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  1. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    There was a period of time when Lana and Barrie would just... travel, everywhere. I think they would visit random studios writing/recording songs there with whoever was available. It's hard to pinpoint what was made by who beyond them 2. I think they would sometimes just leave the songs in the studio even. UFB was never planned to be included on UV, they just made it for fun, they were in love. Whoever was the working engineer in the NightBird studios the day they recorded it is probably the song's only co-producer.
  2. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    I am preparing a massive post on YTH / FC / YG that I hope I will finish tomorrow
  3. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    This is low key my most wanted Lana thing of all time and it might be lost 
  4. HeadBitch liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    California and Crazy for You are from the very first sessions for HM in 2014, IIDY is however from 2015 already I believe
  5. HeadBitch liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Well yes, Y&B, Dark Paradise, even SYTH among some that got beyond 100. But as you noted, some of those are nearly identical, Rick and his engineers are just very strict and every single slightest change gets noted as new mix. Not all of them even have to be exported.
     
  6. jimmorison liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    This is exactly how it reached those 300+ numbers
    But yeah that song went through a LOT and we have like.. close to none of it
  7. momoquack liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    He is a bit confused yeah dd, 129 tracks refers to amount of audio tracks in the song's session as someone explained. But while we are on the topic - LFL, the song, has 323 mixes which i think is the most for any Lana song ever..
     
  8. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Honeymouns remains the reason you got all the Dan UV demos so let's not do too much on him
  9. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Whatever that means
     
    What I'll say tho... if you are to manifest some amazing outtakes. Manifest LFL outtakes.
  10. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    I know nothing about this, same with that St. Petersburg soundcheck song. I tried to find out what this was all about, but never reached anything.
    What I did learn however is that Lana happens to improvise random things during soundchecks as a form of warm up and I think these might be those cases. But I really don't know
  11. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Yes and it's not only that, it's kinda a pattern throughout her career!
    Each time Lana wrote a song with Rick, but it was released with/alongside someone else's production, but she still liked the demo, she would finish it with Rick and release as radio mix.
    Radio mixes of Dark Paradise and Summertime Sadness are both finished Rick demos  
  12. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Pretty sure that what she said was "I have an idea for this record called Music to Watch Boys to", but I don't know in what context she meant that, I would say it was about the song, but please note that first actual recording sessions for HM with Rick started in September 2014, so everything prior was just ideas
  13. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    I don't recall Get High, but yes the other 2 are definitely real OG titles of the songs so Get High might as well be
  14. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Yeah I Don't Wanna Go / Tonight / Black Leather Moonlight (as annoying as it sounds, all 3 titles are equally correct, you can use whichever one you want) that leaked is from mid 2012, then it was rewritten and re-produced as Lake Placid for Tropico/UV
     
    ITTJ is another essay-type post I don't have energy for right now. Not gonna lie I hate that song, never put full effort to piece its timeline together
     
    The simple answer to this is that Rob Orton, UV's mixing engineer, was still mixing the tracks at the time of WC release and they just attached earlier mix to it. Pretty sure it was even released on streaming later as Rob Orton mix or something
  15. Brooklyn Fetus liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    I'm not sure about YTH, but Fine China went as far as being mixed by Rob Orton and it's a Rick Nowels version. Same with Your Girl
    But as soon as she came back to work on Honeymoon the first person to touch SYTH again was Rick so you could say the last version of YTH for UV was Rick's (per leaked files though - James Ford version is the latest, from April 2014 I think)
    What you are missing is the fact that Dan did demos of Pretty When You Cry and Guns & Roses as well, they just never leaked
  16. xlanax liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Wow there is so much disappointed coming for some of you it seems, Dan Auerbach never produced SYTH or Fine China
  17. takemybreath liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    I'm gonna do a whole post on Yes To Heaven, Fine China and Your Girl, but it's gonna be an essay, cause there is a lot to say, especially in relation to the Eclipse leaked files... I need some time to put it together
     
    It was the pre-chorus
  18. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Lana did record Ave Maria, it was considered for UV even "after Tropico"
     
    Talking like an Answering Machine is a bit of a mystery to me as well, but there seems to be a higher chance that it's real rather than that it's not 
     
    Melancholia uses seemingly the same instrumentation as UV and some parts of the melody, but outside of that it's pretty much a very different song, very rough though.
     
     
    It's just an unreleased song, all I'll say 
     
  19. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    I think this is something she could have planned, but never executed. Even though the picture was from 2013 the notepad writing, could have been a bit older, but either way at that time some of the other songs only existed as voice memos/laptop demos as well. So she just put together what she liked and planned to finish and that's something she kept changing a lot further on
  20. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Never heard about Elvis being actually reworked, but it's a song Lana remembered if that makes sense. Also wasn't it used for some movie a few years ago, that Lana acknowledged as well? They surely used the "final" existing version there
  21. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Because it was not planned. She wanted the visual to be made for songs only from the new record. I guess she wanted to launch the album alongside, but when she realized the album was not ready they just decided to use it for Paradise era and create different visuals for LP2 when it's all done.
  22. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    What I see here and what seems to make sense by what existed in January 2013 already:
    1. Old Money?
    2. Black Beauty?
    3.  ??
    4. Lake Placid
    5. Summertime
    6. Melancholia
    7. Jesus (ITTJ)
    8. Pink Champagne - this is the original name of Let Me Love You Like A Woman demo
    9. Elvis
    10. Earthquakes
    and further I can't read, but it Guns n Roses, Money Power Glory and maybe Cherry Blossom I'd expect to be on such draft from that time as well
  23. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Hi everyone, thank you so much for collective effort to get my account back!
     
    Before I answer anything, I just wanted to say that at the end of the day I am not Lana, I am not in her head, I was not in the room when these songs were made and there is always a tiny bit of chance that I am wrong. Everything I'm revealing is based on (sometimes years of researching) things I listened to, read about or heard from people who worked with her directly. I do find timeliness, demos, drafts etc very fascinating as it gives you some additional cool insight of what was happening behind the scenes so I'll happily join the discussions here
  24. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    I don't know if it's ok to just continue it all in this thread, but I guess everything related to unreleased material from UV does count as "Scrapped 3rd album" discussion.
     
    Starting with the name, I personally never heard of "Trans-Am" being referenced, whether as a song title, album title or some project. Maybe it was a code name Lana used, maybe something insignificant. I did however see Tropico being used interchangeably as LP2/Second studio album form late 2012. I suspect that Lana had a visual idea for it from the start and already was in talks to make a movie for it in early stages. Maybe it went as far as her signing some agreements or label scheduling some timelines that had to be met in order to make the visual happen, but when it approached Lana might have decided she is not ready with the record at all and needs more time to finish it so they made ultimate decision to use the visual for Paradise edition instead. Since the name Tropico was more attached to the visual theme than the album she was making, she changed the album name and kept Tropico for the movie
  25. Dark City liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    This is something I'd gladly discuss, but it would be mostly speculations mixed with facts.
     
    Rich Lee was commissioned to direct music videos for 2 first singles of LFL - Love and The Next Best American Record. Love was obviously done first and sometime in late 2016/early 2017, before BAR video was recorded, someone must have either hacked or scammed Rich obtaining Love music video as well as reference audio for the BAR music video. This led to both spreading and leaking causing massive drama behind the scenes and ultimately scrapping BAR as a whole. We are "lucky" they only leaked this late, cause who knows if that happened earlier Lana might have never recorded the MV at all.
     
    There is however the other side/reason to it that might be even stronger imo. The original TNBAR version is clearly shady and putting a lot of guilt on Barrie for the fall of their relationship. I feel like later at that time she came to realization that she might have been too hard on him - or even more, perhaps they happened to meet/talk and become friends on good terms again. The BAR video was built fully around the lyrics of the demo so when she realized she definitely wouldn't release that song without changing its narrative, the music video must be discarded. Since it was a really good visual that Lana loved and it would be a waste to just scrap it, they reused it for White Mustang. But yes, the full video was ready to be put out for The Next Best American Record.
     
    This also might be one of the reasons for other LFL tracklist changes, but I don't know that.
     
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