Marshmallow

Ohhhhh my god let me refrain from saying something mean/////
 
Guys jfc you don't just "oh let me upload this one nude to iCloud" that's not how it fucking works oh my god. It's a backup storage thing that, if you choose to use, stores ALL of the selected media (songs, photos, videos, etc). If you looked into any of the celebs reactions, you'd understand this.
 
Mary Elizabeth Winstead's pictures had long since been deleted, but the hacker somehow got ahold of them through iCloud. You're acting like it's just so simple to hack this system but it's not, which should be obvious since this is like the first major time something like this has happened?? Or at least been given this much media attention idk.
 
But fuck. Like, y'all are saying you don't judge or whatever that these people are taking nudes but then you have that superior undertone to the post anyway when you say "but they should've known better." Like, no they shouldn't have? It's their body and their phone and their private storage system that was hacked by some creep. They are not at fault. Fuck.

I'm all for ganging up on people but honestly I sorta agree with @@Electric Body. Like he said, it's not that I think it's slutty or morally backwards to take a few pics of your boobs or anything, not at all. And I'm sure none of them expected this to happen and feel really sorry for them that it did. But since it has happened, I have to say they were a little stupid for letting anyone get a hold of these pics. I'm not sure who they were intended for, if anyone, but they should have more sense then to just send these out to whoever. Also, you say they probably don't know what an iCloud is. I seriously doubt that, these are for the most part pretty young people that would know how to work an iphone. Secondly, if they didn't know about ICloud or they didn't know how easily someone could leak those pics, they shouldn't have taken em' in the first place. I'm not saying celebrities SHOULD have to worry about these sort of crimes, but unfortunately for them they DO. It's not at all fair that these people have their privacy invaded at this level, but now you're blaming this guy for something he was barely involved in. It was not these people's fault at all, but that doesn't mean it was ok for them to act as though they live in a world where this stuff doesn't happen. They knew the risks they were taking, and now they're victims not just of this crime but of there own foolishness.
Still, I hope they'll all be able to get over this blow and continue with their careers as unharmed as possible.

Yeah, was really stupid that I don't understand why you have to take "nudes" of yourself and put them onto your icloud. I mean, it's totally normal. I often have this situation where I think "oh gosh, why don't I have a nude pic of me right now". Putting them online is such a good idea. And it's even better if you are famous and many people have sweet wet dreams about seeing you nude and if it's not uncommon for celebreties being hacked.
 
Questioning this is really on the same level as racist and misogynic statements, thank you for pointing this out

I did not blame anyone, I just wondered why you would do something like this. like storing nudes at an iCloud. Of course I do think that it's a crime. But I alwys asked myself why people do this nude-stuff in the first place. Or more like, why you would upload this into an iCloud.

here are the images, my apologies!
 

 
 

 

Hello everyone! 
 
I have found another interview, forgive me if this has already been posted but I can't seem to find it anywhere else on the board.
I've done my best to translate it from French to English!
 
(Original Source here)
 
PS: The "OP Notes" are mine, just to elaborate certain quotes.
 
 
Q: Ultraviolence, why this title?
A: "The juxtaposition of "ultra", which gives a certain idea of luxury; and "violence" which, to me, reflects the sound of the album really well — it's chaotic but also street music. [OP note: In other words, the album has a very laid-back and down-to-earth feel.], melodic and sophisticating. Altogether then, [the word] Ultraviolence also means that I've lived between these two states; in my private life, a serene kind of love; in my professional life, a lot of negative press, in my opinion... "
 
Q: But sadness inspires you, no? 
A: "More so melancholy than sadness. This is where I've found amazing outcome, but I've also had many personal problems to overcome. I have a large family, lovely but complicated. I am responsible for my brother and my sister, who live with me. And I have some trouble moving from one world to the next." [OP Note: meaning, she has trouble finding balance between her personal and professional life.]
 
Q: You have also had some traumatizing years with regards to your problem with alcohol?
A: "Difficult, not traumatizing. You see.... I am alcohol-prone. In my family, we are all like that, through many generations. Drinking whiskey, it's in my genes! [laughs] As well as being a little off-the-wall."
 
Q: How did you cope with all the criticism about you? 
A: At the time, I was disappointed. When you release an album, you think it will go unnoticed [by the public], meaning, if it is listened to, it will be appreciated, [but] I never truly predicted that many people would listen to it, and that so many would have such bad things to say about it! As a result that means I've never made a single declaration [about it] because I didn't know what to say."
 
Q: Was it a masochist reaction?
A: "No, a lot of the attacks came from female journalists. I spoke to them, I knew what they thought. What's happened to me is a product of what journalism is today. The articles describe more the reactions from the critics listening to my music, [rather] than [focusing on] the songs themselves."
 
Q: Maybe it's because you like to take clichés and use them [appropriate them] for you?
A: "Exactly! In an interview they asked me, 'why do you speak about Marilyn Monroe or Elvis? It's really so cliché!' But I hardly know it because I lived in my own world for a long time. For me I have an intimate relationship with these stars. I've read and re-read their autobiographies. Like the man in my video, who is my tattooer, Mark Mahoney; someone who is very important to me, who has changed my life. In the video, "Tropico", there are also kitsch clichés."
 
Q: Your looks has changed, it's more rock... 
A: "They have criticized me, saying that I was fabricated, when I really wasn't all that different from any other girl. As a result, I tell myself that in showing myself more naturally, much like how I am in my life, the confusion will be less. At the same time, as soon as I want to prompt a reaction, I come across as the opposed, so..."

ugh ok regarding this whole hair pulling thing; we have no idea what actually went down, Lana might have planned to cut NA short for other reasons, you can't just assume that she was upset because of the hair pulling. plus, it's not fair to keep bitching about the person who did it, it could easily have been an accident where her hand got stuck in her hair and she tried to pull it out - loads of people try to touch Lana's hair, it's not something new. we don't know exactly what happened so it isn't fair to call that girl a bitch, it could have easily been an accident.
 
~anyway
 
unghhhhh I really want to buy the photos in this box set. I'm not bothered about the vinyls, I can live without them, but the photos look so good

+she probably spent days practicing rolling her n's for cariño.

Anyone else notice the subtle lyric changes and verse swaps? Pretty interesting to me. I can't stop playing the preview, it's a really well-done mix, honestly. Very subtle reggae-esque vibes and definitely fit for radio-play.

so after listening to the two different 4 minute versions i think this is the only way for me to describe the differences in the chorus 
 
i can see my baby swinging 
i can see my baby swinging 
i can see my baby swinging 
 
vs 
 
i can see my baby swinging 
i can see my baby swinging 
i can see my baby swinging 
 
i couldn't exactly pinpoint why i hated the second version but i think its cause the layering makes her sound robotic, if not somewhat militaristic 

To quote cimb:
 
1. 1st iTunes version - 4:15
Original version. This is on the official audio video. AKA Rob Orton mix
 
2. Dan Auerbach Radio Edit - 3:47
Vocals edited a little bit so that they're clearer, some vocal layers added/removed, last chorus cut
 
3. 2nd iTunes version - 4:16
Pretty much the same as the above version but with the last chorus. Lead sound during the last two choruses quietened.
 
4. Radio Mix (Swiss iTunes Store only atm) - 1:31 (currently) (Full version is 3:47)
Different instrumental (louder guitars, prominent drums), different vocal take, the song doesn't enter half time/change tempo for the chorus, 2nd verses (it all could happen/they got their movies) cut. It's a co-incidence that it's the same length as the Dan Auerbach version. The two are completely different.

It doesn't bother me when there's different versions of a song but it really bugs me that they never officially announce how many versions there is (like with Y&B) so you have to rely on fan compiled lists that for obvious reasons could be wrong to make sure you have all of them. It's such a simple thing to just upload a post to her website listing what versions are available and provide download links for them. After all they are trying to sell her music and if you don't make something easily attainable for a consumer they won't buy it.

The person I responded to do not understand why the need to change the sound of the song. 
And he does not know any other artist who does that.
 
 
I'm just pointing it out maybe because
 
A. The artist he likes is a flop who doesn't get radio play
 
Or B. An artist that already has radio candy music.
 
Nothing to do with taste or anything like that.
 
 
 
Because in reality MANY artists do so
 
Radio play is everything because you don't want to flop on a major label.
 
Lana is not some unknown indie artist.
 
 
She is A MAINSTREAM artist that makes non commercial music.
 
 
Basically, she's indie but successful.
 
She's grimes but successful hihi

Yes.
 
1. The original FLAWLESS mix
 
2. The lame lazy edit by Dan Auerbach for radio because apparently the original is not radio friendly.
 
3. The longer Edit of the horrible mix above.
 
4. THIs FLAWFREE real radio mix. 
 
2 & 3 should have never happened. They messed everything up including the performance of the song because they removed the original on itunes when they should have uploaded this real radio mix separately from the original and have two versions up.

>>>>>>> NEW VERSION FOUND <<<<<<
 
iTunes Switzerland, Germany, ...
 
https://itunes.apple.com/ch/album/west-coast-radio-mix/id870769451?i=870769463
 
 
It's going to be available on May 30th. WC (RADIO MIX)
 
 
Here it is on Soundcloud 
 
 
 
https://soundcloud.com/aaron-yates-16/1398961765a
 
 
(Thanks Aaron)

Congratz @, this'll be both awesome and a disastrous joining of two horrible procrastinators. Will send immediately so we both have ample time~
 
Catch it mid-May! Meanwhile read Rafael's.

i voted for myself even though i know maru's gonna win even before i saw the votes lmao

Aboot time. Give it up for Moy, LanaBoards' own social media dude, event organizer, shirt...guy, and meltdown haver. Thirst attracter? Someone help me with the glowing introduction tbh. w/e it was a pleasure to eye this for two weeks and finally to respond to it
(No really can't thank Moy enough for keeping us active and this is practically overdue. Enjoy!)
 
Member of the Month (March): Moy!
 

 

Everybody should vote for @ seriously  

Everybody should vote for @ seriously  

In honor of LanaBoards' 1-year anniversary this week, I thought I would share some of my sleuthing tips and tricks. Please contribute your own sleuthing tips in this thread.
 
Google Is Your Friend
You can force Google's search engine to return only results that include or exclude specific phrases by enclosing them in quotation marks and prepending a plus or minus sign respectively. For example, if you wanted to search for information on the song "Paradise" you might use something like the following search in an attempt to weed out results talking about Paradise Edition or "Dark Paradise": 
+"lana del rey" +"paradise" -"paradise edition" -"dark paradise" You can restrict your search to a particular site by including site:URL in your search query where URL is the URL of the particular site to search. For example, if you wanted to find every mention of Lana Del Rey on Hipster Runoff you might try this search:
site:hipsterrunoff.com +"lana del rey" You can also restrict your search to particular types of files by including filetype:EXT in your search query where EXT is the file extension type to search for. In fact, in trying to come up with a good example for this post, I stumbled across a PDF scan of a 2008 article on Lizzy Grant that appeared in the Lake Placid News using the following search: 
filetype:pdf +"lizzy grant" Probably the most powerful and necessary Google search feature for Lana sleuths is the ability to do custom date range searches. If you're looking for information from before her rise to fame, it is absolutely essential. I'll often date restrict searches to results before January 1, 2011 or something like that. You'll still get more recent results from pages that were created before that date, but have now changed or pull current data into sidebars, etc., but you'll still weed out a lot of results you don't care about by doing this. After performing a search, you can date restrict the results by clicking on 'Search tools' and selecting 'Custom range...' in the 'Any time' dropdown menu. You can leave either the 'From' or 'To' fields blank if you wish. Reverse image searching is another incredibly powerful feature Google provides. Enter the URL of an image you wish too search for and click 'search by image' and Google will find similar images. You can often find a higher resolution version of an image or find where the image originally came from this way. Try searching on variants of her name (i.e. lizzy grant, lizzie grant, lana del rey, lana del ray, etc.) appropriate to the era you're investigating. CalendarGirl originally found the live video of the rock version of "Yayo" here searching on "lizzie grant" instead of "lizzy grant" after I mentioned this to her. (Note: you may want to include -"entourage" in your search query if searching on "lizzie grant".) If you don't know what to look for, try looking for something known. If I recall correctly, I believe I originally found the Nefarious Bovine Radio podcasts with a search query that included +"pawn shop blues" and +"mp3" in the hopes that matching results might also include Lana songs I didn't already know about. Sometimes you get lucky.  
Archive.org Is Your Friend
The Wayback Machine at archive.org is an archive of snapshots taken of many web pages in the past. This is an incredibly useful tool since many sources of information about Lizzy's early career are not on the live web anymore for one reason or another, but can still be found on archive.org. There's a lot of information we wouldn't have without it. Familiarize yourself with it. It's indispensable. In addition to using archive.org to look at particular web sites, you can also see all the files ever archived under a particular web directory by appending an asterisk at the end. This is how I was able to find the performance photos taken by NBR that Television Heaven posted before he even said where they came from. Since I recognized the NBR logo, I went to archive.org and typed nbr.rathpa.net/* into the Wayback Machine and filtered the results by jpg to look for images. Since many of the files were named by date, it was easy to find them since I already knew the dates of the performances. The asterisk trick can also be very helpful in exploring the current site architecture of a page on the live web if it has been recently archived. Checking if a page has been archived often appears to trigger the Wayback Machine to archive unarchived pages, so if you stumble across something interesting, it's wise to check if the page is archived in the hopes that the Wayback Machine will archive it if it hasn't already so that it doesn't disappear forever. (BTW, I'm unaware of any way to keyword search Wayback Machine archives. If anyone knows of a way, please let me know.)


Screenshots.com Is Your Friend
When archive.org doesn't have any snapshots of a site from the time period you'd like, sometimes screenshots.com will help you out. Unlike archive.org, screenshots.com does not archive the files making up the web site, but merely takes a screenshot image of it. Sometimes this is desirable since it avoids the common problem of missing image files when viewing archive.org snapshots. But screenshots.com only takes full screen screenshots, not full page screenshots. Another severe limitation is that it only captures second-level domain names. In other words, home pages but nothing under them. For example, screenshots.com has screenshots of myspace.com, but not myspace.com/lizzygrant. Thankfully, it does capture redirects from second-level domains. We still have a lot of snapshots of Lizzy's MySpace page because she owned several domain names that redirected to it.


Various Exploits
Pay attention to the URLs for images. If the filename ends with a number that could be a pixel dimension, it may have been sized down. Try the URL without the pixel dimension number at the end. Sometimes this will yield the original image in its original dimensions. Otherwise, if the filename ends with a number, try adjacent numbers (especially if there are multiples photos close in number but with numbers skipped). You may find additional photos that have been uploaded to the server but not displayed on the page. Flickr allows users to disable downloading of photos. However, you can get around this easily by viewing the page source and looking for the image's URL in the HTML. (You can also get around this using any tool that shows your network traffic like Chrome Developer Tools as described below.) Occasionally a Flash slideshow will read an XML file containing the URLs of the images it plays. It may be worth extracting the URL of the SWF file by viewing the page source and examining the results of running it through a free online Flash decompiler like showmycode.com in order to discover details like this. If it's a Javascript slideshow, the URLs can probably found directly in the page source code. (In both situations, you can also likely using any tool that shows your network traffic like Chrome Developer Tools as described below.) As a Lana fan, it can be a common occurrence to find yourself frustrated by privatized YouTube videos. Although I know of no way to view a privatized video, it is possible to obtain several stills from one using the following URLs where VIDEO_ID is the YouTube ID of the video:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VIDEO_ID/0.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VIDEO_ID/1.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VIDEO_ID/2.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VIDEO_ID/3.jpgFor example, consider the YouTube video at the following URL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPBUp9xZr_EThe following URLs display stills from this YouTube video:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rPBUp9xZr_E/0.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rPBUp9xZr_E/1.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rPBUp9xZr_E/2.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rPBUp9xZr_E/3.jpg You can also use the Google YouTube API to get information about a privatized video by entering the following URL:
http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/VIDEO_ID?version=1For example, using the same video as before, entering the following URL tells us the title is "Lana Del Rey! Pin Up Galore" and that the length is 1:06:
http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/rPBUp9xZr_E?version=1You can try different versions of the API in case they display more information. The current version of the API is 3. Google's Chrome web browser has an incredibly powerful and flexible built-in feature (the Network tab in the Developer Tools window) that you can harness to download the actual audio or video files that stream from many sites including Soundcloud, Bandcamp, and Reverbnation just to name a few. (In fact, no one should ever have to ask anyone on this forum for a rip of a Soundcloud file ever again since I teach you here how to download the file directly from Soundcloud yourself. One exception: I discovered this method after the Soundcloud account I found "Prom Song (Gone Wrong)" on was taken down so if anyone downloaded it using this method I'd appreciate it if you would send a link my way.) Select the tab in which the page with streaming content is loaded. In Chrome's menu, click Tools -> Developer tools. The Developer Tools window should appear. Click the Network tab at the top of the Developer Tools window. Begin playback of the audio or video. The Network tab should populate with filenames of the files your browser is downloading. Hopefully the audio or video file streamed will be among them. It is easier to pick out if you sort by Type or Size. If the streaming file began loading before the Developer Tools window was opened, you may have to refresh the page and restart the audio or video. Once you have identified the filename, right click and open the link in a new tab. In the new tab, you should be able to right click and select "Save as...". This method does not work on sites like MySpace that do not directly stream a file and use Flash or some other technology to deliver content more securely. However, some such sites (unfortunately not MySpace) will directly stream files if Flash is disabled. To disable Flash in Chrome, open another tab and enter chrome colon slash slash plugins in the address bar (for some reason it won't display here if I type out the colon and slashes). One of the plugins listed should be Adobe Flash Player. Click the "Disable" link. (Remember to enable it later.) Now reload the page and restart the streaming media in the other tab. Some sites will also only directly stream files if you are using a device known to not support Flash such as an iPhone or iPad. Chrome also provides a way to fool web sites into thinking you are on such a device. Click on the gear icon in the bottom right hand corner of the Developer Tools window to bring up a Settings page for the Developer Tools window. Under settings, click Overrides. In the Overrides settings check the User Agent box and select "iPad — iOS5" in the dropdown. (Remember to change it back to the original setting later.) Now reload the page and restart the streaming media in the other tab.  
Keep an Eye on the "Industry Players"
Many of Lana's songs, including several found by me, surfaced because they were publicly posted-- intentionally or not-- by Lana's producers or management:
"Prom Song (Gone Wrong)" was posted on a now (probably inadvertently) public Soundcloud account for Three Six Zero Productions (account now defunct) on which the "National Anthem (Nexus demo)" and "Driving In Cars With Boys" had also been posted. (Was this the original source of those songs? I don't know.) "Stoplight De-lite" and the studio version of "Motel 6" were intentionally posted by Jeff Peretz on his website. (A little over a month earlier, I discovered he had produced Lizzy Grant doing a Google search.) Though it has not been removed, the alternate version of "Hit & Run" was posted on Soundcloud by producer Tommy Tysper. (I followed clues from a screenshot of an old post on Lizzy's personal Facebook by another producer he often works with that mentioned "Tommy".) The "Ride" string arrangement was posted on Soundcloud by Daniel Heath. And of course, the Y&B demo, JFK, "Starry-Eyed", "Hollywood", IDWG, "Black Beauty" & AFFA were all infamously posted by Rick Nowels in inadvertently public directories his website. (I discovered those directories back in April looking at the URLs of the files streaming on his site using the Chrome Developer Tools trick.) And those are just the ones I found on producers' websites or Soundcloud accounts. "Dangerous Girl" was also posted on Soundcloud by Daft Dog, Blockhead posted "Heavy Hitter" on his blog, Princess Superstar posted alternate versions of "Maha Maha" & "Golden Grill", and Ben Mawson himself posted demos of TIWMUG, BTD, NA & "Lolita" on his (probably inadvertently) public Soundcloud account. And there have probably been other songs that originally surfaced in a similar manner.


Contacting People
Sometimes in the course of sleuthing you may find it necessary to contact someone. I recommend following these suggestions:
Think twice before contacting anyone. Always keep in mind that you may be imposing on people by asking them questions about Lana. Be polite. People are doing you a favor just by entertaining your questions, let alone if they answer any of them. Return the favor by being polite. Use flattery. People are more receptive to you if you show an interest in them or their work. However, try to be genuine. Whenever I contact another artist about Lana I make a point of reading or listening to their work until I find something I genuinely like that I can compliment them on. Sometimes following these tips can yield unexpected results. Respect people's privacy. You shouldn't pry into anything personal. Let them decide if they want to volunteer anything. Avoid contacting romantic interests. Respect people's privacy, especially if they are not a public figure like Lana. If you do find the need to contact someone you know or even suspect might have been involved with Lana, avoid asking questions about their relationship.  
Pay Attention
I've had my share of luck as well, but a lot of sleuthing comes down to noticing details, making connections, and following up on things.

Good luck and happy sleuthing!

Although the comment is really old, if you want I can tell you about this.
Lana is familiar with these concepts and is aware of them, but only shallowly, she doesn't get them. Can't use them. It's even talked about in one of her lyrics, I think it's from Starry Eyed: "They say make Lemonade out of lemons I tried but I just can't understand it"
And if you look at the way she acts, like holds grudges etc. she really does not get it.
She talked about this interest of her in interviews and she did read the book "Ask and It is given", which is a book written by the person speaking in that video.

Hey so back to actual self-help, I was scrolling through lana's youtube feed and first video it shows her having "liked" was this

 
It sounded pretty self helpy so I did a little research and found
 
 
So maybe Lana attended these seminars or was interested in the program as a whole?