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my prediction for a possible recording timeline
 
Early 2013
• Money Power Glory (Greg Kurstin talked about how this song was recorded “very early on” in the album process, and the version on the album is untouched from that first day)
 
January 2013
• Black Beauty demo
 
April-May 2013
• Cherry Blossom
• Nectar of the Gods
• Living Legend
• West Coast demo/radio mix
 
June 2013
• Unidentified Flying Bill (confirmed to be recorded June 2013 by NightBird Studios)
• Flipside (confirmed to be recorded June 2013 by NightBird Studios)
 
Fall 2013
• Nowels version of Shades of Cool
• Nowels version of Sad Girl
• Nowels version of Brooklyn Baby
• I Can Fly demo
• Is This Happiness
• Old Money
• Fucked My Way Up to the Top demo
• Ultraviolence demo
• Fine China demo
• Yes to Heaven demo
 
December 2013-January 2014
• Pretty When You Cry
• Guns and Roses
- Cruel World written during PWYC/G&R session
 
January-February 2014
• Cruel World final
• Ultraviolence final
• Shades of Cool final
• Brooklyn Baby final
• West Coast final
• Sad Girl final (instrumental re-recorded only, vocal track is the same as the Nowels demo)
• Florida Kilos
• Fucked My Way Up to the Top final
• The Other Woman
• Black Beauty final (vocals not re-recorded, Paul Epworth production just added to the song considering vocal track is the same as demo)
• I Talk to Jesus Auerbach version
• Fine China Auerbach version
• Money Power Glory Auerbach “demo”
• Yes to Heaven Auerbach version
 
 
*I am editing this as others share new information!!

Emerging from the shadows for a moment to say that I am genuinely very curious if we’ll be hearing anything from her after this tour… If she actually did part ways with Capitol, it’s very, very likely that everything she’s recorded while under them belongs only to them (even if she funded it herself). I know that’s what happened to Zella Day in 2019, and she had to remake 3 years of music so she could release the same songs under her new label. If Sky is not with Capitol anymore there’s a high possibility that whatever exists of Masochism up until this point is off the table—perhaps her and the label are both refusing to make any statements because they’re in a legal dispute now and she’s trying to get her songs back from them. At least the tour might cover her legal fees if anything of the sort is happening behind the scenes lol

Adding onto this—I’m pretty sure this is what’s happening to Bonnie McKee as well? I don’t know much about her, but I do know she had label issues and is now re-recording a handful of songs of hers that were made under her old deal, shelved by them, and eventually leaked, and I’m assuming she has to be re-recording for a reason instead of just releasing what she already finished/the masters recorded under her old label. Not sure how all of it works exactly and every contract is different but Sky possibly being dropped could actually be the worst thing that could happen for her at this point considering how much of a perfectionist she is and how much she has already made. If this is the case it’s either start at ground zero and make Masochism (Sky’s Version), scrap Masochism and begin the process of creating a whole new album, or give up after being beaten down by the industry over and over again. If I were in her shoes I would probably give up. We’ll see what happens, hopefully both sides will stop being so vague or someone will be ballsy enough to ask her about it at a show if given the opportunity
 
Edit- okay I just read a bit more about Bonnie McKee and yes, she originally tried to buy the rights back to the songs she made under her old label but was never able to, which is why she’s re-recording. Mind you they were unreleased songs too, just like Sky’s and she still couldn’t get them back to put out officially after she parted ways with them. Yikes

Emerging from the shadows for a moment to say that I am genuinely very curious if we’ll be hearing anything from her after this tour… If she actually did part ways with Capitol, it’s very, very likely that everything she’s recorded while under them belongs only to them (even if she funded it herself). I know that’s what happened to Zella Day in 2019, and she had to remake 3 years of music so she could release the same songs under her new label. If Sky is not with Capitol anymore there’s a high possibility that whatever exists of Masochism up until this point is off the table—perhaps her and the label are both refusing to make any statements because they’re in a legal dispute now and she’s trying to get her songs back from them. At least the tour might cover her legal fees if anything of the sort is happening behind the scenes lol

okay, actually, upon further lyrical examination, it actually seems like the Nicole’s original tracklist does tell a chronological story as well about this housewife-archetype’s husband overdosing on something, her using that opportunity to escape and get out of the situation, only to end up with another bad man that she eventually murders herself… maybe i’ve been listening to too much Ethel Cain but this really does seem uncannily like a concept album, i wonder why she hasn’t addressed it if is
 
Married in Mount Airy — the expedition and setting of the story
 
Gold Satin Dreamer — a closer insight on this character’s relationship and distance with her husband. kind of described in a way like she knows she’s already losing him to whatever he’s taking
 
“Sleep on the couch, where the flowers stay / And never bloom but only fade in the sun”
 
“But I find you here in the blue light of the TV / And I feel you in the wind through the back screen at night / With the kitchen tile cold on my cheek”
 
Dogwood — this character’s husband passing away, all lyrics are pretty self explanatory
 
Runnin’ Free — this is where it starts to get interesting; Gold Satin Dreamer made her seem like this housewife stuck at home, presumably for around 10-15 years (“I was married in Mount Airy in it’s prime sometime in the late 60s” from the title track, “In this lonely ‘78 motorhome” from this song). she’s packing up and finally leaving, she has no reason to stay anymore, hence “Runnin’ Free”
 
“If I told him I'll die out here if I stay / He would hold me in his arms and he’d love it that way”
 
Bad Man — again, all lyrics are pretty self explanatory. this character is reflecting on the loss of her husband, but from this perspective her rose colored glasses start to come off, in turn opening her up to more experiences like in…
 
…My Darling True — all lyrics are pretty self explanatory. seems like at this part of the story, this character meets somebody new, someone she shouldn’t be around. this song however is the only one that sorta makes me question if this was an intentional concept album or just songs that coincidentally tell a chronological story, mostly just because of the lyric, “And they say it's time for me to let you go,” which makes it seem like they’ve known each other for a while. it’s like we missed a few chapters lol, although if Sometime After Midnight was between Bad Man and this track, it would make a lot more sense
 
Moonlite — more insight on the destructive behavior patterns between these two. this main character is building some resentment
 
Sometime After Midnight — again, this song works with the story a lot better between Bad Man and My Darling true lol. but the lyric, “But there's this feeling in my stomach / Wondering if I should just ignore it, but / I was told when something bad happens it’s usually at night” foreshadows…
 
…Nymphs Finding the Head of Orpheus — where everything happens. all of the rage that she has built up is unleashed on this man and.. well.. that bitch is dead
 
“Knowing that I'll make myself sick from the water / Knowing all my tears and rage could load a revolver”
 
“I used to think you must be the water I drink / Holding me down in these waters down beneath / Singing to the sound of my screaming / But now I see”
 
“I used to dream of the day it'd be just you and me like the Wild West / Both of us shooting till one of us was dead / You cruel, cruel man”
 
Summit Song — for some reason, the title of this song is another thing that really sells it to me that this album was meant to tell an intentional story; a summit is a peak, the climax. NFTHOO was definitely the climax of this tale
 
Whispering Glades — those two bitches are dead!!
 
I’ll Wait for You to Call — roll credits
 
like i said maybe i’m just listening to too much Ethel Cain, idk if Nicole intended to do this or if it just happened subconsciously, but regardless it’s really interesting. reallyyyy hoping the music video(s) touch on it

Emerging from the shadows for a moment to say that I am genuinely very curious if we’ll be hearing anything from her after this tour… If she actually did part ways with Capitol, it’s very, very likely that everything she’s recorded while under them belongs only to them (even if she funded it herself). I know that’s what happened to Zella Day in 2019, and she had to remake 3 years of music so she could release the same songs under her new label. If Sky is not with Capitol anymore there’s a high possibility that whatever exists of Masochism up until this point is off the table—perhaps her and the label are both refusing to make any statements because they’re in a legal dispute now and she’s trying to get her songs back from them. At least the tour might cover her legal fees if anything of the sort is happening behind the scenes lol

Emerging from the shadows for a moment to say that I am genuinely very curious if we’ll be hearing anything from her after this tour… If she actually did part ways with Capitol, it’s very, very likely that everything she’s recorded while under them belongs only to them (even if she funded it herself). I know that’s what happened to Zella Day in 2019, and she had to remake 3 years of music so she could release the same songs under her new label. If Sky is not with Capitol anymore there’s a high possibility that whatever exists of Masochism up until this point is off the table—perhaps her and the label are both refusing to make any statements because they’re in a legal dispute now and she’s trying to get her songs back from them. At least the tour might cover her legal fees if anything of the sort is happening behind the scenes lol

you can find a lot of content for this thread by sorting r/lanadelrey by controversial posts 
 
this one isn’t funny though it’s just weird and creepy and gross 

that same person also posted this so i really don’t think they were kidding  

We need a zip for Christmas 2023 with Your Girl (Unedited), Fine China (Unedited), and Yes to Heaven (Unedited) 

lmaooo 💀

you can find a lot of content for this thread by sorting r/lanadelrey by controversial posts 
 
this one isn’t funny though it’s just weird and creepy and gross 

my prediction for a possible recording timeline
 
Early 2013
• Money Power Glory (Greg Kurstin talked about how this song was recorded “very early on” in the album process, and the version on the album is untouched from that first day)
 
January 2013
• Black Beauty demo
 
April-May 2013
• Cherry Blossom
• Nectar of the Gods
• Living Legend
• West Coast demo/radio mix
 
June 2013
• Unidentified Flying Bill (confirmed to be recorded June 2013 by NightBird Studios)
• Flipside (confirmed to be recorded June 2013 by NightBird Studios)
 
Fall 2013
• Nowels version of Shades of Cool
• Nowels version of Sad Girl
• Nowels version of Brooklyn Baby
• I Can Fly demo
• Is This Happiness
• Old Money
• Fucked My Way Up to the Top demo
• Ultraviolence demo
• Fine China demo
• Yes to Heaven demo
 
December 2013-January 2014
• Pretty When You Cry
• Guns and Roses
- Cruel World written during PWYC/G&R session
 
January-February 2014
• Cruel World final
• Ultraviolence final
• Shades of Cool final
• Brooklyn Baby final
• West Coast final
• Sad Girl final (instrumental re-recorded only, vocal track is the same as the Nowels demo)
• Florida Kilos
• Fucked My Way Up to the Top final
• The Other Woman
• Black Beauty final (vocals not re-recorded, Paul Epworth production just added to the song considering vocal track is the same as demo)
• I Talk to Jesus Auerbach version
• Fine China Auerbach version
• Money Power Glory Auerbach “demo”
• Yes to Heaven Auerbach version
 
 
*I am editing this as others share new information!!

Cause she's the queen of folk music, has inspired countless other folk singers, and also inspired lots of women on women rights which was somewhat taboo in the 60s, as well as civil rights, walking with MLK. She was extremely influential to so many but never really got the recognition for it, kinda like Lana.  She was my mom's favorite and my mom was obsessed with her and always playing her music. Like how people like Billie elish got started by playing Lana songs. Joan did that and inspired confidence for countless women. Joan is really big deal but it's not really know  in mainstream culture. 
Joan did more for women of that era than anyone. Hands down. 

this is so well put and you hit the nail on the head. people are so quick to call all shocking or sometimes offensive art “problematic” when that isn’t the case at all in most situations

obscure lowkey irrelevant sleuthing information i just found, but lanadelrey.com is registered under Rob’s name (makes sense) and the domain was first acquired on June 3rd, 2009

I still think it’s funny that my discovering of Lana was when Taylor ripped off the Ride music video; I remember the first time I had ever heard of Lana was in December 2012 when Taylor released the I Knew You Were Trouble video and all of the comments were about how she stole Lana’s idea. I looked up the Ride video and watched it to see what all of the fuss was about and the rest is history  Lana’s always been my favorite throughout the years, but I feel like how often she releases music actually started leaving me kind of oversaturated last year so in 2021 I probably listened to her the least I ever have. But I’m past that and excited for the new era, and I also recognize that she has not only grown as an artist but as a person, and it’s not fair to expect of her what people expected 10 years ago. We’re watching her legacy unfold on her terms and it’s very refreshing

i feel like, at the beginning of her career when she said “all of my music is 100% autobiographical” or whatever that quote was, people took it the wrong way. you can make art that is 100% about your life and still use metaphors or references to other things to talk about your actual experiences, that doesn’t mean you’re lying, it just means you’re making art which isn’t always supposed to be taken literally or at face value. she used to do that a lot. or she could’ve just been flat out lying she also did used to do that a lot lmao

Breaking my silence simply to say, all you 16 year olds will never understand the impact of Lana’s artistry in early 2010s, before you were even in grade school. The only “problematic” thing about the Ride video and Lana’s early career in general is the headdress thing, but everything else, she was a nearly 30 year old woman perfectly capable of making her own decisions and she had a very strong vision for her art, which everyone absolutely ate up at the time. Obviously Lana still has insane impact, but it was different and a different kind of it 10+ years ago. She was just putting her truth into her music and visuals, while obviously slightly embellishing things in the name of creating an immersive world, just because something from over a decade ago makes you uncomfortable, that doesn’t mean any of your criticism of it is valid. Lana Del Rey wouldn’t be Lana Del Rey without the artist she was back then, and you sound exactly like what the gross journalists sounded like back then. The boomerfication of Gen Z and weird rise in purity culture is so real, no high school aged people should be speaking on how Lana approached her career before they could count to 100 unless they’ve made a conscious effort to understand her. If “grotesque” art from grown ass women bothers you then i don’t think Lana is the artist for you

it’s really funny to me how when you take away Fiona’s label issues, Ella and Fiona have had such similar career trajectories. First album released as a (mouthy—to a fault) teenager, highly critically acclaimed. comes back a few years later with something even better that’s immediately considered a modern cult classic to even more praise, even though it doesn’t do as well commercially as the first album. retreats from the public eye for a while, and comes back with a 3rd album that doesn’t necessarily meet fan expectations or the standard they set for themselves with previous releases. which means that L3 is going to be her Idler Wheel yeah masterpiece incoming 😭😭😭

that same person also posted this so i really don’t think they were kidding