320kbps 3,624 Posted May 17, 2020 idk why there's a charli vs marina who's better thing going on but honestly i feel like you can't really compare them as they're 2 different subgenres of pop but that's just me 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godsmonster 14,217 Posted May 18, 2020 now do we all have mixed feelings about the outtakes to L+F? I feel like, lyrically, The Art of Letting Go is a lot stronger than most of the album tbh and There's Nothing Wrong With You is better than EYL Please Don't Call Me is...cute Is It Worth It is different 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder Revenant 20,942 Posted May 18, 2020 Okay you know I love you and usually agree with pretty much everything you post, but... have you listened to her new album? Or anything she's released since Vroom Vroom, really? Obviously it's a matter of preference whether one enjoys that type of pop, but I definitely wouldn't call it mainstream or basic; that's a description that's reserved for Clean Bandit and certain acts associated with them. Well maybe it's not mainstream-basic considering the current charts, that's true. But it's definitly not pushing any boundaries, it's neither innovative nor experimental and does not go beyond the depth of a Brtiney Spears song. If one likes this kind of music is a pure question of personal taste, but my point was that Charli - while probably not being the most striking artist out there - is giving her audience the kind of music they want while not trying to cheat with the "packaging" and that's why she gets good reviews. Marina on the other hand is taking herself waaaaaaaay too serious while constantly watering down her music with every album 3 Quote Just do it. Just do it - don't wait! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vrtvie 2,260 Posted May 18, 2020 Because Marina tried to be fake deep while barely scratching the surface and the production was incredibly basic on Love+Fear. People didn't have a problem when she sang those topics on previous albums in a clever way over interesting production. Meanwhile Charli does not pretend to be someone she is not and embraces herself. Yes, that is exactly true and I know it, but at the same time I feel kinda sorry for Marina. The fact she said that Love+Fear concept was created at the last minute makes me wonder if it was not label or her manager who told her that she needed to make it more 'sophisticated', because otherwise it wouldn't sell so well. However, what I meant people had problems in previous albums too -- many people didn't like Electra Heart because they expected TFJ 2.0 (especially British critics) and so did people not like FROOT. And I did not mean to attack Charli, it's just there's some weird aura with Marina's discography. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKASAKA SAWAYAMA 7,882 Posted May 18, 2020 electric body is on crack again 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder Revenant 20,942 Posted May 18, 2020 electric body is on crack again Being rude in nonmentions. Akasaka pathetic 1 Quote Just do it. Just do it - don't wait! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HEARTCORE 18,970 Posted May 18, 2020 Yes, that is exactly true and I know it, but at the same time I feel kinda sorry for Marina. The fact she said that Love+Fear concept was created at the last minute makes me wonder if it was not label or her manager who told her that she needed to make it more 'sophisticated', because otherwise it wouldn't sell so well. However, what I meant people had problems in previous albums too -- many people didn't like Electra Heart because they expected TFJ 2.0 (especially British critics) and so did people not like FROOT. And I did not mean to attack Charli, it's just there's some weird aura with Marina's discography. I dunno, I don't think it was the label. She's always had difficulties admitting that she is pop. For TFJ, she made it clear that she was against the pop machine. Despite being pop for EH, she talked about how it was all in jest/ironic. For FROOT, she kept mentioning how rare it was for someone in pop to write all their own stuff, and how anti-EH she was. I strongly feel that the pop psychology perspective she had for L&F was yet another way for her to feel comfortable doing pop. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKASAKA SAWAYAMA 7,882 Posted May 18, 2020 Being rude in nonmentions. Akasaka pathetic i'm just trolling like u <3 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YUNGATA 14,955 Posted May 18, 2020 How we all doing? Playing nice? 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HEARTCORE 18,970 Posted May 18, 2020 How we all doing? Playing nice? Of course mom 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YUNGATA 14,955 Posted May 18, 2020 Of course mom That's what I like to hear 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vrtvie 2,260 Posted May 18, 2020 I dunno, I don't think it was the label. She's always had difficulties admitting that she is pop. For TFJ, she made it clear that she was against the pop machine. Despite being pop for EH, she talked about how it was all in jest/ironic. For FROOT, she kept mentioning how rare it was for someone in pop to write all their own stuff, and how anti-EH she was. I strongly feel that the pop psychology perspective she had for L&F was yet another way for her to feel comfortable doing pop. You're right, but I guess we'll never know for sure. The previous concept of Aquamarina actually had no any "meaning" apart from... water? And personally I would've found it more interesting. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tulips 3,731 Posted May 18, 2020 You're right, but I guess we'll never know for sure. The previous concept of Aquamarina actually had no any "meaning" apart from... water? And personally I would've found it more interesting. I don't think that was ever an album concept.. just a rumour I believe 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vrtvie 2,260 Posted May 18, 2020 I don't think that was ever an album concept.. just a rumour I believe She used Aquamarina on her personal Facebook + later she changed her name to Aquamarina on Instagram + the scrapped Handmade Heaven single/album artwork + both Superstar videos (I myself like to interpret water in Superstar as drowning in love). 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tulips 3,731 Posted May 18, 2020 She used Aquamarina on her personal Facebook + later she changed her name to Aquamarina on Instagram + the scrapped Handmade Heaven single/album artwork + both Superstar videos (I myself like to interpret water in Superstar as drowning in love). The Handmade Heaven covers & the Superstar visuals are from when the album was called Handmade Heaven, not Aquamarina. I heard that her using Aquamarina on social medias was based off some fanart, not an album concept. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vrtvie 2,260 Posted May 18, 2020 The Handmade Heaven covers & the Superstar visuals are from when the album was called Handmade Heaven, not Aquamarina. I heard that her using Aquamarina on social medias was based off some fanart, not an album concept. Whatever it was called, the theme was aquatic. These all dots must be connected. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKASAKA SAWAYAMA 7,882 Posted May 18, 2020 she was using aquamarina handle since 2013 for her facebook 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5adboy 5,015 Posted May 18, 2020 Marina's albums get always criticized no matter what :/ When Electra Heart came out people didn't like it because it was 'overproduced' and now (funny) it's a fan-favorite. Then with FROOT fans were saying it sounded too much like a group band etc. while it's her highest ranked album on metacritic. L+F it's not that bad, but not her best work forsure. She's already working on her 5th album I can't wait "Purge the Poison" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRqlv2i_aXg "Pink Convertible" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SDyGCpNbOk&t 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veinsineon 76,610 Posted May 18, 2020 MATD5 will win 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Off To The Races 2010 demo pls 19,335 Posted May 18, 2020 I want her next album to get acclaim from critics 0 Quote "ser bella me dio privilegios, pero ser astuta me dio poder" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites