West Coast

Suddenly all these mistakes and amateur-ish mishaps are considered like purposeful artistic decisions? I mean, at this point they will just say whatever to try and elevate what was a very lackluster album production and mixing and try to make it sound deep and artistic. Looking back at her previous albums, that's just baffling, even Lust for Life was more intricate in some regards (just on a production point of view to be clear).

and also you guys need to learn the difference between hating on an album and thinking the album is actually great, but the production is just extremely lackluster.

did not know that Jack worked on both Honeymoon and Ultraviolence?

Seriously though... what is it that actually makes you think that Jack is like legit a good producer? I'm genuinely concerned.

You can smack talk all you want Jared, we don't need to "elevate" Honeymoon as it already sits atop her discography. Also you're a Jackoff Stroganoff stan like???

When it's already on top? You're literally a Jack Antonoff stan like... is that what you mean by "All propaganda with no basis in reality! "?

I agree with you so much, not saying that NFR is a bad record. It definitely holds its own in today's music landscape. But, like you said, Honeymoon feels vastly superior as a mood album, and I even venture to say that Honeymoon feels vastly superior, period. For the life of me, I just cannot enjoy the production on NFR, it feels so lifeless and bland. I don't know what happened when they produced and mixed this album, but something definitely got lost. It's funny to me how Lana talks a big game about Jack's musicianship, but I don't think that this actually comes through on this album. For a couple days now I've been listening to a couple songs on this album on my way to work and school... here's a few thoughts. The title track, it's a beautiful song, but I don't know with what kind of microphone the piano part was recorded but it sounds hella cheap (weird cheap reverb with each piano notes...), also the same goes for the mixing of her vocals, and I hate how it gets super subdued/muted towards the end with the "bluuuue" it was actually time for this song to come through both intrumentally and vocally, but it all goes into oblivion... choices. This is probably the biggest let down for me on this album btw, I mean, in some songs the instrumentals have this "high school band" vibe, like on The greatest, although it's one of my favourite songs on the record, the instrumentals sound really distorted and the instruments themselves sound messy. Also, I understand that a lot of people regard Venice Bitch as one of her best songs, and while I really like it, I just don't feel like the 6 minutes instrumentals adds much to the song. Just really weirdly recorded guitar licks and the "woah wha-ever, wha-ever, beautiful" or whatever. I'm not going to pretend like this song is a masterpiece just because it's 10 minutes long. It just has this really dry/flat tone that I cannot get my head around, it lacks bass and beats (except on Cinnamon Girl and How To Disappear), but as for the rest of this album it's flat. All in all, I don't want to give a bad/negative review of each songs on this record, but to me I don't know what was the intention for this album, but either Jack sucks as a producer, or the intent for this album was to make it sound lazy/cheap. Glad that a lot of people are enjoying it, and it's definitely a step above Lust for Life, but to me Lana's mystery/mysticism and slick production has been gone since Honeymoon, and it is a bummer.

True, but also Kacey hasn't had the entire music industry working against her for the past seven years

This is exactly why I want Dan to make his glorious comeback as Lana's producer. Sorry, but Jack's production, while it was somewhat cute (I guess?), was lifeless, flat and dry. Whereas Dan's production style was much more balanced, Jack's style is way too subtle and subdued. Just listen to the demo and final versions of both West Coast and Sad Girl. That is God's work!

Screw you. I honestly can't with y'all fake ass feminists going against other women for sharing their experiences, calling them problematic and saying they romanticize shit and whatnot. She's an artist she doesn't have to oblige to your so called SJWs book of rules, she can do what she wants. If anything trying to act like she's all about girl power/Hollywood feminism all of a sudden actually makes her look quite disingenuous in my honest opinion. She was just tired of being labeled as problematic by these so called music critics and twitter/tumblr SJWs so she just changed her narrative and it shows, and it's honestly just sad.

I see no lies... Through the years I've honestly just come to the conclusion that Ms Del Rey simply hates performing. She really loves being in the studio, but she hates being on stage and it shows. She doesn't even look like she enjoys being up there and perform to her tour babiez like there's literally no reason to perform a set as short as an hour and fifteen minutes when you're literally there to promote your latest effort AND when you have five albums, an EP and 47298357510398 unreleased songs under you belt, unless you hate performing. We truly are stanning a self-sabotaging kween

Can you actually believe that her team teases working on building up this tour and also Lana said in an interview earlier this month that she likes creating narrative for her shows when she's basically just singing the same songs over and over again and sometimes randomly adds a few songs in the mix like... A LIE. Also, I've seen Lana three times live now, twice in a venue and once in a Festival. Looking back the only time it really was worth seeing her was the second time, The Endless Summer Tour, it was just perfect, a spotless performance. She's really just that lazy, I think. I've seen smaller and bigger acts than Lana and like not one of them gave performance as short as Lana's and when or if they did, they really compensate by giving it all. I've seen a lot of people come for Lana for that lackluster and disappointing concert/setlist, I think most of us are just fed up with what definitely looks like a rip off. It's such a disappointment because I really truly love Lana, but her concerts are just so random and basic, ugh.

She did five songs off the record she's named the tour upon... I mean I wouldn't have said anything if she gave yet again another random name for this tour, but it's literally called the Norman Fucking Rockwell Tour, yet out of twenty songs she sang only five. That's really silly, especially knowing she was heard soundchecking to more than that.

also she loves that tour lyfe so much and always talk a big game about loving touring in interviews... Girl, you're on stage for an hour at most, you perform the same overlplayed songs you've been singing for eight years AND you take selfies with the same five creepy fans that follow you everywhere. That's all there is. I'm glad she didn't come near me this time around, I just saved money for acts that are actually worth spending money on! Love you Lana, but after being a fan for quite some time now, the truth is: your concerts ain't it.

Sorry but

I don't really agree that this was her peak. But I definitely agree that in terms of visuals and aesthetics the Born To Die/Paradise era remains unmatched, and that's a fact.

Don't bother arguing with him though. He's got hatred for anything that is not NFR apparently; he's a Jack Stroganoff stan (yeah they exist, who knew?).

It feels premium, because it has the best production of any of her albums, it's so lush, sleek, hypnotizing and elegant! The recording and mixing process was spotless on this one! (Can you actually believe that this masterpiece literally turns four years old today? Happy birthday sweetie!)

In Lana fashion I don't even expect to hear an album within the next year. I'm sure there will be a couple of small announcements, I just don't see Lana actually surprise releasing that album. She can take her sweet time though and really work on that production and mixing.

First of all: how dare you? Second of all, they had already ripped off this song from The Air That I Breathe and had to pay copyrights to The Hollies. So to accuse Lana of ripping them off was a bit of a stretch, and I genuinely believe that the similarities in the chord progression was a coincidence on her part. Third of all, it's literally the best song on that godawful record.

Tomorrow Never Came, Heroin, Get Free. Those three songs redeem that entire sucky album

well, as of today, I'd say that shit goes down here

what do you want us to talk about though? Like we only know the album's title so far and that she's most likely working with Jackrabbit Stroganoff again... and that's it lol. We can only speculate with the little information we got in so far.

Oh I agree with that, I feel like the songs that sound sleek on Lust for Life are some of her best, but that's what? Maybe two three songs? This album aged like milk to me. Norman Fucking Rockwell will definitely age better, but to me the mixing of this album is very questionable.

That's true, but somehow singing through that sheet of paper sounded better than some of the recordings on NFR. Agree, that album was half filler tracks and very questionable artistic decisions, but I can honestly say the same about NFR. I don't mean to stir the pot, but that's how I feel.