GeminiLanaFan

I get that so much! I really hope she sticks to her plan of a surprise drop: no singles before, no snippets, just the album. I really love NFR, but the wait was excruciating.

Jack will be involved in the production of WHF for sure... but who knows if she won’t bring someone else along too? Rick sure will contribute to a couple of songs as well...

True, but she did the same with the LA to the Moon Tour: the set was slightly different from one venue to the other. She could very perform it in California and not again after it.

it really depends when she is at in her timeline, when she opens her mouth: at the planning stage or beginning, please don't have your life depend on it; but at the end of the project or when it's done, it's reliable, bonus points if she says it multiple times. As for the shows and her playing California, if she said it in her livestream, it's reliable, since they must have practiced it already (for the record, I didn't watch the integrity of her livestream and didn't get the part where she said she would perform California, so nobody @ me if she doesn't perform it live lol)

I agree . That song, surprisingly, has grown on me a lot. I just wish Apple Music would release her performance of the song at the Apple Event, then we would have the two official versions.

I said, last week, that if she includes Hey Blue Baby on WHF that it would feel a bit redundant with the blue reference of NFR... I take it back. Imagine WHF beginning with yet another track where she says she is blue... I’d love that!!! And it would be a nice reference to the last album.

Same! I often tell myself « I’ll go listen to one song in peculiar » and then the next one follows and I end up listening to the whole damn thing

It really depends if you like his style outside of Lana or not. Was it for the Kiss FM interview last week that she said that NFR had a singer-songwriter vibe and because of that, they didn’t want to go bombastic with the production? So the « minimal » production is a choice I guess. At the moment, I envision WHF as very folky (if they include the country songs and Yosemite). And I kinda see a continuation with NFR, if only for the name... Norman Fucking Rockwell... White HoT Forever

ok, so the rumor is still holding after a few days... I don't really care who she goes out with, but I can't help but wonder what happened with Chase. Weren't they together like a month ago?!?

At this point, a nomination would be everything. The Grammies are a rigged game as we know it, most of the time. However, to see Lana be nominated for AOTY would prove not only that she is now a force to be reckoned with, but also that she has fully proved that she is not what the music industry thought she was at first : a depressed voiceless marketed product. Billie could be nominated for New Artist, no? If so, it's her category. AOTY? She might be too young and still too new to reward her with such a prestigious win. But I don't know: I used to follow the Grammies very thoroughly but now, not so much. It's really all about popularity and campaigning.

Makes sense.

TNBAR: probably was a tag for the record company not to mistake it with the demo?!?FIILY: the song has two productions. The one in the video has drums but the one on vinyls and Cd doesn’t as much.

Bartender feels like the sequel to Swan Song...

I'm gay and a bit older and I don't know how I feel about her acknowledging her LGBT+ fanbase. It's cool when singers are supporting that part of the fanbase (like Taylor does) and I love that there are role models for younger LGBT fans out there. It's not always easy, being different, and to have someone say you have every right to be who you are and to have them fully support you makes all the difference in the world. However, I always have «concerns» or ask myself if the artist is authentic when he/she releases a song that is specifically targeted towards LGBT fans. I can't help but ask if the feelings are sincere of if it is just a cheap ploy to make profit out of us (like so many clothing companies do in May). As for Lana, one of the things I love about her is that she doesn't do anything like the rest of female singers. As I said, I am a bit older and I'm much at ease with my sexuality and orientation, so I am more into living my life and telling my story... And I identify so strongly with Lana's narrative in her songs that I don't feel the need to have a «gay song» specifically. As for her mentioning her «gay fans» in interviews, I don't know why she seems to dodge the question. Maybe she doesn't want to say something stupid and out of the place (it"s hard saying anything these days on any subject without being criticized) ans be criticized for it afterwards.

Her mood albums (UV-HM-NFR) truly form a holy trinity. I love that NFR is « its own thing » and not the lovechild of the two others.

Not NFR related, but is there a theme song already for Maléficent 2? Since she said she was working on Alice, I keep wondering if that is the only « Disney » (I assume it’s Disney) project she is attached to.

I kinda have a love-hate relationship with snippets this time around. I loved having them as teasers for both NFR and LFL. Plus she is good at what she is teasing: she never teases too much (even HIaB or Cinnamon Girl, we had a lot of the song and yet, it didn't feel like she had spoiled them). However, HTD was posted when it still was a demo and it took me many times to accept the new production. So, I prefer when she teases completely done tracks. However, with White Hot Forever, she said it'd be a surprise release: in my mind, it sounds like no snippets at all before release, or maybe one or two a couple of days prior.

Wait until she releases the triple MV in October: this thread will jump again.

Cinnamon Girl has «psychedelic» synths like VB and FIILY. Both of those tracks have drug references, and Cinnamon Girl has as well with the pills. But I see Cinnamon as a reference also for drugs... like Heroin, maybe?!? (I really am no expert on drugs other than pot, honestly, so I could totally be wrong) The song Golden Brown by the Stranglers is supposed to be about heroin, and I kinda saw a pattern with the color and cinnamon. That's why I don't think it's cinnamon in my tea, rather than «in my teeth», which works better for a dope reference.

Her shitty taste in men has sure produced some fine art!

The transition between the greatest and the last three tracks is amazing!!! Not only the song ends with piano and the others are piano-driven, but there’s also a subtle message: culture is done, I am « done »/ burn-out, let’s get back to basics, to simpler things. And Bartender has one the most beautiful storytelling of her career.

Lana looks hot for sure... but the video in itself is nothing special IMO.

At least we got that collab very near to NFR: imagine if it had been released this summer, in June, with no singles from the album (like we thought it would be at first, when we got the first snippet). We would have been fucking desperate for NFR in August

It’s what I was expecting of the song... Not bad, not fantastic... But Lana’s sort is bigger that I thought and is the best part. Freak 2.0, love it!!!

What?!?? They are both awesome! That user is also here and on YouTube (he makes great audio edits of her songs)I wonder what his sources are. If all of these are true, I am about to die!!! The National and Lana?!? Fuck me please!!! The Jesse collab is what I am dreaming of right now!