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tbh i really don’t feel like time has flown by december 7 feels like literal ages ago. it’s crazy to think we’ve had the preorder for so long and i really hope it doesn’t happen for the next era a normal rollout should be like honeymoon’s without delays or a 4-months-long wait between preorder and release
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Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
Future Jazz replied to Elle's topic in Post-Release Threads
I don’t like how Lana herself, the fandom and the critics painted out this album to be a social commentary when, in fact, 99% of the lyrics are about love and relationships. The Kanye West reference, the “LA’s in flames” line and the “there’s a new revolution” line - because there really isn’t more to it - are not enough to make it a social commentary. She does not even give an opinion on those events/movement she briefly and vaguely alludes to! Lust for Life would be much more of a social commentary. It saddens me because the one album that’s painted out to be deep and politically relevant has lyrics that are so much safer than lyrics on Blue Banisters or even Chemtrails. -
she does use a similar melody for the beginning of the chorus and she does sing about a glamorous relationship with a guy but imo it’s not a Lana song at all, it is much more taylor than it is lana. i agree there are influences of Lana’s work sometimes, notably in wildest dreams, but i think it can hardly be said that they ever copied her
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neither Billie nor Taylor ever copied Lana though the closest thing Taylor has put out to a Lana record would be folklore/evermore, which are still only vaguely akin to Lana's work in terms of lyrics, melodies, production, in terms of pretty much everything. to be honest i don't think a single lyric from Taylor or Billie could ever really be identified as Lana's. the three of them have very distinct ways of writing and deliver very different vocals. Lana has had a major impact on music, but that doesn't mean that any female artist who makes alternative music is mechanically copying her.
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i hope this doesn’t sound unpleasant but when insiders give information, or when lana posts snippets, it is bound to spoil something because it lessens the impact the songs have upon first listen. i agree that some things spoil the surprise or the impact more than others, but any piece of information does spoil something, and i think it’s a bit sad that we need new information to drop on a regular basis to be excited. maybe knowing the album is coming and is going to be good should be enough to be excited, or maybe we shouldn’t even deem it desirable to be excited for the whole pre-release era as it’s so long this time around, and constantly being excited means thinking about it constantly, which somehow hinders serenity. in my opinion, knowing that the album is going to floor us, the way to go might be not to ask for information from insiders, or not to pay too much attention to it if they spill. time flies by when you don’t think of the thing you’re waiting for that much, and it’s actually something that’s made possible by the fact that Lana herself doesn’t talk about it or make promotion. i personally view the lack of news as an opportunity to not think about it too much and to not know too much about it until it arrives and of course i include myself, i also catch myself looking for news and lurking here more often that i probably should, but i’m really convinced that it’s healthier not to wish for new information every week, and that it’s all for the better as the album is going to be fresh and surprising upon first listen
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That is very true! She has made a lot more albums thanks to the time and space she got from not touring that much. Anyway she makes the final decision about that balance between touring and recording. I still hope to see her live one day though because I have literally devoted 11 years of my life to her music
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I agree with your analysis and don't think she's going to do a traditional tour in the near future, but I honestly don't think it's fair to say she's done everything she had to do. Not that she has to tour per se, but in my opinion, she hasn't done what it is reasonable to expect from an artist who tours from the moment they tour. I live in France and in the past eight years, she has been there once in 2016, once in 2017, and that's it. And it was at festivals so it was super expensive, then she cancelled the 2020 show for the reasons we know. At least she did come to my country, even though I was too young to see her alone and I couldn't afford it anyway; but she never went to Asia or Africa. Still, she really hasn't been a lot in Europe, considering how popular she is here. I agree that it is quite a challenge to tour and that it is understandable that she doesn't want to do it anymore (even though it's probably a lot less challenging for her than for artists who put an emphasis on dancing, visuals, etc), but I don't think her track record with touring when she was touring has been really satisfactory Then again, not every artist has to tour, but from the moment they do, there is bound to be some expectations based on what the average artist who tours does, and I don't feel like she has really met them in the past eight years. And even though touring is tiring, maybe that shouldn't prevail over all the other factors, as touring is a way to brighten the lives of millions of fans, because of how important she is to us, so I really wish she did tour again, even though I agree it's not realistic to expect her to.
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I’m so glad I still haven’t listened to the single with every new album cycle i’ve gained more self-control, from listening to the incredibly low quality honeymoon leak, to listening to the snippets for lust for life and nfr but not to low quality leaks, to refraining from listening to anything but the singles for blue banisters, to refraining from listening to the singles. i’ve been wanting to do this for quite some time now and it’s probably easier this era than it usually is, as the pre-release is short and there are no recycled songs, almost no snippets, probably just one or two singles and most importantly no delay
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also on lanapedia i think Crazy for You should be removed from “Unleaked songs” as we got a demo which is already quite elaborate, we don’t have the final for Hollywood’s Dead either but it’s not under “Unleaked songs”, rather until “Unleaked versions”, and i think it should be the same for Crazy for You