Creyk 11,699 Posted February 6, 2015 Barrie. but he made her miserable 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LittleFool 1,912 Posted February 6, 2015 I know that a lot of uncomfortable things are said here and on like every other site ever that mentions Lana, but if I saw a comprehensive list of my exes I would be mortified lmao 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarcrashBandicoot 760 Posted February 6, 2015 i have to say that "confirmation" by him felt weird and incomplete. i remember the facebook post denying they dated and claiming they met in jan 2014. there was a comment there alleging that at lana's show he had said they'd known each other for several years. i also remember some other statement he made where he eluded to maybe being able to tell the truth one day? i don't quite remember, but i do remember it struck me as odd. i'm not trying to be a deluded stan but i really do think there's more to it than what he's letting on. Maybe for publicity? That way Lana doesn't have more stans asking "What happened with Jimmy!?" Because you know those kind of people exists... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarcrashBandicoot 760 Posted February 6, 2015 I didn't know about FIMH. I'll have to look his statements up, that's cray. Thanks for the tip! When you say rocky past, what do you mean? Where can I look this up? I don't know much about Gnecco, honestly; most of what I know comes from your Lanalysis post actually *hides under covers* And when you say "going on tour with her," what tour is this referring to? I know he opened for her once, but I looked it up and only got stuff about 2014. I don't know her tour stuff very well, so maybe it's just recent results covering old ones. The instagram post did not deny knowing her prefame. He said: "I met Lana in January of 2014." Meeting someone does not entail "encountering someone for the very first time." Meet (heading) Of individuals: to make personal contact. To come face to face with by accident; to encounter. [quotations ▼] Fancy meeting you here! Guess who I met at the supermarket today? To come face to face with someone by arrangement. [quotations ▼] Let's meet at the station at 9 o'clock. Shall we meet at 8 p.m in our favorite chatroom? And to avoid confusion... are we talking about the same post? I didn't know there was more than one Instagram post. "I met Lana in January 2014. The Jim she sings about is Jim Bean." He's saying he met with her and she told him she was singing about alcohol. I can get why people think he's saying this is when they first met, but I don't think that's what he meant at all. This is a Facebook post, not from Instagram, but it's still relevant because he says "on the night we met in January of 2014." I guess this photo is to prove that he never abused her because she wouldn't take a photo with him all smiley if he hit her and it felt like a kiss? I'll look up Jimmy stuff when I have time. He does sound oddly inconsistent about his relationship with Lana - "she's a crazy stalker but I wrote this song about her but we had a rocky relationship but thanks for letting me tour with you but we never dated." Out of curiosity, is he still your favorite Lana mystery? But how does a bottle of Jim Bean have a white Corvette? Or a blue Chevy Nova? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthem 1,558 Posted February 6, 2015 I know that a lot of uncomfortable things are said here and on like every other site ever that mentions Lana, but if I saw a comprehensive list of my exes I would be mortified lmao I'm not a fan of this thread, I think its creepy tbh. Who Lana dates is up to her and if she isn't with someone its because it was better for her. 5 Quote Goddesses don't speak in whispers. They scream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valentino 885 Posted February 7, 2015 But how does a bottle of Jim Bean have a white Corvette? Or a blue Chevy Nova? Jim in Ultraviolence, not every Lana song. I don't know if I trust that explanation, but Lana has talked about singing to alcohol before, so it's not totally random. One thing I'm confident about is that UV is not about Jimmy. I don't know about HDB, but UV is not about him. it's a different Jim - it's not exactly an uncommon name, after all. Poor Jimmy, Lana writes a song and her "fans" attack him for domestic abuse. The Mr. Campbell effect in full (ultraviolent ) swing. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarcrashBandicoot 760 Posted February 7, 2015 Jim in Ultraviolence, not every Lana song. I don't know if I trust that explanation, but Lana has talked about singing to alcohol before, so it's not totally random. One thing I'm confident about is that UV is not about Jimmy. I don't know about HDB, but UV is not about him. it's a different Jim - it's not exactly an uncommon name, after all. Poor Jimmy, Lana writes a song and her "fans" attack him for domestic abuse. The Mr. Campbell effect in full (ultraviolent ) swing. Well we know that about UV, it's not Jimmy Gnecco, but I mean I wonder what other songs she's talking about alcohol in that isn't said or explained. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intriguing Penguin 867 Posted February 7, 2015 Jaime King. 18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwasborntodie 306 Posted February 7, 2015 It's not something I've ever really thought about. I don't know how these men made Lana feel or the ins and out of these relationships. I guess I just wanna see Lana with someone who makes her feel complete. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabyTonight 77 Posted February 7, 2015 Barrie... It seems like he made her happy and she did say he changed her a lot. I wish she would have stayed with him. I still have hope they'll end up together. Still convinced Ride + Flipside are about him tbh Well we know that about UV, it's not Jimmy Gnecco, but I mean I wonder what other songs she's talking about alcohol in that isn't said or explained. Ride! Alcohol + drugs Pretty obvious I know! Good question though.. I wonder too. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabyTonight 77 Posted February 7, 2015 Jim in Ultraviolence, not every Lana song. I don't know if I trust that explanation, but Lana has talked about singing to alcohol before, so it's not totally random. One thing I'm confident about is that UV is not about Jimmy. I don't know about HDB, but UV is not about him. it's a different Jim - it's not exactly an uncommon name, after all. Poor Jimmy, Lana writes a song and her "fans" attack him for domestic abuse. The Mr. Campbell effect in full (ultraviolent ) swing. Didn't Jimmy lie tho? In the IG comment he said he met Lana in Jan. 2014 which was obviously a lie... I don't know if he would have ever hit her though. Then again the hit me and felt like a kiss lyric may just be referencing the actual song? Just like in FK with "Chic a Cherry Cola lime" 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valentino 885 Posted February 7, 2015 Didn't Jimmy lie tho? In the IG comment he said he met Lana in Jan. 2014 which was obviously a lie... I don't know if he would have ever hit her though. Then again the hit me and felt like a kiss lyric may just be referencing the actual song? Just like in FK with "Chic a Cherry Cola lime" "meet" doesn't just mean "encounter for the first time." When you say "guess who I met at the market today - it was Chris!" you're not saying this is the first time you saw Chris. When you say "let's meet at 10," you're not saying "let us encounter each other for the first time at 10 o clock." When you say "I saw my friends last week; we met at the Chateau Marmont," you're saying "my friends and I got together last week at the Chateau Marmont." Jimmy said "I met her in January of 2014." That usage would not be inconsistent with any of the examples I mentioned above. He never denied knowing her before, and I'm not sure why that's the interpretation people are jumping to. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longtimeman 8,921 Posted February 7, 2015 "meet" doesn't just mean "encounter for the first time." When you say "guess who I met at the market today - it was Chris!" you're not saying this is the first time you saw Chris. When you say "let's meet at 10," you're not saying "let us encounter each other for the first time at 10 o clock." When you say "I saw my friends last week; we met at the Chateau Marmont," you're saying "my friends and I got together last week at the Chateau Marmont." Jimmy said "I met her in January of 2014." That usage would not be inconsistent with any of the examples I mentioned above. He never denied knowing her before, and I'm not sure why that's the interpretation people are jumping to. You wouldn't say "(here's a photo of) the night that we met" unless you meant for the first time. 'Met' would never be used to mean "here's this night we met up for drinks" in this way unless it was specified. He may have meant something like "this was the first night we really hung out together", so although they might have 'met' before then, maybe that was the night they became friends. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwasborntodie 306 Posted February 8, 2015 You wouldn't say "(here's a photo of) the night that we met" unless you meant for the first time. 'Met' would never be used to mean "here's this night we met up for drinks" in this way unless it was specified. He may have meant something like "this was the first night we really hung out together", so although they might have 'met' before then, maybe that was the night they became friends. Yes I think you're right here. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BabyTonight 77 Posted February 8, 2015 "meet" doesn't just mean "encounter for the first time." When you say "guess who I met at the market today - it was Chris!" you're not saying this is the first time you saw Chris. When you say "let's meet at 10," you're not saying "let us encounter each other for the first time at 10 o clock." When you say "I saw my friends last week; we met at the Chateau Marmont," you're saying "my friends and I got together last week at the Chateau Marmont." Jimmy said "I met her in January of 2014." That usage would not be inconsistent with any of the examples I mentioned above. He never denied knowing her before, and I'm not sure why that's the interpretation people are jumping to. Just seems shady! And her songs are kind of evidence they had SOME type of relationship in the past... Ur Gonna Love Me, Get Drunk, Put Me In a Movie, etc... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gecko 247 Posted February 8, 2015 For me: Bradley Soileau I love that moment of the video... It is fantastic that video ( Or Francesco Carrozzini, because he's italian like me unfortunately, I'm not also cool and lucky the thing that we have in common is only the nationality... nothing else 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valentino 885 Posted February 8, 2015 Just seems shady! And her songs are kind of evidence they had SOME type of relationship in the past... Ur Gonna Love Me, Get Drunk, Put Me In a Movie, etc... I'm curious - Why do you think Put Me In A Movie is about Jimmy? That song doesn't really sound like a relationship, either. It's exchanging sex for favors. Maybe it's about the "handsome record executive" she made out with... or a reference to "sleeping with the boss doesn't get you anywhere nowadays. " And it's not shady because what he said was true; people were misinterpreting it for whatever reason. Or do you think there's reason to believe he IS trying to say he met Lana there for the first time and never before? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grabmebymyribbons 911 Posted February 9, 2015 I want her to be with Blake He seems like a sweet guy and he co-wrote Flipside, PWYC etc. oh and he always likes Lana's pics which I find cute. I saw on his Insta that he has a gf but i don't know if they broke up cause Chuck and him is kinda hanging out (purely based on a polaroid photo Chuck posted) I don't ship them . P.S. i love it when Lana grinds Blake. It's one of the best things on earth. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electra 20,644 Posted February 14, 2015 I wish she would have stayed with the one that ultimately made her happy and ultimately made her the way she is today. Even with all this depressed, romantic music I would have been happier never knowing who she was if it ultimately made her happy. It's a shame that we don't know the causes of all her previous relationship endings, but if it felt unfair or unfinished to her then I would have preferred her happiness over anything. She was lovely with Barrie and I think she would be lovely with Franco but again, whatever makes her happy 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electra 20,644 Posted February 14, 2015 I'm curious - Why do you think Put Me In A Movie is about Jimmy? That song doesn't really sound like a relationship, either. It's exchanging sex for favors. Maybe it's about the "handsome record executive" she made out with... or a reference to "sleeping with the boss doesn't get you anywhere nowadays. " And it's not shady because what he said was true; people were misinterpreting it for whatever reason. Or do you think there's reason to believe he IS trying to say he met Lana there for the first time and never before? Put Me In A Movie is about the plot of Lolita ._. Everything that references the film industry is about Clare Quilty and how he attempted to get Dolores to film child pornography. "If he likes me, takes me home." Quilty liked Dolores, so he stole her from the hospital when Humbert was gone. "Come on you know you like little girls." Self explanatory, "You can be my daddy." References how Dolores never had a real father, so it could either be an "invite" for either Humbert or Quilty. "He didn't know he'd have this much fun." Analysis is quite open. Could refer to a real life relation of Del Rey's, could refer to Humbert but probably not referring to Quilty as ultimately he kicked her out when she didn't do as he said. "You're my little Sparkle Jump Rope Queen." Obviously just referring to Del Rey. She could possibly be putting herself in Dolores' place. "You know I can't make it on my own." Refers to how Humbert would blackmail Dolores. If she ever left him, he would be jailed and she would be take into care and "lose all of her possessions". She didn't have a mother to go home to and couldn't survive by herself. "Put Me In A Movie." Again, refers to the child pornography that Dolores was asked to do by Quilty earlier in the novel. Another point is that it is one of Del Rey's, if not her overall favourite book - she writes a lot of songs about Lolita so it's very much possible that what was just stated was quite true. It's open to debate but I doubt it is about her own experiences to some extent. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites