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Lana and Gaga at the same event 
 

Tell you the truth, I believe Lana lost some of her edge on HM, which might be why I'm not too into it. The controversy and campy topics surrounding her songs kind of fuels my fire for her. HM is toned down in all aspects compared to her previous works in my opinion. It's not a horrible album, it's just not as edgy as I'd like it to be. I guess you could say Lana is at her best when she gets a lot of criticism
 
Anyways, I think Ultraviolence is her best album. I have never listened to an album as much as UV, and that may or may not change. But I am very certain that I would not have the same response to HM if it was released instead of UV. People on here are very receptive to Lana's music. We want to love HM as much as UV, but it just doesn't do it for a lot of us.

Tell you the truth, I believe Lana lost some of her edge on HM, which might be why I'm not too into it. The controversy and campy topics surrounding her songs kind of fuels my fire for her. HM is toned down in all aspects compared to her previous works in my opinion. It's not a horrible album, it's just not as edgy as I'd like it to be. I guess you could say Lana is at her best when she gets a lot of criticism
 
Anyways, I think Ultraviolence is her best album. I have never listened to an album as much as UV, and that may or may not change. But I am very certain that I would not have the same response to HM if it was released instead of UV. People on here are very receptive to Lana's music. We want to love HM as much as UV, but it just doesn't do it for a lot of us.

BTD sales/UV sales/HM sales: It's easy for me to think that the negative hype wave attached to LDR in the early days actually propelled her sales, given the idiocy of general criticism, which was so obvious to the GP. UV sales might have ridden the tail of that a bit, but the music (and Auerbach association) probably intrigued the GP (and of course critics were desparately trying to regain credibility from the BTD era). What I most remember about UV is that singles were very strong artistically (but not sales) for pop singles. With HM the singles don't seem as natural, or strong, as "pop" singles, although I guess it would be a film-noir style as opposed to desert rock. It's also weird how higher metacritic scores go with lower sales for LDR, although higher metacritic ratings may generally go with lower sales for artists, idk.
 
LDR reconsidering pop: She should definitely do this both in more conventional and less conventional terms. Her pre-BTD work is worth legitimizing in new releases as well as newer work. If she took a conquer by multiply rather than a conquer by divide approach I'd be happier, but my feeling reflects the fact that I'm more impressed by her diversity, so I consider songs like Noir, Axl Rose Husband, Fordham Road to be just as desireable as "pop" songs as her more reasonable examples, such as Queen of Disaster, Behind Closed Doors, Making Out. 
 
HM songs are similar or she sounds bored: I don't get this as much as other people. On the other hand, I love her May Jailer work, and HM is sort of like May Jailer produced by Beck. Are there people out there that love Beck's Morning Phase (which also seems a little May Jailerish, produced by Beck, of course), but are still underwhelmed by HM? What about people who love Goldfrapp's Tales of Us, which is also in the genre of softer, similar-sounding (within album) dream pop. Just curious. I also don't play all of HM in a single sitting; I play more the two halves (dividing it at BN) or specific song clusters. And the problem I have with playing an artist to the exclusion of other artists (at least for me and with this artist), is that I'm continually assessing LDR (e.g., figuring out why and how much I like her), which implies, for me, listening to other artists (as well as other genres of music) while I listen to her.
 
Lazy lyrics and lyrical topics: I believe this depends on how far you go in considering lyric origins, meaning, or  what "spin" you can put on them. I'm not saying all her lyrics/topics are repairable, but I'm not sure all cited examples of cringeworthy lyrics and topics are always due to laziness. So, for example, the song Religion, might cause people to grate their teeth if they think of her singing about worshipping some guy. However, there is enough ambiguity in the song to suggest she could be singing about her relationship to "religion" and has purposely disguised that fact (so it won't be played on Christian radio?). Would that count as lyrical cleverness, perversion, or both? As another example, say somebody doesn't like the use of random words being thrown out in the chorus of Salvatore "Cacciatore, Limousines, Ciao amore, Soft ice cream", but if that is seen as part of an homage to or an exploitation of another lyricist's technique ("A mullato, an albino, a mosquito, my libido") does that make it any better?  Maybe the use of trigonometry in The Blackest Day is lazy in the sense that a lot of songs use that term, but then again maybe it's just one of those (random?) postmodern references she is prone to. BTW, if you type "trigonometry in lyrics" in google you get as first hit:
 
http://www.lyrics.net/lyrics/trigonometry
 
which will get you a list of songs/artists that use the term in a song, a neat feature of that website. 

I personally feel that Ultraviolence sold because of the music. West Coast is one of Lana's best songs of all time, and that includes her unreleased.
I guess you could say that Born to Die helped in the way that it got her name out to the GP, but I really think a lot of people liked the change that Ultraviolence brought, and it opened her up to different audiences.
Honeymoon lacks energy & longevity. When I first got into Lana I had BTD on repeat for MONTHS, the same goes for UV when it released. When HM came out I was playing different artists hours later (opposed to weeks like the previous albums)
 
Honeymoon was underwhelming, and to even some, incredibly boring. The lyrics weren't fantastic and it was sooo slow.
High By the Beach was only okay, but again, not the best. Terrence Loves You was incredibly beautiful, but again, slow.
A decent chunk of the songs on HM sound similar, and she sounds bored throughout the whole album. It's an amazing album though, but I'm already bored with it tbh

Now that we know Honeymoon isn't the hit of the year, Ultraviolence looks like it was a huge success. And it was, actually. Its success is very underrated. I mean, it was almost unaccessible for those casual fans who liked Born to Die, and promotion was messy, but it still sold 1 500 000+ copies worldwide (more than people like John Legend, Maroon 5 and Ariana Grande). Also, it got Gold and Platinum certifications in big markets like the U.S., U.K., Australia, Canada, Germany, Brazil and more. Obviously, the hype it got for being "Born to Die's follow-up" was enormous, and that helped a lot...

 

But, what if Honeymoon was Born to Die's follow-up? What if Ultraviolence was pop?

 

What if something like "Hit and Run" or "Live or Die" was the first single instead of the legendary masterpiece "West Coast"?

 

What I want to know is... Was Born to Die's hype what made Ultraviolence relevant and successful? Did its incredible quality help? Could have it been bigger with a poppier sound? And, would you like Lana to release her "first documented official pop album"?

The whole song sounds like Sad Girl. Honestly when I heard MTWBT the first I expected for her to say "PBiiiiieeeeeeing a mistress..." . The instrumental is so similar too. 

So according to the Billboard interview, Lana had a love affair before Francesco. Does that mean Lana cheated on Barrie, or is this mystery guy cheater....or both? Is UV about this love affair?? "Being a mistress on the side..." Am I totally missing this???
 
EDIT
I read it again, I guess she is referring to Barrie, but the "love affair" part of the question threw me off.

I think you got the wrong forum. So you're gonna wanna go down the hall, turn left, take the stairs down to the basement, and they'll be a sparkley door labelled "GAGA BOARDS"

Mommy's Mercedes or Billy's pick up truck (Driving In Cars With Boys)
Pick me up in a pickup truck (Raise Me Up)

Let's be frank, I really doubt Lana will win any Grammy at all. Grammy is rubbish in my opinion, like 90% of the artists who won Grammy anyway. You don't need Grammy for approval. Lana is one of those artists that deserves more than any award out there. I'm happy for her if she'll win any, but I couldn't care less. Grammy's opinion is rubbish anyway!
 
P.S. I think Lana should move to Island rather than this stupid record label. It's stupid!

It's been spoken about before in interviews, I believe Dan Auerbach talked about it in one of his.
From what I remember, Interscope hated Ultraviolence and wouldn't release it unless Lana met with a producer (I think it was Paul Epworth?) they wanted her to work with. She showed up late to the meeting, and while they were waiting they played UV for him and he said he loved it & wouldn't change it, but he ended up producing Black Beauty
So I think they hated UV and wanted her to redo it until the guy they wanted to do it said they shouldn't or something idk

ultraviolence actually had a chance. honeymoon doesn't, imo.

Got it :D 

This thread is kinda out dated, but I want to find a high quality photo of this
 
I really want to put this photo on a big-ass canvas or something, and then hang it up on my wall. It's so beautiful, it's the perfect photo to put on my wall.

I'm kind of slipping away from HM... I'm reliving the UV era again though 

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I'm kind of slipping away from HM... I'm reliving the UV era again though 

I'm kind of slipping away from HM... I'm reliving the UV era again though 

I'm kind of slipping away from HM... I'm reliving the UV era again though 

Got it :D 

I'm kind of slipping away from HM... I'm reliving the UV era again though 

Honeymoon is dead and no longer breathing.

This thread is kinda out dated, but I want to find a high quality photo of this
 
I really want to put this photo on a big-ass canvas or something, and then hang it up on my wall. It's so beautiful, it's the perfect photo to put on my wall.