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first of all. hi 
second, btd was the basic lana because of the lyrics, cliches, pop, bad boy with good girl. but unique vintage imagery and sound.
third, commercial because her label and lana wanted the album to have heavy promotion and hits so that they would establish and image for Lana Del Rey!, so that in later years as now she would have to to the same ammount of promo because she would already have an image in the mainstream catalogue and a determined public (all of us     ) that would always listen to her material no matter what!
fourth, basic and commercial are not bad things btw, they are just the "basics" to establish Lana in the music industry and scene

Just tellin y'all that if you want to see the commercial and basic (iniatial) side of Lana just go and listen to born to die, don't call yourself a fan if you always expect Lana to drop a pop single and be a commercial success, that just not happening unless SHE DECIDES IT BY HERSELF, and please don't go off topic , this thread was to discuss LDR5 not the commercial activity of Ultraviolence or Honeymoon and even comparing them to an album that hasn't been released yet.

first of all. hi 
second, btd was the basic lana because of the lyrics, cliches, pop, bad boy with good girl. but unique vintage imagery and sound.
third, commercial because her label and lana wanted the album to have heavy promotion and hits so that they would establish and image for Lana Del Rey!, so that in later years as now she would have to to the same ammount of promo because she would already have an image in the mainstream catalogue and a determined public (all of us     ) that would always listen to her material no matter what!
fourth, basic and commercial are not bad things btw, they are just the "basics" to establish Lana in the music industry and scene

You guys, you guys suck.

LOL I FORGOT ABOUT THE TITLE TRACK , PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER HONEYMOON AS PART OF THE ALBUM CAUSE THAT SONG IS LYRICAL TRASH LMAO

tbh i have to say that it is a fact that this was her best record, on lyrical terms she has improved a lot and the sound and ambiance for this record was the  appropriate, the only reason people don't like this one as much as BTD or Uv is because they cannot shake their twink asses like in BTD  or cut their veins like in UV
the only thing that i can agree with is that the production of the videography was the worst cause they only used recycled material from the UV era.

LOL I FORGOT ABOUT THE TITLE TRACK , PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER HONEYMOON AS PART OF THE ALBUM CAUSE THAT SONG IS LYRICAL TRASH LMAO

GIRLLLLL YOU BETTA STOP IM TRIGGERED 

I WOULD DIE FOR SOME DEMOS OF UV AND HM  

tbh i have to say that it is a fact that this was her best record, on lyrical terms she has improved a lot and the sound and ambiance for this record was the  appropriate, the only reason people don't like this one as much as BTD or Uv is because they cannot shake their twink asses like in BTD  or cut their veins like in UV
the only thing that i can agree with is that the production of the videography was the worst cause they only used recycled material from the UV era.

tbh i have to say that it is a fact that this was her best record, on lyrical terms she has improved a lot and the sound and ambiance for this record was the  appropriate, the only reason people don't like this one as much as BTD or Uv is because they cannot shake their twink asses like in BTD  or cut their veins like in UV
the only thing that i can agree with is that the production of the videography was the worst cause they only used recycled material from the UV era.

tbh i have to say that it is a fact that this was her best record, on lyrical terms she has improved a lot and the sound and ambiance for this record was the  appropriate, the only reason people don't like this one as much as BTD or Uv is because they cannot shake their twink asses like in BTD  or cut their veins like in UV
the only thing that i can agree with is that the production of the videography was the worst cause they only used recycled material from the UV era.

Hello everybody, my name is Gonzalo, i'm @lanastarboy on instagram, i decided to start this topic because of the weird story of Lana's second LP "ULTRAVIOLENCE" 
Here is what i have for discussion !:
 
1) Rolling Stones Interview with Dan Auerbach ( http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/how-lana-del-rey-fought-to-get-her-radical-ultraviolence-lp-released-20140718 )
 
1.1) 
"There was a lot of bull:) I'm not used to," Dan Auerbach tells Rolling Stone
 
 "The label says, 'We're not going to give you the budget to extend this session unless we hear something.' And we send them the rough mix and they hate it and they hate the way it's mixed. And it's like, 'Thanks, asshole.'… I think Lana put her foot down. Maybe it's normal for her, but it's not normal for me.  Really rubbed me the wrong way.  I got really defensive because I thought it was bull:).
 
"The story I got told," he continues, "is that they played it for her label person and they said, "We're not putting out this record that you and Dan made unless you meet with the Adele producer. And she said, 'Fine, whatever.' And she was late to the meeting, so while they were waiting, the label guy played what we recorded for the Adele producer and he said, 'This is amazing, I wouldn't do anything to change this.' And here's the kicker: Then all of a sudden, the label guy said, 'Well, yeah, I think it's great, too.'"
 
 
Del Rey acknowledges a six-week period this past spring when Ultraviolence was in limbo. "I mean, I think there were people they wanted me to work with," she says. "I don't know who they were. When I said I was ready, they were like, 'Are you sure?'" She laughs. "'Because I feel like you could go further.'"
 
 
"On this album, in my opinion, you didn't want her to try to do something," adds Janick's predecessor, Jimmy Iovine. "I felt she hit a bull's-eye. Everybody's saying to me, 'We need a single,' calling me from Europe. I said, 'You don't need anything.' It's a very coherent body of work, and thought any other conversation was a distraction."
 
 
Janick and Jimmy Iovine are both Interscope Chiefs and they were the ones who defended Lana against the main label in Europe, also when they said 'We need a single,' they wanted Lana to make a pop hit like in 2012.
 
2) http://www.nme.com/news/music/lana-del-rey-114-1245121
 
2.1)
He adds: “She impressed me every day. There were moments when she was fighting me. I could sense that maybe she didn’t want to have anybody think she wasn’t in control because I’m sure it’s really hard to be a woman in the music business. So we bumped heads a little bit, but at the end of the day we were dancing to the songs.”
 
3) http://radio.com/2014/06/12/lana-del-rey-interview-maleficent-ultraviolence/
3.1)
LDR: Dan said that everything on the record, all the songs have this kind of narco-swing. So whereas the beat and the verses on “West Coast” were really direct, the chorus naturally slipped into this half-time beat. I just remember everyone at the label being like, ‘God, it’s getting slower at the chorus?’ And we were like, yeah!
 
4) Also years ago there was an image floating around of a music video  that was intended for the UV Era but was scrapped, the music video included the water girls that we have now seen in the MTWBT AND FREAK Music Video, these girls also appeared in Neil Krug's 2014 Photoshoot named "Pale Fire", this photoshoot was allegedly for an upcoming single of the album but in ended up being scrapped off the record.


 
5)The original music video for the song "Ultraviolence" was the Freak Music Video that they recycled for the Honeymoon Era, sadly it was rejected because it would be controversial due to the fact that it was a tribute to the Jonestown Massacre, Interscope permitted Lana to recycle the material along the song Freak when there was not a lot of buzz surrounding her image.
 
6) Scrapped Homemade Video for "West Coast" and "Pretty When You Cry"
 
 
 

also it would be so much better if she uses more production for new videos instead of using recycled material like in the honeymoon era!

i hope lana makes an effort and does more promo for this album , cause honeymoon dear.........

Hello everybody, my name is Gonzalo, i'm @lanastarboy on instagram, i decided to start this topic because of the weird story of Lana's second LP "ULTRAVIOLENCE" 
Here is what i have for discussion !:
 
1) Rolling Stones Interview with Dan Auerbach ( http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/how-lana-del-rey-fought-to-get-her-radical-ultraviolence-lp-released-20140718 )
 
1.1) 
"There was a lot of bull:) I'm not used to," Dan Auerbach tells Rolling Stone
 
 "The label says, 'We're not going to give you the budget to extend this session unless we hear something.' And we send them the rough mix and they hate it and they hate the way it's mixed. And it's like, 'Thanks, asshole.'… I think Lana put her foot down. Maybe it's normal for her, but it's not normal for me.  Really rubbed me the wrong way.  I got really defensive because I thought it was bull:).
 
"The story I got told," he continues, "is that they played it for her label person and they said, "We're not putting out this record that you and Dan made unless you meet with the Adele producer. And she said, 'Fine, whatever.' And she was late to the meeting, so while they were waiting, the label guy played what we recorded for the Adele producer and he said, 'This is amazing, I wouldn't do anything to change this.' And here's the kicker: Then all of a sudden, the label guy said, 'Well, yeah, I think it's great, too.'"
 
 
Del Rey acknowledges a six-week period this past spring when Ultraviolence was in limbo. "I mean, I think there were people they wanted me to work with," she says. "I don't know who they were. When I said I was ready, they were like, 'Are you sure?'" She laughs. "'Because I feel like you could go further.'"
 
 
"On this album, in my opinion, you didn't want her to try to do something," adds Janick's predecessor, Jimmy Iovine. "I felt she hit a bull's-eye. Everybody's saying to me, 'We need a single,' calling me from Europe. I said, 'You don't need anything.' It's a very coherent body of work, and thought any other conversation was a distraction."
 
 
Janick and Jimmy Iovine are both Interscope Chiefs and they were the ones who defended Lana against the main label in Europe, also when they said 'We need a single,' they wanted Lana to make a pop hit like in 2012.
 
2) http://www.nme.com/news/music/lana-del-rey-114-1245121
 
2.1)
He adds: “She impressed me every day. There were moments when she was fighting me. I could sense that maybe she didn’t want to have anybody think she wasn’t in control because I’m sure it’s really hard to be a woman in the music business. So we bumped heads a little bit, but at the end of the day we were dancing to the songs.”
 
3) http://radio.com/2014/06/12/lana-del-rey-interview-maleficent-ultraviolence/
3.1)
LDR: Dan said that everything on the record, all the songs have this kind of narco-swing. So whereas the beat and the verses on “West Coast” were really direct, the chorus naturally slipped into this half-time beat. I just remember everyone at the label being like, ‘God, it’s getting slower at the chorus?’ And we were like, yeah!
 
4) Also years ago there was an image floating around of a music video  that was intended for the UV Era but was scrapped, the music video included the water girls that we have now seen in the MTWBT AND FREAK Music Video, these girls also appeared in Neil Krug's 2014 Photoshoot named "Pale Fire", this photoshoot was allegedly for an upcoming single of the album but in ended up being scrapped off the record.


 
5)The original music video for the song "Ultraviolence" was the Freak Music Video that they recycled for the Honeymoon Era, sadly it was rejected because it would be controversial due to the fact that it was a tribute to the Jonestown Massacre, Interscope permitted Lana to recycle the material along the song Freak when there was not a lot of buzz surrounding her image.
 
6) Scrapped Homemade Video for "West Coast" and "Pretty When You Cry"
 
 
 

tbh i have to say that it is a fact that this was her best record, on lyrical terms she has improved a lot and the sound and ambiance for this record was the  appropriate, the only reason people don't like this one as much as BTD or Uv is because they cannot shake their twink asses like in BTD  or cut their veins like in UV
the only thing that i can agree with is that the production of the videography was the worst cause they only used recycled material from the UV era.

I'd be so curious to see the 'original Ultraviolence' it's my favorite Lana album and it would've been so different and possibly even better with all the scrapped visuals etc

I WOULD DIE FOR SOME DEMOS OF UV AND HM  

I WOULD DIE FOR SOME DEMOS OF UV AND HM  

Hello everybody, my name is Gonzalo, i'm @lanastarboy on instagram, i decided to start this topic because of the weird story of Lana's second LP "ULTRAVIOLENCE" 
Here is what i have for discussion !:
 
1) Rolling Stones Interview with Dan Auerbach ( http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/how-lana-del-rey-fought-to-get-her-radical-ultraviolence-lp-released-20140718 )
 
1.1) 
"There was a lot of bull:) I'm not used to," Dan Auerbach tells Rolling Stone
 
 "The label says, 'We're not going to give you the budget to extend this session unless we hear something.' And we send them the rough mix and they hate it and they hate the way it's mixed. And it's like, 'Thanks, asshole.'… I think Lana put her foot down. Maybe it's normal for her, but it's not normal for me.  Really rubbed me the wrong way.  I got really defensive because I thought it was bull:).
 
"The story I got told," he continues, "is that they played it for her label person and they said, "We're not putting out this record that you and Dan made unless you meet with the Adele producer. And she said, 'Fine, whatever.' And she was late to the meeting, so while they were waiting, the label guy played what we recorded for the Adele producer and he said, 'This is amazing, I wouldn't do anything to change this.' And here's the kicker: Then all of a sudden, the label guy said, 'Well, yeah, I think it's great, too.'"
 
 
Del Rey acknowledges a six-week period this past spring when Ultraviolence was in limbo. "I mean, I think there were people they wanted me to work with," she says. "I don't know who they were. When I said I was ready, they were like, 'Are you sure?'" She laughs. "'Because I feel like you could go further.'"
 
 
"On this album, in my opinion, you didn't want her to try to do something," adds Janick's predecessor, Jimmy Iovine. "I felt she hit a bull's-eye. Everybody's saying to me, 'We need a single,' calling me from Europe. I said, 'You don't need anything.' It's a very coherent body of work, and thought any other conversation was a distraction."
 
 
Janick and Jimmy Iovine are both Interscope Chiefs and they were the ones who defended Lana against the main label in Europe, also when they said 'We need a single,' they wanted Lana to make a pop hit like in 2012.
 
2) http://www.nme.com/news/music/lana-del-rey-114-1245121
 
2.1)
He adds: “She impressed me every day. There were moments when she was fighting me. I could sense that maybe she didn’t want to have anybody think she wasn’t in control because I’m sure it’s really hard to be a woman in the music business. So we bumped heads a little bit, but at the end of the day we were dancing to the songs.”
 
3) http://radio.com/2014/06/12/lana-del-rey-interview-maleficent-ultraviolence/
3.1)
LDR: Dan said that everything on the record, all the songs have this kind of narco-swing. So whereas the beat and the verses on “West Coast” were really direct, the chorus naturally slipped into this half-time beat. I just remember everyone at the label being like, ‘God, it’s getting slower at the chorus?’ And we were like, yeah!
 
4) Also years ago there was an image floating around of a music video  that was intended for the UV Era but was scrapped, the music video included the water girls that we have now seen in the MTWBT AND FREAK Music Video, these girls also appeared in Neil Krug's 2014 Photoshoot named "Pale Fire", this photoshoot was allegedly for an upcoming single of the album but in ended up being scrapped off the record.


 
5)The original music video for the song "Ultraviolence" was the Freak Music Video that they recycled for the Honeymoon Era, sadly it was rejected because it would be controversial due to the fact that it was a tribute to the Jonestown Massacre, Interscope permitted Lana to recycle the material along the song Freak when there was not a lot of buzz surrounding her image.
 
6) Scrapped Homemade Video for "West Coast" and "Pretty When You Cry"
 
 
 

i hope lana makes an effort and does more promo for this album , cause honeymoon dear.........

also it would be so much better if she uses more production for new videos instead of using recycled material like in the honeymoon era!

i hope lana makes an effort and does more promo for this album , cause honeymoon dear.........

i hope lana makes an effort and does more promo for this album , cause honeymoon dear.........