Lanaparadiserey 24,608 Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM 6 minutes ago, RIP ivory almond said: idgaf what Ethel or Melanie drew/released when they were 19, I listen to both of them because I appreciate the art they’re releasing today even with the rape allegations against Melanie, I still listen to her bc her music is good and lowkey that’s all I care abt when it comes to singers im not invested in like Lana You 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 205,954 Posted yesterday at 01:52 AM @Coloringbooks like i had mentioned before in my previous post... there's really no definitive way to judge whether or not the person in her drawing is meant to be underage or not, I PERSONALLY see it more as a young adult man, while, at the same time, i can see how it could be interpreted as somebody young, but, like i had also previously mentioned, it's heavily stylized, and not anatomically-incorrect, it's not a hyper-realistic drawing which is completely true to life, so it feels futile to try to dissect whether or not it's supposed to depict somebody under or over the age of 18, only hayden could know what it's intended to be i'm sure we can all agree the drawing is very weird, and perhaps wasn't right to share, but fighting over it isn't productive or going to lead anywhere, if somebody finds out about an artist's controversies and decides they no longer want to support them, that's fine, but going into the artist's designated thread which will be visited and posted in by fans and bringing up controversies, or trying to start controversies is really just asking for arguments, disagreements, and discourse which isn't needed, i don't think there's anything wrong with discussing controversies when they come up, but the only times we've discussed controversies surrounding her recently was when people who didn't like her randomly came in and brought something up, and some of the things which were deemed controversial, or, reasons to not like her were pretty asinine, especially in comparison to what other artists have done, including... editing her own wikipedia page, being pro-life when she was 14, 12 years ago, and making some dumb tweet Quote I apologise for jumping into this thread since its a fan space and most Ethel fans are going to justify her behaviour anyway, but I just felt the urge to speak and point out what I view as hypocrisy. of course her fans are going to try and justify her... they're her fans, although not everyone here has blindly defended her and claimed that the drawing was a-okay and not weird at all, at least, i didn't, anyone could easily go into the melanie martinez thread, point out her rape allegations, and say the exact same thing you did 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
traleon 5 Posted yesterday at 06:25 AM 5 hours ago, Lindsay Lohan said: This thread is so funny to assume people were actively looking for "chibi/kawaii character torture" maybe you're just a freak idk lol literally nobody said that hon 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlottexseax 8,186 Posted yesterday at 11:25 AM ive been listening to perverts and it's just good honestly! i get why some people might not be into it at first cause it's definitely not as accessible as preachers daughter (which IMO is as pop as it gets... despite what people might think) but it's a very good project. i wish she actually followed through with the initial concepts though? like have each song represent a perversion it would have been nice 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 73,085 Posted yesterday at 04:51 PM So many people just want to be mad and offended and upset by everything. Does it give your life more of a purpose? Are you that unhappy? Please go find a hobby, or a therapist.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brood X 2,489 Posted yesterday at 05:02 PM 5 hours ago, Charlottexseax said: i wish she actually followed through with the initial concepts though? like have each song represent a perversion it would have been nice agreed! i hope she continues releasing the scrapped concepts songs to soundcloud like she's been doing 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyjimmycocoapuff 7,881 Posted yesterday at 05:04 PM anyways wrestling in dirt pits is the best song ever, let's talk about that 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disx 94 Posted yesterday at 06:28 PM 1 hour ago, jimmyjimmycocoapuff said: anyways wrestling in dirt pits is the best song ever, let's talk about that truly one of her best ugh 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ethel Cain 9,217 Posted yesterday at 07:27 PM Ok but ad nauseam.. and wellwater ugh 0 Quote last.fm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrisonissocat 0 Posted 22 hours ago Does anyone know a definitive date that Sex Change was released on her soundcloud? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mio 19 Posted 21 hours ago call me crazy but i'm like 90% sure traleon is hayden cus they type the exact same way she does 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dxughterofcxin 31 Posted 20 hours ago 37 minutes ago, mio said: call me crazy but i'm like 90% sure traleon is hayden cus they type the exact same way she does you might be crazy babe 1 Quote please don't love how I need you and know that one day, you and I could be ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dxughterofcxin 31 Posted 20 hours ago for some reason starvation creeps me out far more than ptolomea ever has. something about the imagery in my mind when listening to it makes me feel sick to my stomach, and that is an experience i've felt with few songs. maybe it's my own mind making it more creepy, but I think it's a beautiful and haunting song, and one of my faves. very yellowjackets core 0 Quote please don't love how I need you and know that one day, you and I could be ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baddisease 18,361 Posted 20 hours ago I hope this is okay to post but: That drawing is of an adult and most likely her. Let her react to her trauma how she wants. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mio 19 Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, dxughterofcxin said: you might be crazy babe no cus she types exactly like her like hear me out.. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brood X 2,489 Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, mio said: call me crazy but i'm like 90% sure traleon is hayden cus they type the exact same way she does the way i thought that for like 5 seconds before dismissing the thought... it wouldnt be out of character for hayden tbh 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inthezodiac 285 Posted 15 hours ago each time that i think of you, i barricade the room, one more wound. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dxughterofcxin 31 Posted 9 hours ago can we all manifest another Ethel Cain tour where hayden comes to all our towns </3 she has never come to mine and it's a NEED 2 Quote please don't love how I need you and know that one day, you and I could be ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunbather Moonchaser 2,900 Posted 9 hours ago What drawing are yall talking about 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloringbooks 14,273 Posted 9 hours ago 12 hours ago, mio said: call me crazy but i'm like 90% sure traleon is hayden cus they type the exact same way she does Umm I just looked at this account and all 4 of their posts are defending Ethel under the guise of being a stan. I hope not for her sake, that would be embarrassing if true. "The altar boy priest torture porn can't be a child because children don't wear earrings, this was a huge trend in the 2010s" is an interesting defence 6 minutes ago, Sunbather Moonchaser said: What drawing are yall talking about It's a few pages back 0 Quote She's killing you so fast, but with a golden knife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites