Sitar 22,214 Posted October 30, 2016 One of the reasons so many Monsters started bandwagoning Lana is actually because Gags was flopping left and right after a few months with BTW. You didn't have to tell us that you're a bitter ex-stan sis, we know 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
National Anthem 9,904 Posted October 30, 2016 It is actually. Look up how bad the album is doing in Europe. Tracking week has just started and she is out of the Top10 in the UK, Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium. She will have a good drop next week in the US, too. She still has a big fanbase who will buy her shit no matter what, and she will sell quickly well enough, but then drop from the face of the earth. One of the reasons so many Monsters started bandwagoning Lana is actually because Gags was flopping left and right after a few months with BTW. AP sold 80 % of what it had sold overall in the US within 2 months. This album will be no different. any "monsters" who left because of sales are a good riddance in my book. in fact, any fan of an artist who finds it a good reason to drop them because of sales was never really a fan of the artistry or music anyway. what you say is so ridiculous and asinine. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewby 9,246 Posted October 30, 2016 any "monsters" who left because of sales are a good riddance in my book. in fact, any fan of an artist who finds it a good reason to drop them because of sales was never really a fan of the artistry or music anyway. what you say is so ridiculous and asinine. It always has been though 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted October 30, 2016 You didn't have to tell us that you're a bitter ex-stan sis, we know I am not actually. The way how you guys always think that everybody must be a fan or ex-fan. Gaga ain't that great. The only thing I have noticed is that there are so many Gaga / Lana hybrids. I was playing nice with the Liddos at the beginning. Not anymore though. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limelight 4,708 Posted October 30, 2016 I just can't understand how a "flopping" artist can get so many people this pressed. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sitar 22,214 Posted October 30, 2016 I am not actually. The way how you guys always think that everybody must be a fan or ex-fan. Gaga ain't that great. The only thing I have noticed is that there are so many Gaga / Lana hybrids. I was playing nice with the Liddos at the beginning. Not anymore though. Go outside you disaster 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted October 30, 2016 Go outside you disaster And what are you? You stan Gaga ffs. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted October 30, 2016 any "monsters" who left because of sales are a good riddance in my book. in fact, any fan of an artist who finds it a good reason to drop them because of sales was never really a fan of the artistry or music anyway. what you say is so ridiculous and asinine. Have you actually watched the Anthony Fantano review of Joanne? I am actually not a fan of his in any shape or form, but he brings up a valid point. On Joanne she is colaborating with artists like Josh Homme, Beck and Florence and she never actually delivers lyrics that go deep enough. She tries to break into some territory where she can not deliver. I think that is one of the reasons many have left.There ain't much under the surface and her pretentiousness. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted October 30, 2016 I fell the same way about you, too. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sitar 22,214 Posted October 30, 2016 And what are you? I fell the same way about you, too. The shade is a little too thick over here 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HEARTCORE 18,971 Posted October 31, 2016 Hope Gagz put on a condom cause she's got so many haters choking on her dick 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted October 31, 2016 The shade is a little too thick over here I have zero trouble calling you the same what you are calling me. If you think that it is the way you can talk to be as a mod, fine, but I honestly don't give a damn responding in the way I do, 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
National Anthem 9,904 Posted October 31, 2016 Have you actually watched the Anthony Fantano review of Joanne? I am actually not a fan of his in any shape or form, but he brings up a valid point. On Joanne she is colaborating with artists like Josh Homme, Beck and Florence and she never actually delivers lyrics that go deep enough. She tries to break into some territory where she can not deliver. I think that is one of the reasons many have left.There ain't much under the surface and her pretentiousness. See, that's what everyone misunderstands though. Gaga isn't trying to break into any "territory". She is very clear on the fact that this album isn't trying to be derivative of anything that influenced her, but rather IT IS HER. She set out to make the album that Joanne is, and that's that. She may have disappointed you, but she didn't fall short of anything she tried to accomplish. Gaga made exactly the album she wanted. Even though this "territory" she's in isn't close enough to what you think she should be in or deep enough to you, it's exactly her own territory that she created in the process of Joanne and exactly where she wants to be. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leaked_version 10,499 Posted October 31, 2016 See, that's what everyone misunderstands though. Gaga isn't trying to break into any "territory". She is very clear on the fact that this album isn't trying to be derivative of anything that influenced her, but rather IT IS HER. She set out to make the album that Joanne is, and that's that. She may have disappointed you, but she didn't fall short of anything she tried to accomplish. Gaga made exactly the album she wanted. Even though this "territory" she's in isn't close enough to what you think she should be in or deep enough to you, it's exactly her own territory that she created in the process of Joanne and exactly where she wants to be. And you know, it's fine she is making the records she wants to make. However, she did collab with some amazing people and nothing on the album offers some insight that is either deeply personal or interesting in pop cultural context. The last song is apparently about Trayvon Martin, but it falls so short about being an actual statement. It's just too whiny. No depth, nothing provocative, nothing that makes you think. This is however what Gaga has been doing ever since BTW. She is not like one of her biggest inspirations (Madonna or Bowie) sharp as a knife, she just bursts into tears, crying over her own words. And that's all fine if you enjoy this sort of entertainment. I am done with this discussion anyway. Those who enjoy the album do it, I just gave my few cents to it, that her devoted fans don't care about anyway. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trash Magic 28,425 Posted October 31, 2016 Just let her fans enjoy this one 7 Quote "It's 2011, and we should all be aware of exactly how fast technology is developing" - Lana Del Rey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naachoboy 7,993 Posted October 31, 2016 Leaked gtfo. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constantine 4,074 Posted October 31, 2016 Just let her fans enjoy this one You're so mature. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coney Island King 26,087 Posted October 31, 2016 Anyone who leaves due to poor sales is an idiot. In saying that though, the sales for this album outside of America have not been good. And i wouldnt get too cocky about first week sales anyway, she has enough of a fanbase for a #1 debut, thats not a shock to anyone, it doesnt mean the album wont to #186 by the end of the month. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
National Anthem 9,904 Posted November 1, 2016 I almost never listen to it anymore but I feel the need to say that ARTPOP is still really great. People throw shade towards that record way too much. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites