fraises

yep it's about Evan Rachel Wood (his gf then).  She's in the video too.

This is the easiest way to irritate us girls/women: just say a thought or a feeling is just pms and hormones. Never fails to hit a nerve. Never.
 

were we separated at birth i was dancing around the room at the lou reed comment 

After reading that Shiny Toy Guns page i wonder if the drummer from that band was the "Local rock star" and jimmy gnecco was just a crush? 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with this. We're on a forum. We DISCUSS THINGS. I happen to think it makes the forum a far more interesting place to frequent as opposed to only talking about music releases and photos and appearances and tours. 

I think her feet are disgusting, they're huge. I think that about her hands too, they're gross. It's like her hands are bigger than her head.
The first times I saw her, I thought she was really ugly. I didn't even watch her video clips because I found her unpleasing to watch. She was a weird Nicole Kidman look-a-like, I thought her lips make her look stupid. Only her voice attracted me at first.
Now I think she's so beautiful, charismatic, and I love her lips even when they look weird it makes every picture interesting.
I also saw Lana Del Rey in La Boite à Questions (it's very popular in France) before listening to her music and by the way she was answering to the questions I thought she looked sooo stupid. 
The second time she went to the Grand Journal, after saying "blablabla love Paris France I feel home here blablabla" she was asked if she knows some words in French ... she couldn't even find a single fucking one. Rude.
I don't believe that she lived in a trailer park though I did before. It disappoints me tbh, it's extremely disrespectful to pretend being poor just to seem more interesting when your dad's a millionaire and you have no idea what it is to have no money. 
 
I don't like Young&Beautiful (it's ok to listen to it like 5 seconds, that's it) and just her new stuff. I think Burning Desire and Blue Velvet (though she sounds great in it) have no soul and are too commercial. Her Born to Die era was perfect to me, it was the perfect mix of everything I kinda always wanted to hear (the "epic" feeling, Nabokov references, Bonnie and Clyde stuff, ...). 
 
Lana didn't understand at all Lolita by Nabokov. To me, it's a story about the power of words and how you have to dig yourself and look beyond what the narrator tells you not being all "omg luv story".
 

I used to think she was Hispanic and as a Hispanic myself I was like "YES REPRESENT" until I Googled her and found out she was a white girl from New York.
 
I don't think using the headdress in Ride was appropriate or respectful or even accurate. The headdress isn't a symbol of freedom; it's basically a Northern equivalent to a Purple Heart, from what I understand. I really wish she hadn't used it.
 
The Million Dollar Man video with the demo is my favorite LDR video.
 
The studio version of Body Electric is my favorite song off Paradise.
 
I hate the live versions of Body Electric. Her vocals are just cringe-inducing, "emotional" as they may be. The instrumental sounds joyful??? and I like the very dark feeling behind the studio version (the bells in the second verse give me shivers~~~).
 
I haven't seen a single live performance of Lana's that I liked, to be honest. I like "Million Dollar Man" on "L'album de la semaine" because it honestly just dips into that "so bad it's good" range, but that's it.
 
Ride is incredibly boring. I do not see all the hype and it isn't even the best song on Paradise, let alone her entire discography.
 
I think Million Dollar Man and Lolita are criminally underrated. I routinely see these given the worst scores and it makes me so unhappy. MDM has a great jazzy feeling, which is a welcome break from whatever the rest of BTD is, and Lolita has a interesting chord progressions and makes the best use of her artificial little girl voice. Everyone seems to hate these two songs, though.
 
The second line of Blue Jeans is painful. "And you made my eyes BURN."
 

 
I think her low voice sounds very forced and unnatural.
 
Her voice sounds best on Sirens.
 
I wish she'd play guitar live; I don't think I've seen any performances of her with a guitar? (post Born To Die, not her Lizzy Grant/May Jailer/omgwtfbbq days).
 
I think Paradise was a huge step down from Born To Die.
 
It really bothers me she claims she wrote the song for "The Great Gatsby" when we know she announced the song for Paradise as "Will You Still Love Me When I'm No Longer Young And Beautiful," along with "In The Land Of Gods And Monsters" and "I Sing The Body Electric." I don't mind that it went towards the film at all and I know that they have to say she wrote it for the film to get dem awards, but it still bugs me.
 
I wouldn't mind if she were more popular; at least then I'd have people irl to fangirl over her. I have one friend who likes the idea of Lana Del Rey but only knows Video Games and another who only knows Young and Beautiful. The rest saw her SNL performance and think she's a manufactured fake who can't sing live.
 
The amount of leaks this fandom gets is astonishing. I thought the Gaga fandom got a bunch of stuff! Please note, my first experience as a fan of any artist was with ABBA, and we have a handful of LQ leaked songs, a few HQ snippets we are never going to get full versions of, and countless titles, some of which we don't even know are for. When you're good to Lana, Lana's good to you.

After reading that Shiny Toy Guns page i wonder if the drummer from that band was the "Local rock star" and jimmy gnecco was just a crush? 

Yep and with the "easy rider" mention too (actually a lot of Lana songs remind me of that movie - the open road, the love for the "country that america used to be", perceived freedom vs actually being free).  I wonder if she was actually involved with 1%ers or if it's just glamorizing the lifestyle, i know a lot of hell's angels affiliates and they're not people i would want to get messed up with, lol. 

Yep and with the "easy rider" mention too (actually a lot of Lana songs remind me of that movie - the open road, the love for the "country that america used to be", perceived freedom vs actually being free).  I wonder if she was actually involved with 1%ers or if it's just glamorizing the lifestyle, i know a lot of hell's angels affiliates and they're not people i would want to get messed up with, lol. 

yep it's about Evan Rachel Wood (his gf then).  She's in the video too.

yep it's about Evan Rachel Wood (his gf then).  She's in the video too.

Off To The Races.
 
The real lyric: Cipriani's Basement
 
What I heard: Tribbiani's Basement
 
That's what I get from watching too much Friends.

Imagine if it was "Angelas Forever":

Awesome!!  I love Lenny.

Awesome!!  I love Lenny.

I got to know more about Lana through all her leaks, I got to connect with her. It took the journey Lana invited us to in BTD and removed all the stop signs and restrictions. I can't begin to articulate what it meant to me to hear any of the leaks, especially "Hollywood's Dead" and "Damn You" back in September. I owe Lana the world for those two songs.

 
 
That's probably why I do feel a little frustration when there are "hoarders" that play games with other listeners who really want to hear the songs, it puts up the boundaries again for people who see music as more of a personal and spiritual outlet/experience rather than a means of breaking silence or passing time. However, some of the ones that don't bluff about their collection and just choose not to leak everything they got, do make that choice out of fair reasoning.

My father has always reminded my siblings and I about the futility in dwelling on the bad with an analogy of sorts, and for me, it applies to all the leaks, and especially the leaks of the potential third-album tracks.

You go to a wedding, and the best man has a little too much to drink. He's stumbling around, being sloppy, and manages to knock the wedding cake off its stand, destroying it. Almost everybody is going to focus on how the best man was so drunk, how the wedding cake went to waste, but what about how beautiful the bride looked? What about how beautiful of a ceremony it was or how wonderful of an experience it is to see two people who love each other unifying? It's so easy to focus on the worst thing that can happen because it's what people have a habit of remembering the most because the ease of doing so outweighs what good it can really do to shift your perspective to something more optimistic.

It is an honest shame that the third album tracks weren't as well-secured as they should have been, but it happened and it is what it is; and what it means for the third album...well, that's in the unknown. But the songs are so beautiful, and Lana most likely worked very hard on them to make them as beautiful as they are. I'm a firm believer in the laws of attraction, so I try to think good and well of those leaks, hoping that they, like BTD and Paradise did, will lead to great things for Lana's publicity and her career from here on out. I don't like catering thoughts or energy to worst case scenarios just because they can happen. No shit they can, but so can the best case scenarios. I think projecting pessimistic energy can be more threatening than any worst case scenario that could happen. So when it comes to the third album leaks, I believe in the occurrence's ability to do a lot of good for Lana in the end, because it should, it could, and as far as I'm concerned, it will, because I wouldn't want to think the worst for Lana, the worst possibility's still not enough of a reason to get me to.

But that's just me, I'm not expecting anyone to agree or whatever. I've been told I've too much naivety these days.

VIVE LA QUEEN OF CONEY ISLAND, VIVE LANA DEL REY.

The National, slow show

battle lines
dynamite
MTV
Quoting Corleone
you're a vision
 
Costra Nostra is a reference to the mafia.

I know ice is slang for diamonds, but it's weird she says "Lucy's in the sky with ice" since it's no longer a backronym for LSD.

God, that bridge is so heavenly.

And what's up with Lana and getting down while watching TV/playing video games?

#TapItLikeAHiHat

The lyrics to the song are like a bunch of bad similes.
 
Love the first few bars of the instrumental before the vocals come in. Reminds me a lot of the Twin Peaks theme. Other than that it's not that great.
 

Paradise is a hell-colored flame sky
 
Like the quote from Lolita: "I still dwelled deep in my elected paradise — a paradise whose skies were the color of hell-flames — but still a paradise."
 
Reminds me of "flame-colored paradise" from Velvet Crowbar.

Did these lyrics remind anybody else of that shitty quote about her and Barrie from that Electronic Beats interview?
 

I don't have time to respond to this entire post right now, but I couldn't not respond quickly to this part:
 

You could, you know, respond to what I've actually written or ask me to clarify what I've written rather than putting words in my mouth and making straw arguments. I never said all the media criticism was valid nor did I endorse any of the accusations you listed. What I did say is that she accused the media of slander against her and her family about things she continues to lie about in the same breath, and that she falsely claimed that she doesn't have money and that her family never had any money. In the same response that she mentions media slander, she says, "Everything they wrote was fucking crazy. Like about my dad, about me, like having millions of dollars, and all this shit." While I don't doubt that there were lean periods for her family financially, or that her father may have sustained large losses in the market during the bursting of various bubbles, or that much of his net worth was merely on paper, or whatever caveats you'd like to add, I'm quite confident in concluding that her father did have at least a million dollars (if not millions), and what you yourself wrote supports that conclusion. Later in the interview she says, "Saying I came from billions of dollars is crazy. We never had any money." I think it's telling that she moves the goalposts from millions to billions mid-interview, because I think she knows her dad probably is worth a couple million. No one ever said she came from billions of dollars, although she certainly did rub elbows with her dad's business contacts who were billionaires. At any rate, even if I am somehow wrong about her dad having millions of dollars, her claim that her family "never had any money" is just patently false. One need not even consider her father's business assets to determine this. It is obvious considering the property her father owns and the cost of tuition at Kent. Again, I never said anywhere, and do not necessarily believe, that her dad significantly funded her career (though I also don't think he was completely uninvolved in her career either). If Lana defended herself against this accusation by saying "My dad didn't fund my career" I would simply leave it at that. But that's not what she says. She says, "We never had any money" when the opposite is true. And if lying about coming from privilege weren't shitty enough, she has the gall to accuse the media of slander for saying so.

And it gets worse. Later in the interview she says, "Before I had no money. And now everything I make, I lose. So I don’t have money again, because I lose half." Perhaps she's referring to all the other people she has to pay, but presumably she's referring to taxes. It's one thing when rich people bitch about how much they have to pay in taxes. (And I confess, most of you would probably consider me rich, and I've been known to express sticker shock about how much I've had to pay at one time, but not that it was unfair. In fact, I think I should have to pay more.) But it's a whole 'nother thing for the rich to not only claim that they're not rich after taxes, but that they don't have any money afterwards. Boo fucking hoo. Tell it to your topiary pony, Lana.

On a final note, I really take issue with this:
Frankly, this is an incredibly presumptuous and rude remark, especially considering this was your first post made mere hours after joining the forum. You might take some time to familiarize yourself with members' views and contributions to the forum before making insulting comments like that toward them. If you're going to wing in here and question other fans' presence on a discussion forum for expressing their honest criticism, then, I may ask, why are you here?

Welcome to LanaBoards!

No, Lana doesn't owe us anything, but I'm also not obligated to like her or refrain from valid criticism of her just because I like her music. Frankly, it amazes me the amount of excuses some of you make for her at times. (As a side note, I think a lot of projection is going on there.)

I started writing a long diatribe quoting the interview extensively and dissecting the info in it as well as what I found objectionable, but honestly, there's so much to criticize here that it became one big TL;DR that I had trouble even organizing coherently. (And that wasn't even getting around to responding to some of the replies in this thread!) I might still post that, but for those of you who still don't get what some of us took exception to, here's the CliffsNotes version:
Superficial America-bashing that seems rooted in pettiness over harsher media criticism and less commercial success in the US (and a ridiculously false perception of it at that), not in any sort of intelligent critique of the US Bringing up the subject of being criticized as anti-feminist, bitching about it, then expressing complacent views on feminism and denying obvious inspiration by female icons Denying she cares about her appearance when she certainly does Stating she has a degree in metaphysics even though Fordham does not offer a degree in metaphysics (and as Maru pointed out there is some doubt whether she even graduated at all) Hurling accusations of media slander against her and her family about things she continues to lie about in the same breath Falsely claiming that she doesn't have money and that her family never had any money Bitching about a lack of control of her image and how the media portrays her in the same interview she admits to "fucking around with" journalists in her answers in previous interviews Judgmental and pretentious statements that other people don't care about music/poetry/art as much as her and Barrie in the same interview she says music isn't her primary focus A pervasive attitude of defensiveness and victim-playing throughout

See I think it's more about her, the "party girl" (there was actually an interesting article on ohnotheydidnt about the ~yacht girls~ of cannes and other glam locations!) explaining to the guy on her arm that she's just a party girl and not in it for love, she's just in it for the drinks, the glamour, and the danger, but even though she's explained that he's forgotten it and is getting attached?  I would take her "work" to mean just that, working the scene/using her body/charm as leverage.