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@@FredRed  Paul Simon on his new album has a song "Wristband" which is about being locked out of a arena he was singing at when he went out for a smoke (proverbially) and couldn't get back in.
 
and last year Paul McCartney wasn't recognized by a security guard either

@@FredRed  Paul Simon on his new album has a song "Wristband" which is about being locked out of a arena he was singing at when he went out for a smoke (proverbially) and couldn't get back in.
 
and last year Paul McCartney wasn't recognized by a security guard either

@@FredRed  Paul Simon on his new album has a song "Wristband" which is about being locked out of a arena he was singing at when he went out for a smoke (proverbially) and couldn't get back in.
 
and last year Paul McCartney wasn't recognized by a security guard either

It's funny that Lana has a pass around her neck. I could see her getting locked out of the stage area trying to convince some security guy who she was.

Maybe Jeff Bridges will show up for Ryan and stay for Lana
 
Imagine a picture of Lana with the Dude

not trying to be obnoxious or something but
 
Why compare Lana to the girls, when one should compare her to the boys
as in Elton as in Roy Orbison as in Brian Wilson(Beach Boys) Pet Shop Boys etc.
 
One can over almost 50 years now, recognize an Elton John song, and see the Elton John influences and also see where Elton's music came from (Bach) his lyrics came from Bernie, but it could be said, Elton could have had #1 hits with the phone book as lyrics, and if someone found a time capsule with songs like Philadelphia Freedom, would be hardpressed to understand WTF those lyrics meant (tribute to BJ King)
 
I try not to put down the artists that are directly or indirectly copying or stealing from Lana, however, only so many hours in a day and I would rather spend them with her songs (Lorde's one and only album is great, like a baby sister Lana, but where is the 2nd? How many hands are attempting to put together something that will attempt to sound original and new? We have no idea as it keeps being pushed further and further back.
 
If Lana were vindictive, she should have sued Taylor for outright theft. Taylor should be happy she didn't. I do admire how Taylor did revolutionize the country industry,and forced them to change methology of charting, only to abandon them, move to NYC and keep making money. More power to Taylor I guess.
 
Reminds me of Led Zeppelin they stole Stairway from Randy California, his family long after he died sued, Led Zep won, yet the judge just said Randy's heirs do NOT
have to pay the $800,000 court costs and Zep has to pay. They should have for cheaper given Randy a credit of say 1/2% for royalities this date forward and come out ahead.
 
As a major Kate Bush fan from day one, sorry, but her latest stuff is not the same level Kate. And I had a ticket for her show had I wanted it (all it took was money and a plane ticket),
but when I heard her set list, I said no, I do not want to see it (this is a comment for those that insist Lana should do away with BTD or Paradise songs in her show
and only play newer stuff. HELL NO.  that's all. (and she never toured in America, so I never had a chance to see her, except I was in the audience at SNL live)  And I like both Wuthering Heights recordings
 
Like Lana, Kate as she grew older was able to reign her voice in and control it better than the carefree kid when she started

Democratic and cool in America!
Double cool.
and telling us like me, she is voting for Hillary and would never vote for Trump
 
next time I am in area, will give the Tehran restaurant a try...

that video shows why NOT doing promo much is actually dollar for dollar advantageous
One can make more profit from low key than from mega.
Sure, the record company can buy you a few number one singles, but an artist is so into debt from publicity and videos the companies pay for that 100 million becomes bankrupt for the artist.
 
Whereas a self-made hand held video
 
and Lana getting into actually producing her record and keeping hanger-ons away
 
Record companies have been legendary in their stealing from the 1950s black artists doo-wop groups to the present.
 
Normally, touring and merchandise artists make their money,
and as Lana writes almost all of her material (except for covers) songwriters do very well and the streaming companies have to pay royalties (though not so big, they add up quickly).
 
Lana having her dad who knows the biz is actually a good thing with this.

@@leaked_version post #137
 
Honeymoon was released and suppose to be #1 and on target to be #1 until the surprise drop of Drake's album which was #1 up to a few weeks ago still.
 
So what point are you making?
 
Why would Ocean be compared to Lana anyhow, except that both ended up not being on Brian Wilson's solo album after both were said to be on it.
 
More comparitable and relatable would be sales totals for that Brian Wilson album or perhaps Leonard Cohen's new one coming out in a few weeks/months supposedly
or perhaps compare the totals to (not the most recent when he died, but the one before that David Bowie released
or perhaps the total sales of Elton John's latest
 
Lana is not a commercial artist, nor a commercial star like Drake or Ocean is (one also does not see coffee or bagel runs from Frank Ocean do they?)

@@leaked_version post #137
 
Honeymoon was released and suppose to be #1 and on target to be #1 until the surprise drop of Drake's album which was #1 up to a few weeks ago still.
 
So what point are you making?
 
Why would Ocean be compared to Lana anyhow, except that both ended up not being on Brian Wilson's solo album after both were said to be on it.
 
More comparitable and relatable would be sales totals for that Brian Wilson album or perhaps Leonard Cohen's new one coming out in a few weeks/months supposedly
or perhaps compare the totals to (not the most recent when he died, but the one before that David Bowie released
or perhaps the total sales of Elton John's latest
 
Lana is not a commercial artist, nor a commercial star like Drake or Ocean is (one also does not see coffee or bagel runs from Frank Ocean do they?)

I think all the recent sightings and events are clues to the next chapter "In the life of Elizabeth"
tracks-
 
Green Buildings and Blue Skies(nothing but Blue skies from now on)
Your love has been cancelled
Venice Skating on thin ice
Boutique
You're my American Horror Story
Leonard (Nimoy and DiCap)
(I'll be the hole in your) Western Bagel
Doctor Doctor /Phladelphia meds)
President Hillary Clinton (part 2 of National Anthem, this time Lana is the President and ASAP Rocky is the first gentleman Bill)
and the cover is-
Shopping (Pet Shop Boys) with special guest Neil Tennant
bonus hit- (again cover Pet Shop Boys, with a twist
Rent 2016 (You love me, I pay your rent, and I live rent free in your mind)

@@leaked_version post #137
 
Honeymoon was released and suppose to be #1 and on target to be #1 until the surprise drop of Drake's album which was #1 up to a few weeks ago still.
 
So what point are you making?
 
Why would Ocean be compared to Lana anyhow, except that both ended up not being on Brian Wilson's solo album after both were said to be on it.
 
More comparitable and relatable would be sales totals for that Brian Wilson album or perhaps Leonard Cohen's new one coming out in a few weeks/months supposedly
or perhaps compare the totals to (not the most recent when he died, but the one before that David Bowie released
or perhaps the total sales of Elton John's latest
 
Lana is not a commercial artist, nor a commercial star like Drake or Ocean is (one also does not see coffee or bagel runs from Frank Ocean do they?)

I think all the recent sightings and events are clues to the next chapter "In the life of Elizabeth"
tracks-
 
Green Buildings and Blue Skies(nothing but Blue skies from now on)
Your love has been cancelled
Venice Skating on thin ice
Boutique
You're my American Horror Story
Leonard (Nimoy and DiCap)
(I'll be the hole in your) Western Bagel
Doctor Doctor /Phladelphia meds)
President Hillary Clinton (part 2 of National Anthem, this time Lana is the President and ASAP Rocky is the first gentleman Bill)
and the cover is-
Shopping (Pet Shop Boys) with special guest Neil Tennant
bonus hit- (again cover Pet Shop Boys, with a twist
Rent 2016 (You love me, I pay your rent, and I live rent free in your mind)

I think all the recent sightings and events are clues to the next chapter "In the life of Elizabeth"
tracks-
 
Green Buildings and Blue Skies(nothing but Blue skies from now on)
Your love has been cancelled
Venice Skating on thin ice
Boutique
You're my American Horror Story
Leonard (Nimoy and DiCap)
(I'll be the hole in your) Western Bagel
Doctor Doctor /Phladelphia meds)
President Hillary Clinton (part 2 of National Anthem, this time Lana is the President and ASAP Rocky is the first gentleman Bill)
and the cover is-
Shopping (Pet Shop Boys) with special guest Neil Tennant
bonus hit- (again cover Pet Shop Boys, with a twist
Rent 2016 (You love me, I pay your rent, and I live rent free in your mind)

To all the haters/unbelievers who said/say she wasn't genuine, this proves more than 10 years ago, indeed, Allen Ginsberg and Leonard Cohen and Phil Ochs were major influences
And that the message of the Reservations was inner peace and harmony.
Indeed, Brooklyn Baby rings true.
 
So why do places still today say there is no proof she was May Jailer? The proof always has been there.
 
One day looking forward for a Grateful Dead like 80 CD/LP box set except much larger

100% self produced, with just a little side help. More orchestrations. As much Once Upon a Dream like as possible.
 
Keep on keeping on with the same sound.
 
And keeping sure to make the entire album another concept album like Paradise, Ultraviolence and Honeymoon are.
 
where one needs to listen in the precise order, then listen again.
 
A separate box set on older and live stuff would be great, and some more one off duets that are not on the proper album, and soundtrack stuff.
 
all those examples people are giving above are other artists (to me meh) stuff. Why would anyone want her to copy (meh stuff) from other artists that already has been done. Lana's stuff should be the stuff other (meh) artists copy down the road when their handlers tell them they want something like Trailblazer Lana does, and not their normal (meh) stuff.

The interesting thing about comparing her to a male is how hard it is to do, given the femininity of her music and the fact that males tend to run in packs (bands). Chris Isaak has been brought up frequently, probably mostly on the dimension of his lyrics. On the sedative dimension of singing (which I don't abide by as characterizing LDR's singing) I ran into some vocal Chet Baker recently, and think I see why LDR likes him (if she does), but he seems pretty bland (and sedating) by comparison. LDR is closer to Elton, especially if her unreleased bops are considered. It's also possible to compare LDR albums to certain *male* albums that you are reminded of because of abstract similarities (or just idiosyncracies in your taste and way of grouping albums, idk). This way of doing it at least gives people specific targets to listen to, although this is probably a topic for Lana Thoughts (and I seem to remember a thread on "male LDRs" there, though it wasn't restricted to musical dimensions). As a for instance, for some odd reason I see BTD as similar to Electric Light Orchestra's (Jeff Lynne's) Eldorado. I haven't really studied the lyrics of the latter (which seem to be about some guy carousing about in some fantasy world with some dangers) but the quality/similarity of the melodies within the album on most of his songs suggest the quality/similarity of melodies of BTD, notwithstanding the great difference in male/female perspectives (and the actual type of melodies) on the two albums. As for HM, what male albums are similar to it? That's a tough one. A sad Frank Sinatra (e.g., When no one cares), Elvis Costello's North?,  Steely Dan's Gaucho or Don Fagan's Nightfly?   The plaigarism/influence issue: The reason LDR doesn't sue Taylor or Halsey or anybody else is that she is pretty guilty of the same sort of thing. I mean Big Eyes references Sounds of Silence, Salvatore -- Careless Whisper, Old Money -- Nino Rota, Gramma has a verse melody similar to Ozzy Osbourne's I just want you ....). Some of these are just tonal collisions; some of these are intentional postmodern references. However, sometimes I think she's taking a political position (i.e., Communism) with respect to tonality being a shared and limited resource. I have inferred this from seemingly random acts like choosing Sleepwalk for the intro of her endless summer tour, which sounds remarkably like Born Free, a later song that famously won an Oscar for best song. She also likes Pharell Williams's facebook page on her facebook (and I wish I knew the timing on that). Pharell was successfully litigated for being too close in vibe (#@!) to a Marvin Gaye song (which I think ludicrous), and given the small number of pages LDR likes and the fact that she's never worked with him, I interpret this as a show of support for Pharell's case position. Simply calling a (short) sequence-of-notes-overlap or a vibe similarity plaigarism potentially (and I think actually) "hamstrings" the space of possible pop songs one could write. It also ignores the importance of the unique aspects of a song. However, this is still a difficult issue for me, and my opinion of how much an artist rips off another artist critically depends on the quality of stuff happening outside of the overlap.   Oh and if we're still opining on what the original inspiration of Stairway to Heaven is, check out Gentle Giant's Nothing at All. Some suspect a very heavy influence of that song; however, Led Zeppelin did more than enough to generate a distinct song (and both songs are great).

not trying to be obnoxious or something but
 
Why compare Lana to the girls, when one should compare her to the boys
as in Elton as in Roy Orbison as in Brian Wilson(Beach Boys) Pet Shop Boys etc.
 
One can over almost 50 years now, recognize an Elton John song, and see the Elton John influences and also see where Elton's music came from (Bach) his lyrics came from Bernie, but it could be said, Elton could have had #1 hits with the phone book as lyrics, and if someone found a time capsule with songs like Philadelphia Freedom, would be hardpressed to understand WTF those lyrics meant (tribute to BJ King)
 
I try not to put down the artists that are directly or indirectly copying or stealing from Lana, however, only so many hours in a day and I would rather spend them with her songs (Lorde's one and only album is great, like a baby sister Lana, but where is the 2nd? How many hands are attempting to put together something that will attempt to sound original and new? We have no idea as it keeps being pushed further and further back.
 
If Lana were vindictive, she should have sued Taylor for outright theft. Taylor should be happy she didn't. I do admire how Taylor did revolutionize the country industry,and forced them to change methology of charting, only to abandon them, move to NYC and keep making money. More power to Taylor I guess.
 
Reminds me of Led Zeppelin they stole Stairway from Randy California, his family long after he died sued, Led Zep won, yet the judge just said Randy's heirs do NOT
have to pay the $800,000 court costs and Zep has to pay. They should have for cheaper given Randy a credit of say 1/2% for royalities this date forward and come out ahead.
 
As a major Kate Bush fan from day one, sorry, but her latest stuff is not the same level Kate. And I had a ticket for her show had I wanted it (all it took was money and a plane ticket),
but when I heard her set list, I said no, I do not want to see it (this is a comment for those that insist Lana should do away with BTD or Paradise songs in her show
and only play newer stuff. HELL NO.  that's all. (and she never toured in America, so I never had a chance to see her, except I was in the audience at SNL live)  And I like both Wuthering Heights recordings
 
Like Lana, Kate as she grew older was able to reign her voice in and control it better than the carefree kid when she started

UV's last song (IMHO) is "Is this happiness" generally considered to be placed AFTER the bonus songs
and a song so down that it is the actual segue between UV and Honeymoon, the bridge so to say
 
Honeymoon continues and without Honeymoon, and it's epic battle between Lana and Elizabeth how would anyone know
both came out of Honeymoon agreeing to continue onward to the next chapter
 
There is no way whatsoever, that there could be any next chapter without Honeymoon
 
(as one shall see soon as we all hear the next stuff).
 
And a year or so from now, haters of Honeymoon will be saying how great Honeymoon is and why can't (the chapter at that time be half as good)
 
That's my opinion from an adult that agrees with Lana that one doesn't need to get there fast. (put on American and play it loud)

UV's last song (IMHO) is "Is this happiness" generally considered to be placed AFTER the bonus songs
and a song so down that it is the actual segue between UV and Honeymoon, the bridge so to say
 
Honeymoon continues and without Honeymoon, and it's epic battle between Lana and Elizabeth how would anyone know
both came out of Honeymoon agreeing to continue onward to the next chapter
 
There is no way whatsoever, that there could be any next chapter without Honeymoon
 
(as one shall see soon as we all hear the next stuff).
 
And a year or so from now, haters of Honeymoon will be saying how great Honeymoon is and why can't (the chapter at that time be half as good)
 
That's my opinion from an adult that agrees with Lana that one doesn't need to get there fast. (put on American and play it loud)

UV's last song (IMHO) is "Is this happiness" generally considered to be placed AFTER the bonus songs
and a song so down that it is the actual segue between UV and Honeymoon, the bridge so to say
 
Honeymoon continues and without Honeymoon, and it's epic battle between Lana and Elizabeth how would anyone know
both came out of Honeymoon agreeing to continue onward to the next chapter
 
There is no way whatsoever, that there could be any next chapter without Honeymoon
 
(as one shall see soon as we all hear the next stuff).
 
And a year or so from now, haters of Honeymoon will be saying how great Honeymoon is and why can't (the chapter at that time be half as good)
 
That's my opinion from an adult that agrees with Lana that one doesn't need to get there fast. (put on American and play it loud)

Really disappointed, but if she doesn't feel comfortable with it, for whatever reason, it is what it is.

The truth of the matter is,as Graham stated, pro-shot shows can sometimes be owned by third parties and therefore can sometimes be released outside of Lana's label. IDK if it will happen with this show in particular or any show at all for that matter. Especially while she's on Interscope

Honestly we'd be more likely to geta professional relase of her performance in Montreux. TONS of release this and it's a pretty big deal tbh. Really praying because it's our best best at this point.

OMFG!!!
 
Did a poster actually say being in the crush of people in the front is like being in a train goin to the Auschwitz death camp among others that 6 million Jews were killed in?
 
give me a fucking break.

@@gloomyharlow
Just for comparison
Meaghan Trainor has had 3 #1s and a 4th song that hit #3 in the USA
Her first album opened 268,000
Her latest album 117,000
 
that is with 3 of the most played songs, in the last few weeks
 
Record sales are not what they used to be
 
and of course, one should never compare an artiste like Lana with a commercial hitmaker singing novelty songs and such as Meaghan
 
I myself would rather listen to Honeymoon thousands of times than Meaghan twice.

@@gloomyharlow
Just for comparison
Meaghan Trainor has had 3 #1s and a 4th song that hit #3 in the USA
Her first album opened 268,000
Her latest album 117,000
 
that is with 3 of the most played songs, in the last few weeks
 
Record sales are not what they used to be
 
and of course, one should never compare an artiste like Lana with a commercial hitmaker singing novelty songs and such as Meaghan
 
I myself would rather listen to Honeymoon thousands of times than Meaghan twice.