West Coast

Didn't Lana say that doing things again, she would definitely make Paradise its own thing, like not some sort of EP off Born To Die though? No wonder it sounds different, it was meant to sound different and not be in the "same realm".

Her shows are just so casual and lazy these days... there's literally nothing in there that makes up for what she charges to assist. Agree with everything you said, we're not all rich enough to attend dozens of shows a year. For me personally, going to her show, or a show, is a treat, not something casual. I can honestly think of a couple modern acts that are as, or nearly as, popular as Lana and actually put effort into their shows and make it much more worthwhile than the Norman Fucking Rockwell Not So Norman Fucking Rockwell Tour.

It goes with everything she does though. Having fans that sorta worship you at an altar, and give you a license to kill might do that to you. This "Lana can't do no wrong" mindset from a lot of fans is toxic, and doesn't build the ground for thoughtful and animated discussions about the state of things. And that goes for more than just her shows and what they might encompass.

Fair enough

Agree about the clothes, they are not that ugly per se. But they are not concert material for sure. But as of 4,6 and 7... didn't she throw a fit because she lost her vape? And also got upset twice at fans for not knowing the lyrics? Like that's her job to do that lmao.

So let me get this straight: 1. She can't perform for more than an hour and fifteen minutes at most (and that's when she feels like performing for more than an hour and not cutting down on show time). 2. She literally shows up late to each and every concert. 3. Has an eponymously named tour, and performs like 5 songs at most from the album. But decides to recycle the same setlist from her past three "tours". Instead of singing new songs, she does covers and brings people on stage to take the attention away from her (which I'm not actually complaining about she actually brought (or will bring) Legends on stage with her! But it actually cuts down on show time, which could be use to perform newer songs). 4. Either does small acapella versions of the other songs from the album and/or relies on fans to remember the lyrics and has this "fuck it" attitude when they don't seem to remember them, nor does she seem to remember her own lyrics herself... 5. Shows up on stage with the ugliest, most grandma-ish, Little House On The Prairie meets The Handmaid's Tale clothes she can find (her style on stage is debatable though) 6. Seems to be flustered or annoyed to be on stage. #vapegate 7. Not always on top of her game as far as vocals go. Also, doesn't she seem to care for hitting notes and relies heavily on the ever loud backtrack or her tour lyfe babiesTM to take over. 8. Seemingly only interacts with the same five stans that literally attend every single one of her shows (that's on her, but it sucks for people who are looking forward to that one interaction with her for the first time (and also probably the only chance they got too)). 9. Ridiculous price tags for her ugliest, most lackluster merch to date (literally stuck a "Venice Bitch" patch on a Dickies jacket, tagged it 150$ and called it a day ) What a time to be alive and be a Lana stan. She never was the most amazing live act, but there was somewhat an attention to detail, or she actually seemed to enjoy performing for her fans. But it's all gone downhill... wow.

Tour lyfe babies

Céline Dion is a professional chanteuse through and through! Lana can't relate.

I will forever find funny how there legit are stans out there that use Pitchfork/Metacritic scores as proof of her success or so called greatness on this record. The sucky scores she got for her past albums didn't stop anyone from actually enjoying them at the time of their release and then some, didn't it? I can't with these people that are basically agreeing that all of a sudden Lana finally released a great album, same critics that not only did they only judged her so called persona in these reviews, but never actually gave her the credit she rightfully deserved for her songwriting and melodies/production on her past releases. Fucking laughable.

This whole "White Hot Forever will be NFR 2.0" is actually pretty disappointing and lazy. I legit hope they: a) change that cheap microphone b) hire an actual sound engineer to get rid of the white noises, tinny piano notes, to basically avoid all the other cheap/amateur-ish recording mistakes that were made on this record. c) actually use some bass in the instrumentals to avoid that flat sound.

who the fuck gives her these hideous outfits??

Alex better stop talking cause she'll end up in a ditch much like Stella ( ).

really??

I saw that too! I'm guessing it's not going all too well in the realm of tour lyfe... can't wait to see how this plays out

Thanks for quoting me, luv x

I'm honestly starting to genuinely believe that this bitch hates touring, let alone performing. You know what Lana, you could just release your music, then go into obscurity with your sorority sisters and only appear in public when you visit that church and go out to take your matcha whatever. She's honestly doing herself a disservice right now, I genuinely feel like there are more and more fans that are getting tired of her lazy approach to literally everything. Not a hater, just stating a fact. It's just lacking in general these days, it seems...

This one is about the half/mediocre performance of HIAB, this one is about a fan leaving the show early because it was super disappointing. More or less related, but this one is about the ridiculous price tags for her merch this tour. There are a couple of other threads regarding the lackluster shows, but they are from the first two shows though.

Read a lot of comments on Reddit about people being... let's say less than impressed by tonights show. Lana seems to he going on a downward spiral with her live performances these days...these shows ain't it, sooo unequal.

Ngl I never really understood the fascination with Cherry... I mean it's a good song, and it sounds somewhat great live, but I feel like people only like it because she says "bitch" and "fuck" in it, and also because she does the slutdrop when performed live... anyway, like you said very 2017.

and all the gays in the audience went batshit

Serving Laura Ingalls realness

I think it's fair to say that Win, Hunter something, @@Ultraviolence on instagram and that Cody guy, they have all pretty much set the bar real high in terms of concert attendance.

I feel like a lot of people find his behaviour (as well as the other group of fans that comes with him (he's got a group of friends that do the same thing)) a little creepy. It's cool to have the money to attend all her concerts, but it comes across as stalker-ish, but that's merely my opinion. But why does he get hate and the others don't? Tbh I've heard stories of how him and his friends (Hunter Marie something I think? and other people too), they just get in the way, push, shove, are just downright rude to other fans, just so they can get front and center at the barricade and get that millionth selfie with Lana. Granted, people are usually rude and pushing in the pit at her shows, but since he seemingly attends every single one of her shows, he gets the blame.