Does Lana hate Honeymoon?

[Manson 1,142]

I'm pretty sure she doesn't, but the thread title basically sums up a thought that comes to me from time to time.

I really love Honeymoon and even though it's always more fascinating if an album doesn't get a lot of visuals and promotion to keep it super special and up to everyone's own fantasy, I've always found it heartbreaking to not hear most of the songs performed live.

Is there any confirmed information or hints from Lana herself why Honeymoon has been treated the way it does? When people asked her to sing some songs from Honeymoon at the show she just replied with "Oh, that one..." and ignored it.

 

Even the tiniest bits that we got, with her performing "High By The Beach", "Music To Watch Boys To", "Terrence Loves You" and "Freak" at some part during the different festival and tour sets, disappeared quickly.

[ilovetati 15,297]

She said she recognizes it was a very personal vanity project so she doesn't play it live much.

[Manson 1,142]

She said she recognizes it was a very personal vanity project so she doesn't play it live much.

And what is a vanity project exactly? 

[cherryblossoms 10,405]

Lmao

 

And what is a vanity project exactly?

I think it basically means the label let her have free reign over the tracks and the sound of the album. There were no set expectations for the album to produce a charting single, to be somewhat radio friendly, etc.

[Manson 1,142]

Lmao

 

 

I think it basically means the label let her have free reign over the tracks and the sound of the album. There were no set expectations for the album to produce a charting single, to be somewhat radio friendly, etc.

 

Makes sense, but how is that a reason NOT to perform the music? The only reason could be that she thinks that the music turned out shit, but I'm sure she doesn't think that.

[softcore babyface 4,375]

no. I think she loves it honestly.  I think honeymoon is like her baby ( I mean all of her albums are like that, but I think honeymoon especially), and that's why she chose to work with only two producers. I think all of her albums are like that besides BtD and LfL.

[Dominikx4 25,399]

No she doesnt. She played HBTB, Salvatore, TLY, chose Honeymoon over Love etc.

[Manson 1,142]

no. I think she loves it honestly.  I think honeymoon is like her baby ( I mean all of her albums are like that, but I think honeymoon especially), and that's why she chose to work with only two producers. I think all of her albums are like that besides BtD and LfL.

 

I hope she does, but honestly I don't think it's more special than the rest of her albums to her because she would treat the material differently performance wise.

[Blue Rev 3,015]

Of course not    It's probably her favourite

 

She's said herself it was a vanity project and it's very personal to her, which might make it hard to sing the songs live. Also the songs seem to be harder to translate into a live setting because of their minimalism (MTWBT and HBTB aren't great live at all)

[Masochism 15,400]

she even made an instagram account called honeymoon, i think she likes it 

[Cherry on Top 395]

Maybe it is because she thinks people don't appreciate that album as much as the others. Like, I've always seen people on here slandering the true masterpiece Honeymoon is. I personally think she loves the album but wants to play it safely when it comes to her shows. It's a pity because I'd love to hear more of those songs played live.

[Off To The Races 2010 demo pls 19,335]

she even made an instagram account called honeymoon, i think she likes it

 

And the bio says "Honeymoon is alive and breathing" LMAO

[cashcomesquick 5,381]

It's like her first born child.

[softcore babyface 4,375]

I hope she does, but honestly I don't think it's more special than the rest of her albums to her because she would treat the material differently performance wise.

 

eh...Honeymoon is really personal and has some dark moments on it. I think if she hated it she wouldn't have made an instagram for it. She worked really closely with Rick, Chuck, Neil, and even Francesco, who are/were all very close to her even outside of music and art. I think it's just personal.

[Manson 1,142]

Of course not    It's probably her favourite

 

She's said herself it was a vanity project and it's very personal to her, which might make it hard to sing the songs live. Also the songs seem to be harder to translate into a live setting because of their minimalism (MTWBT and HBTB aren't great live at all)

 

That was one of the thoughts I had when thinking why I always got the impression she didn't like it in the end. Wasn't it that she hard time with her guy? Every time she feels blue in her life her hair has been darker and that was the case during HM era. And also she gained a little weight. So maybe there was heartbreak involved?

[queenbitchpro 1,405]

Honeymoon doesn't follow her trademark sound. People don't get as hyped to hear her perform those songs as they do from the other records. She probably bases her setlist on what she thinks the fans want to hear, and she obviously knows that Honeymoon was her least recognized album and that the audience expects her more known songs. I think she loves the album and like others have said, it's very personal to her. When she performs TLY you can see how emotional she gets. I certainly don't think she's unhappy with that album. If she didn't like it, she wouldn't have released it.

[lmdr 10,651]

I think it’s her favorite, she even said it live on this tour, but I don’t remember which date but she did

[Manson 1,142]

eh...Honeymoon is really personal and has some dark moments on it. I think if she hated it she wouldn't have made an instagram for it. She worked really closely with Rick, Chuck, Neil, and even Francesco, who are/were all very close to her even outside of music and art. I think it's just personal.

 

Honeymoon doesn't follow her trademark sound. People don't get as hyped to hear her perform those songs as they do from the other records. She probably bases her setlist on what she thinks the fans want to hear, and she obviously knows that Honeymoon was her least recognized album and that the audience expects her more known songs. I think she loves the album and like others have said, it's very personal to her. When she performs TLY you can see how emotional she gets. I certainly don't think she's unhappy with that album. If she didn't like it, she wouldn't have released it.

 

So good to hear that! It would be amazing if it really means so much to her on a personal level because it means a lot to me.

I think it’s her favorite, she even said it live on this tour, but I don’t remember which date but she did

 

I'd love to hear that out of her mouth 

[pawn shop blues 2,346]

I'm sure she loves it as much as her other records, if not more, but it's just harder to perform live. The songs are longer, slower, and require a lot of vocal support to be able to carry out the notes, since a lot of the phrases are really drawn out. It's also pretty heavy in reverb and atmosphere, which can require a lot of adjusting to get it to play right for a larger audience.

Also, considering she started it right after Ultra, she was probably still in a dark place and maybe doesn't want to revisit that too much, especially if she's including Ultra songs on the setlist. 

[TROPICUM 6,407]

lol no. I’m sure she loves it! It’s her most personal record to date. It wasn’t exactly made for the public but for her, that’s why she called it a ‘vanity project’.

 

+ as lmdr said, in some show of the tour she said it was her favorite.