Future Jazz

true but if there's just one kinda long title i truly don't mind... and it's not as long as some on LFL, thank God. even on other records, there were Fucked My Way Up To The Top, Music To Watch Boys To, The Next Best American Record, Hope of course

lmao yeah my bad!!

banned for jinxing the cursedness and messiness of eras by deciding to make timelines of them as soon as the last record is out

daily reminder that tulsa jesus freak, dark but just a game, not all who wander are lost and yosemite have no piano at all

yeah she had done both. yin/yang in the Zane Lowe interview and sister tracks at a concert in late July 2017 if i remember correctly

i feel like i'm the only one who does not find 'not all who wander are lost' to be cringeworthy at all like it's miles away from 'live laugh love'

i think most of us would agree the title track is honeymoon level though

the way the last three songs on 99% of the rankings are breaking up slowly, for free and lmlylaw

the way peace is exactly what not all who wander are lost is going to bring us also here's to 16 days!!!!!

1- white dress 2- not all who wander are lost 3- tulsa jesus freak 4- yosemite 5- wild at heart 6- chemtrails over the country club 7- dance till we die 8- dark but just a game 9- breaking up slowly 10- let me love you like a woman 11- for free

in LQ it was around 15 days, in HQ it was 3 days

just because it's generally considered a good song doesn't mean it's above criticism

Tulsa Jesus Freak and Not All Who Wander Are Lost

I agree that the elements that the lyrics contain add up to a pleasant, sweet, nostalgic atmosphere. and for that reason, I don't think they're bad lyrics, i think they're average Lana lyrics. however, the reasons why i feel they're not as good as those for many other songs are that first, they don't have lines that I'd call beautiful in the sense that 'but i love that man, like nobody can, he moves mountains and pounds them to ground again' is. individually considered, all of its lines are very simple, and that's something that makes the lyrics weaker, to me, than those of HTD, where the global atmosphere is there too, but the lyrics individually considered are excellent. i also think a lot of those elements are reused from other songs ('nothing gold can stay', 'ice cream', being American, being stronger, being insane and beautiful, getting high, diamonds, Norman Rockwell...) to the point where it feels a bit forced to me. and finally, I know that's a controversial take, but for social and political reasons, I'm not a fan of calling oneself a bitch, or depicting oneself in an object-type position for men (which 'i'm sweet for you', 'it's me your little venice bitch', 'you write' and only THEN 'i tour' imply, in my opinion). but then again, I know they're far from being her worst lyrics

i'm not saying salvatore has good lyrics, nor am i saying venice bitch isn't a good song i agree she's written far worse lines, i just thought white dress would be above all that. and i picked that one because i think it represents well vb's lyrics!

once again, I'm not saying the lyrics to VB are bad, I'm saying that in my opinion, which you don't seem to give a lot of credit to - implying im just not at the point where i can understand what you understand - they're not as good as those for the better half of the songs on NFR. and the lyrics to bartender, california, hope, fuck it i love you, how to disappear aren't that melodramatic either. and i JUST said i expected more from white dress, for the reasons that i gave, but maybe that was, indeed, setting myself up for disappointment. let's agree to disagree though!

girl i'm the number one hater of the songs where she glamorises domestic abuse, that's not what it's about... i'm saying a lot of her songs have lyrics that i consider to be better than those of venice bitch. on nfr, i think how to disappear, bartender, california, hope is a dangerous thing, fuck it i love you, mariners apartment complex have better lyrics. but that's just my opinion!

I just thought that the way Eclipse loved it and Lana seems to deem it special implied there would be more to the lyrics than 'ice cream, ice queen, i dream in jeans and leather' i know the vb lyrics have some qualities but i'm just saying i expected more from white dress. now it is what it is

well i did, because of how it was called one of her saddest songs, because it's one of the few songs that deal with her Lizzy past, because she said it was clear what the song was about (whereas venice bitch??.......), because of the two-faced title, because of the 'it made me feel like a god' line also bartender was called weird and it has her best lyrics in a long time

yeah but the fact that she's talking about her Lizzy days shows there would have been an opportunity for a lyrical masterpiece, and in my opinion, Venice Bitch is far, far from that. so i hoped it'd be better than what it seems to be for white dress. we can't judge without knowing the lyrics, but i got disappointed when i learned they were akin to those of venice bitch. doesn't mean they're gonna be bad though

the thing i'm scared of is that the lyrics of white dress were described (by Eclipse i think? but i might be wrong) as not that good

manifesting a chemtrails world tour with a majority of songs from either chemtrails or aka

true, I forgot about BPBP! it was heavily reworked for LFL though, contrary to yosemite (or even tnbar). for old money i wouldn't put it in the same category though, it's miles away from Methamphetamines in terms of lyrics, production, atmosphere...

the way I'd rather have the political LFL outtakes on LDR8 than new songs inspired by QTFC because somehow her political views were cooler in 2017 than they seem to be now by the way it seems that we're escaping qftc-inspired tracks on chemtrails... none of the songs seem to be about it, which is consistent with the fact that the songs were all recorded before qftc (except for not all who wander are lost, maybe) though

sometimes i think that the fact that tnbar and yosemite are the two only older songs she's ever put on album (yayo aside) is testament to her actually taking our wishes into consideration... those two songs probably feel special to her but she also knows how bad we wanted yosemite, given the number of times fans asked her about it, etc. i sometimes wonder if she's had regrets scrapping several songs from lfl anyways girlies get ready for the political outtakes on LDR8