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Disagree. 'NFR' was echo praised. It's legit overrated. I still firmly believe critics echo each other most of the time, and they definitely did on 'NFR'. I would agree that songs like 'MAC' and even 'VB' were praised upon release, rightfully so I might add, but the rest of the album is quite frankly almost entirely forgettable the production/mastering of the album didn't press any buttons. But this also happens to be Lana's least Lana Del Rey-esque album, on which they tried to incorporate as much "Lana clichés" but without any sparks whatsoever. This also happens to be her most uneventful and least polarizing album too. No wonder critics praised it as much, they didn't like what Lana had to offer to begin with. Perfect case of an artist having to conform to her most vicious haters in order to fit in. The conversations/discussions I've had here with other fans, as well as on other platforms and my friends outside of this community, many of whom have been long time fans, they all tend to say that while this album is indeed good, it's nowhere near the brilliance of her earlier work, it really that beige. Also, I've seen many people comment on the possibility of Lana going back to work with Jack for her next project, and even people that claimed to be fans of the album were skeptical and also quite critical of the idea of Jack and Lana to collab once again. Also, didn't you actually dislike the album upon release and were really critical about the whole thing too? I don't know. I mean I remember a lot of your comments about that here and there and I actually befriended you over these comments because I would agree with a lot of what you wrote! Time changes.

Critics are full of shit and echo each other big time and them praising one album over the other doesn't mean shit. It's complete fallacy to pretend that all of sudden critics giving credit to Lana over one album actually means something and the other albums not receiving the same treatment is the reason why people don't like 'NFR'. Look at you acting all matter of factly. If people don't like the production of 'NFR' maybe the production on 'NFR' is that "lackluster, beige, flat, etc bullshit" like you said.

Lmao good for you!

If you don't hear Lana being obviously off key, no wonder you think that NFR is better than Honeymoon. I'm sorry, but Honeymoon sounds absolutely perfect, NFR sounds choppy at best.

With its half-baked production, tinny piano, white noises and Lana sounding hella off key when she goes for that high note in the second pre-chorus. Sure.

I co-signed this.

I wrote an entire essay about how much this album is still not it to me, but it's whatever. NFR is still not it to me and the production is still bland and lifeless as far as Lana records go. I still don't care for Jack's input in here. Not interesting or groundbreaking in the slightest. I'm glad he enjoys his company in the studio, but I'll never get the appeal. Also this thread is dead. Thank you for coming to me TED Talk.

Why is this thread so silent... Wasn't it supposed to be the best album ever released? Even with her lost Grammys and that NME awards, where you at hardcore NFR stans?

I personally want to Lana to get all the recognition in the world, but to me (and I honestly don't care about Billie Eilish, like at all) I want Lana to win awards for an album that's actually outstanding and deserving of praise, and NFR wasn't that album for me. It's honestly become overrated at this point. I venture to say that Billie is also overrated for the type of music she puts out, but like I said, I don't care for her, she can win all the awards the industry wants to give her, I still don't care.

I went back to listen to the album after almost a month of not listening to a single songs off of it... I still stand by what I wrote on here. The album is just not that interesting to me, the production and sound of the album is very poor in comparison to all of Lana's previous work (even Lust for Life at this point). I don't see the lyrics as being that superior, Honeymoon still has the outstanding lyricism in my view. Songs like The greatest, Venice Bitch, MAC and the title track (even though I can't stand Lana going off key in the second pre-chorus and that cheap/tinny poorly recorded piano) are still the best songs on this album. The rest of the album is quite frankly almost entirely forgettable. I simply do not care for Lana DIY/amateur wannabe vagabond poet from the Valley approach to her art on this era, it's uninteresting, plain and characterless.

Disagree. She clearly inspired people in the likes of Lorde, Halsey and Billie Eilish. Not saying she paved the way for every single alternative artist, but it's clear that Born To Die was very influential to some of the most popular acts that "came" after her.

Thank you! I was honestly considering starting one lel.

I know this is an unpopular opinion thread, but Lana's legs are fucking perfect! They deserve their own appreciation thread!

I didn't follow the whole thing, but she posted stuff on her instagram stories, calling out Lana (yet again) for her looks/plastic surgery and a bunch of other stuff. I brushed it off because Azealia is pathetic imho, but her comments about Lana losing her appeal had me thinking of Lana not caring about her aesthetics as much nowadays.

I find her to have a beautiful physique personally speaking, she looks healthy. Gtfo.

There was clearly an effort put into her outward appearance and aesthetic (both "physically" and as far as visuals go) and it's pretty obvious these days that Lana doesn't care about that anymore. I'm not saying that I miss her long nails and big hair and her always looking like she's straight outta some 50s/60s movie or pin-up-y. I understand her not necessarily wanting to have a high maintenance look on a daily basis, but like from 2011 to 2016 there was at least a minimal effort put into her look and visuals and since Lust for Life Lana has been looking, for a lack of a better word, very pedestrian and basic (except on certain occasions like the 2018 Grammys and Met Gala, or very few stage looks) but for the most part the visual aspect of her appeal is just kinda lost these days.

Well, Azealia is absolute trash. But I do feel as though, Lana has sort of lost her initial appeal. The mysterious/glamorous image is long gone that's for sure.

Perhaps.

OMG WHO ARE YOU! T A S T E ! This song is my jam:

She literally pulled two looks the day before, but attented the Grammys looking like someone's plus one and not an actual AOTY nominee. I know a lot of people find her "mall dress" story very endearing and relatable, but to me her look was still underwhelming and that dress was still ill fitted and beige.

Yes, me too. Her Grammys' look is not worth posting about, unlike what she looked like back in 2018.

That's my fault. Too bad I didn't record the snippet properly, but I did what I could.

My two autographs. I guess they're rare because she signed my name on one of them.

"Goddamn, man child" has never rang so true.

IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK