elllipsis

@@maru
 
Channel V at Splendour in the Grass
 
 
 
 
This interviewer is SUCH a fangirl.
Also, when interviewers and interviewees constantly speak at the same time --->
 
Once again I need a little help figuring out a word/expression. It's roughly between 6:37 and 6:41, when the interviewer says "did you get any backlash from your ???, you know, reenactment?"; no idea what she says.
EDIT: Added it, thanks @@jess9715! I did not know that.

What can I say, I have no life I'm very generous.
 
 

@@maru
 
El País interview (translation from Spanish)
 
 
 
Cute interview. I had no idea she'd spent 4 months in Santander when she was 16! (I guess that last question & answer gives a bit more context to what she recently said re: Barrie + not knowing any "worthwhile" people; she's disillusioned... but yeah, this is OT so I'll just shut up, sorry.)
 
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I'll transcribe the one from Channel V at Splendour In The Grass now.
By the way, that interview in CatRadio is not in Spanish, it's in Catalan. That will probably... complicate matters.

@@maru
 
Channel V at Splendour in the Grass
 
 
 
 
This interviewer is SUCH a fangirl.
Also, when interviewers and interviewees constantly speak at the same time --->
 
Once again I need a little help figuring out a word/expression. It's roughly between 6:37 and 6:41, when the interviewer says "did you get any backlash from your ???, you know, reenactment?"; no idea what she says.
EDIT: Added it, thanks @@jess9715! I did not know that.

@@elllipsis
 
She asks "Did you get any backlash from your, that, Grassy Knoll, you know, reenactment?"
 
So much stuttering
 
The Grassy Knoll is where JFK was shot in Dallas, TX btw :)

What can I say, I have no life I'm very generous.
 
 

Next Libération interview
 

@@elllipsis You've joined six days ago and you're helping...

@@maru
 
El País interview (translation from Spanish)
 
 
 
Cute interview. I had no idea she'd spent 4 months in Santander when she was 16! (I guess that last question & answer gives a bit more context to what she recently said re: Barrie + not knowing any "worthwhile" people; she's disillusioned... but yeah, this is OT so I'll just shut up, sorry.)
 
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I'll transcribe the one from Channel V at Splendour In The Grass now.
By the way, that interview in CatRadio is not in Spanish, it's in Catalan. That will probably... complicate matters.

Ha, lots of us suck at doing that! S'all good though, it'd be really helpful if you could transcribe a thing or two; take a look here and remember to post which interview you're tackling so I can make note of it! 
 
@elllipsis, lola did the Sunday Times interview so if you haven't started or haven't finished, there is no need to start/finish it

I actually liked this interview.
 
I think people are seriously overreacting when it comes to the feminism quote. She's basically saying it's not her goal to provide social commentary or promote this or that female role via her songs - and quite rightly so. Nowadays, people seem to want to turn everything into a deliberate message or "guide to live your life by"; in my opinion, that's idiotic and not necessarily an artist's intention. She says she sings about her experience - real or imagined, that's irrelevant - and what appeals to her. If people want to interpret that and turn it into a generalizing think piece, that's their problem. People seem eager to turn her into a role model when she clearly has no interest in doing so - she refuses to discuss all the "hot topics" at length and shows prudence and restraint in her responses, yet people are still getting mad at her for what she didn't say and overanalyzing the little she did say.
 
Re: America. Well, I'm European, so my views on America and Obama are a bit different from those of most Americans, I'd imagine. I won't get into that since talking politics in discussion boards = fucking disaster. Suffice it to say that I'm actually quite happy she's not one of those "fuck yeah USA!!!" types. I love many things about America and I dislike others (which I think is pretty normal - the same thing applies to my own country!), but one thing that does not go over well with me is extreme patriotism / nationalism; I find it disturbing and dangerous. She actually seems quite moderate in her views and opinions, which is something I can respect.
 
Other than that, she plays her usual game and says whatever fits her current persona / mood the best. Sometimes she's more Lana Del Rey, sometimes she's more Elizabeth Grant. I kinda like that.

@lHundred Dollar Bill and @@elllipsis - thanks guys! And yeah, you can just post it here :3

Alright! I'll work on Rolling Stone. I just post it here when I'm done? 

@@maru - I'll start transcribing the 3FM radio interview (still not done, right?). I looked for the Sirius XM one but, like you, I can't find it anywhere; only the occasional newspaper article with partial transcriptions... Maybe we should try contacting the radio or something?

@@maru
 
3FM Radio
 
 
 
One minor thing: between 2:40 and 2:42 (between "it can change things" and "sort of"), I can't quite figure out what Lana says. It's not super relevant but if someone understands what's said, please let me know so that I can add it.
EDIT: Already added it, thanks @@lola!

Dig the landslide voting going on here! But of course dearest lola is very worthy and a key member in the LB community, if only for her second-biggest post whore status (hi ). But also for her boundless wit and her unamused avatar reflecting in all of her posts. Laugh cry puke and give it up for our most sassy jailbait...
 
Member of the Month: lola!
 


 

"I think if you have one really good song, it does...it can change things, can't it? Sort of"

@@maru
 
Mulberry x Lana - Poolside @ Château Marmont
 
 
 
 
La Boîte à questions
 
 
 
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I will definitely come here and pick more interviews to translate and/or transcribe tomorrow, but now I really need to get some sleep as it's almost 7am here.

The first one is a remix.

I think that's the bottom line, really. No matter how many different viewpoints are expressed in this thread, there is no correct interpretation, only different opinions based on different personalities and experiences. If it's already difficult to be absolutely certain of what someone means when they say something to us directly, that becomes practically impossible when all we have is a written interview (no body language, intonation, etc.) already dependent on a third party's interpretation and way of phrasing / conveying what was said.
 
It did make for a very interesting discussion, though.

I think that's the bottom line, really. No matter how many different viewpoints are expressed in this thread, there is no correct interpretation, only different opinions based on different personalities and experiences. If it's already difficult to be absolutely certain of what someone means when they say something to us directly, that becomes practically impossible when all we have is a written interview (no body language, intonation, etc.) already dependent on a third party's interpretation and way of phrasing / conveying what was said.
 
It did make for a very interesting discussion, though.

I disliked it more in her earlier interviews, where she claims that criticism is driving her to drink or some kind of self destruction. That was the low point for me. This article actually lifts my spirits relative to those points, because I think she is recovering from that. 
 
The rest is just a demonstration that people can read the same things with different perspectives. There is also some selective thoughts on EvilEntity's perspectives (given in French-like quotes).
 
<<Bringing up the subject of being criticized as anti-feminist, bitching about it, then expressing complacent views on feminism and denying obvious inspiration by female icons>>
 
The feminism issue was covered clearly, I think. She's in support of feminism, but not there, in her art, to support it. Her love-lorn songs are really typical of pop and to say that LDR means anything specifically anti-feminist by them is just "anti-her", because most everybody else is guilty of it. And "Ride" is just "her story", whether it be fiction or autobiographical. And songs like "push me down" or "making out" are not lifestyle recommendations but character studies. Liz Phair got it right in her "back-handed" support piece for LDR, which basically said LDR's expressing things of-interest-to-LDR and portraying herself in a persona of her choosing is defensible as "feminism". Maybe that's not exactly what Liz meant, but that's what I take her to mean (she didn't talk much about LDR's music, unfortunately). Here's the link:
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/02/04/liz-phair-on-why-lana-del-rey-scares-rocks-boys-club/
 
As for Female icons, I think she dyes her hair brown to be more like Norma Jean. I don't think she wants to promote her being the next Marilyn, although it's clear that she likes Marilyn, or Britney, or Nina Simone. I don't think she "emulates" any of them, but she likes them. Inspiration was not directly asked about, it was influence on LDR's (non-musical) style. 
 
<<Denying she cares about her appearance when she certainly does>>
What was implied to me was "that was then, this is now", or that her appearance is now uncomfortably an important feature of her professional life, but before her "breakout" she didn't take as much effort as she does now. What makes my assertion confusing (even to me) is that Lizzy Grant is (was?) still beautiful. She just wasn't a model or a superstar yet.
 
<<Stating she has a degree in metaphysics even though Fordham does not offer a degree in metaphysics (and as Maru pointed out there is some doubt whether she even graduated at all)>>
I believe she did graduate. I thought I remember seeing a sentence about "dropping out" removed from her wikipedia entry, because somebody actually went to the Fordham records and verified it, but when I looked at Wikipedia for discussion of it I couldn't find it.  BTW the degree would be in philosophy not metaphysics, but it's costumary for people to refer more specifically when describing what their degree is about. There is also a wikipedia page for notable Fordham Alumni, and she is listed in the entertainment section. 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fordham_University_people#Entertainment
 
Did she just attend or fully graduate? Well what's the evidence that she didn't graduate? I too was perplexed by the recent article quote about dropping out, but figured it as a fact check error.
 
<<Hurling accusations of media slander against her and her family about things she continues to lie about in the same breath>>
I think it was more the personal and musical character assasination of media reviews that hurt her and the slander came from the blogosphere. Go back and read the NY times, LA times, and Rollingstone reviews of BTD and come to your own conclusion.  LDR underestimates her influence in changing people's opinion of "5-star-critic" music reviews. 
 
<<Falsely claiming that she doesn't have money and that her family never had any money>>
Yes, rehab and college take money, but I think her focus of denial was narrower.  It's always been about her daddy buying her career that she denies. He probably helped her buy back the rights to AKA and supported her as a father would. Also she may not have had money at all times,  because she dropped off the parental radar by her choice.
 
 
<<Bitching about a lack of control of her image and how the media portrays her>> 
 
I like the paragraph about her public vs. private disconnect, because it possibly says something about where she wanted to go in popular music or what she wanted herself to mean vis a vis popular music. This is still an unresolved question for me.
 
LDR:
"There is a disconnect, yeah. I spent the last ten years in community service and writing folk songs. I don’t give a fuck about what I look like. Saying I came from billions of dollars is crazy. We never had any money. I feel, as a person who grew up reading about and being inspired by other figures with integrity, to kind of be turned into the antithesis of that is not what I planned. It’s the way it’s going right now, but I deal with it as it comes."
 
I like the allusion to Sirens (and Sirens-like songs). However, it's the last two sentences that interest me the most. It's hard not to see the "Lana Del Rey" persona as a foot-in-the-door technique to get popular, in a sense similar to Gaga, Adele, Perry, Kesha, and then to do something with her status. I don't consider this an authenticity rehash, as my thinking is that the persona was a tool to get noticed, but it's the quality of her work that got her famous. I'm hoping what she wanted to do with her status was bitch-slap the music business in the constructive sense of making it easier for diverse and retro kinds of music to become popular. Still words are vague. Is she talking about her public image at the crest of the negative hype wave, or her public image "right now" (as she appears to say). If it's her public image "right now", then there may have been something revealed, if that is the thing turning into the "antithesis" of what she planned. Crappy interviewer for not getting clarification or digging further.
 
 
<<Judgmental and pretentious statements that other people don't care about music/poetry/art as much as her and Barrie in the same interview she says music isn't her primary focus a pervasive attitude of defensiveness and victim-playing throughout>>
 
I'll recap part of that:
 
"Interviewer: You don’t feel you have a group of people in music who you necessarily connect to—a scene, let’s say, or a group of peers? What you talk about publicly and in interviews—say, listening to the The Doors or Dylan—it all seems “normal”. But I think what you do is not normal, actually.
 
Well, I thought so, too. I thought my tastes and likes were pretty normal, but then I met everyone and I was like, “These people don’t actually care about music and art. They want to be cool.” I never met anyone who cared about music as deeply as me and my boyfriend, or who really cared about poetry—who really lived it and breathed it. I haven’t met anyone so far. I just can’t affiliate with those people."
 
In an earlier post, I speculated she was forgetful, but maybe she's focusing too much on specific baddies and a specific kind of badness in baddies (such as hearing "the Doors and Bob Dylan, who are they?" or "no longer relevant" an awful lot). Also should we interpret the answer as including Rick Nowels and Justin Parker (that would be really interesting, if so). But at the end of the day, I really don't know how she's interpreting the words "scene", "peers", and "met", "those people". I don't even know if she heard all the words in the question (e.g., peer?), or had a chance to review the interview before it went to press. The interviewer is again crappy for not clarifying what is going to seem inflammatory later.
 
I understand why people are put off by this response, but at the same time I'm encouraged by it, because it should mean the next album will be "unpopular" in the sense of not trying to be popular but by following an artistic goal. I hope she continues to captivate people with her music, although apparently she's a "American Poet" now, so I'm guessing she means the lyrics are what's going to get better. But even if she doesn't captivate, at least the "integrity" she talks about, with regards to being an artist, is risking being unpopular. 

What a fabulous question. I think this is my favorite question ever asked on this forum. 
 
Do you...
 
have...
 
Snoop Dogg/Lion...
 
in your library...
 
of heads...
 
?
 
I want to go up to people on the street and pull them aside and ask them that. Or ask the bagger at the grocery store while s/he is bagging my groceries.
 
"Is plastic okay?"
"Actually, here, i brought my own bag. But i wanted to ask you...Do you have Snoop Dogg slash Lion in your library of heads?"
"I'm sorry?" 
"I'll take a paper bag if it all doesn't fit in my bag, thanks." 
 
It would also be great to to write it on those flags that planes drag across the sky: DO YOU HAVE SNOOP DOGG/LION IN YOUR LIBRARY OF HEADS? Imagine people sunbathing at a park, lying on their picnic blankets, looking up at the clouds and then seeing a plane fly by with that message. 

.... you guys are really annoying me and twisting words. no one here is like OMG IM DONE WITH LANA DEL REY IM LEAVING THE FORUM. 
 
we're allowed to have our opinions, just as you have yours. if you want to think everything she shits out is 100% gold, that's super cool but we're allowed to think otherwise, and that doesn't mean we aren't fans or that we don't support her. if we weren't fans, we wouldn't be on this forum. being a fan doesn't mean you're always LANA DEL REY IS MY QUEEEEEN etc. at the end of the day, I think it was a discussion ~ not any sort of uprising against Lana as some of you are making it out to be

Different people, different concepts of intimacy, I guess, but I'd much sooner answer the brand of tampon question or some other equally silly and ultimately harmless "invasive" question than talk about my political affiliation or any other type of ideology with some journo - especially considering our increasingly PC-obsessed / easily offended society. Even more so if I were famous; my motto would definitely be "not here for the drama".

See I think it's more about her, the "party girl" (there was actually an interesting article on ohnotheydidnt about the ~yacht girls~ of cannes and other glam locations!) explaining to the guy on her arm that she's just a party girl and not in it for love, she's just in it for the drinks, the glamour, and the danger, but even though she's explained that he's forgotten it and is getting attached?  I would take her "work" to mean just that, working the scene/using her body/charm as leverage.