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I agree with that. Tunnel, as good as it was, was wildly inconsistent and sometimes sounded like a mix-tape. OB, Grants, Sweet, Paris, Texas, and the Interludes sounded like one, piano heavy record with a gospel vibe. A&W, Candy Necklace, Fishtail, Taco and Peppers sounded like they belong on another, more trap oriented record Grandfather sounded like an NFR leftover. Margaret and Let the Light felt like they came from another, acoustic guitar album. Chemtrails leftovers? And then there's Kintsugi and Fingertips, which sound like Bjork-style avant-guarde. With Lasso, I'm cool with country and trap or rap mixing. But I do hope it doesn't end up being a mixed bag of genres like OB.
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This 100%. Adele has dropped 4 albums since 2008. There was a six-year gap between her last two. Lana's dropped four albums + poetry book + audio book + bunch of solo singles & collabs + bunch of unreleased songs during the same six-year period. I know we all want Lasso, but we have no ground to stand on when we complain.
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Lana Del Rey and Quavo “Tough” - OUT NOW!
barttttender replied to rocknrollgroupie's topic in New Releases
how many authors were involved is such a mute point tho. Every song beyonce has ever released has like 11 writers on it. It's a miracle that Lana has more success than / as much success as beyonce in the streaming era, given how she writes most of her songs on her own. You (and others) are selling tough short. It was never going to be Summertime Sadness-level smash. That's a straight-up pop song. Tough is a country/rap mix that was never going to be everyone's cuppa. But it sure as hell did well, especially given lana's previous spotify chart entries, like the user above astutely pointed out. again, it's doing more streams on spotify daily than summertime. Do you have any idea how hard it is for a pop star pushing 40 to dethrone her top charting single on streaming in the same year beyonce, billie, dua and others dropped their singles? It's actually a miracle. (See how Katy Perry's latest has done by comparison). not even love or doin' time, her poppiest songs in years, managed to hold up this well. another mute point is that it's a collab. No one has ever complained when katy perry's bon appetite with migos made a huge splah - just because it's not a solo song. These points youre making are circumstantial. -
It'll come, babe. She's not gonna drop 10-15 songs she's been working on for 5 years. Not when she's got a hit in Tough, and she's got gems like Mirror, Henry and Prettiest Girl ready at hand. My guess is that she had a solid country record and was genuinely aiming for a September release. And then she heard Cowboy Carter, Hit Me Hard and Soft and other releases and realized the record is not up to par and she needs to work on it a bit more. I'm guessing she's adding some beats, tweaking it, changing stuff, adding new songs, etc. I'm still hoping for the first single in September. So, at least she'll have given us something to latch onto. The song she's just registered is probably that.
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I've been saying this for months. A trap beat across Lasso would make this record a far more interesting project. I'm hoping the Mirror and Tough are both on it, and there are other tracks in a similar vein, in addition to Prettiest Girl in Country Music, Henry Come on and other more traditional country cuts. While I love Chemtrails and OB (loathed BB so leaving it out), I miss LDR records with a bit of a pace to them and some variety. Fewer languid ballads, if you will. If Lasso ends up being a sequel to LFL or Born to Die, I'd be over the moon. She'll have plenty of time for ballads in her 40s, 50s and 60s lol
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Lana Del Rey and Quavo “Tough” - OUT NOW!
barttttender replied to rocknrollgroupie's topic in New Releases
I mean, not every song needs to be on a year-end list to be deemed a success. Some just need to be bops, gets some radio play and good streaming numbers, and be part of the pop culture conversation. What's more, she's just had that massive critical success with A&W, complete with 2 Grammy nominations. For me, a peak on 33 in the US, plus high ranking in countries around the world + 4 weeks of charting, is more than enough to solidify Tough as a big win for Lana this decade. I'll also remind you that none of the some 50 songs off her last three records had anywhere near the commercial success of Tough, and had zero radio play. So, we needed Tough, and it delivered. Mission accomplished, and we can now move on. -
Lana Del Rey and Quavo “Tough” - OUT NOW!
barttttender replied to rocknrollgroupie's topic in New Releases
Well, it's getting more daily listens than Summertime Sadness - the biggest hit of her career. And those numbers has been steady for 4 weeks. It's been on Billboard for 3 weeks, and will surely stay there for week 4. Only 4 Lana songs have stayed on charted for that long (Summertime Remix, Y&B, Snow on the Beach and Don't Call Me Angel). Hence, if it makes it to week 4, it'll be the 5th longest charting song of her career. That's longer than Say Yes to Heaven, West Coast, High by the Beach, Lust for Life, Love, Prisoner, Doin' Time, etc. If you don't think that's a success, I don't know what you expected exactly? It also peaked higher than Say Yes to Heaven, and only 5 songs have peaked higher than Tough overall (West Coast + the four I mentioned above). Mind you, West Coast was out after 2 weeks on the chart only, and that was at the height of her fame (Born to Die/Paradise era had just ended). I know there are a lot of Tough haters around here, but objectively speaking, this is a hit. Not to mention it's now been sent to radios, too. -
Lana Del Rey and Quavo “Tough” - OUT NOW!
barttttender replied to rocknrollgroupie's topic in New Releases
With 1.6 million streams per day, Tough outstreams the below tracks on Spoitfy. Next up: Honeymoon, Tomorrow Never Came and Beautiful People. It'll probably reach Lana's top 50 songs in a month or two, which is a massive success. 85th song of her career in just 4 weeks so far! Mind you, Honeymoon (song) has been out for 10 years. That just shows you how big this song is. Religion 71,880,331 42,527 Summertime Sadness - Sped Up 70,761,374 48,737 Yayo 70,182,734 25,659 -
Oh lord. Could in God's Time be the first Lasso single? I reckon Tough and God's Time are from Lasso, and Fly is off Quavo's new album. At least I hope so since I don't want that Lanny Krawitz chorus anywhere near Lasso. Maybe they did one for Lana (Tough) and one for him (Fly). Fingers crossed. Wish we got a god damn announcement of sorts. or a new single. Maybe one week from now since it'll be a month since Tough came out.
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Aww thank you You're the sweetest As for God's Time, is that the "I want to fly away" track Quavo teased? I have to say, it doesn't sound very promising. That chorus is way, way overplayed. And it was never that good to begin with imo. But let's see.
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What's In God’s Time? I thought the only new track she performed was 'The Mirror'
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and today is my birthday. really thought i was getting a lil prezzie from ldr lol
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if it's a soft launch, it aint gonna be lasso related
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Guys, what is happening? I was travelling for 4 days. What's the news? Can't scour through the thread. HELP
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Lana Del Rey and Quavo “Tough” - OUT NOW!
barttttender replied to rocknrollgroupie's topic in New Releases
Outstreamed all of the below. Summertme Sadness Sped Up next, along with Season of the Witch, Yayo, Religion, and Honeymoon. 89th most streamed song of her career with 1.5+ million streams daily still, which is super high (still higher than Summertime Sadness, Y&B and Stargirl Interlude. This is her biggest hit since SYTH for sure. The Next Best American Record 67,667,707 27,236 Bel Air 67,330,569 26,195 Bartender 66,907,261 30,009 If You Lie Down With Me 65,368,095 30,497 Coachella - Woodstock In My Mind 61,530,919 17,267 Thunder 61,028,151 74,487 Burning Desire -
Been away for 3-4 days. Did i miss any news on lasso guys?
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That's a good idea. With only really essential tracks from each record (Ride, West Coast, OB, etc) to showcase her absolute best. My only request would be for Lana not to curate this project herself because y'all know we'd end up with random songs like Blue Banisters, Candy Necklace and Arcadia... Fun fact: Tough has already outstreamed all these songs on Spotify in just 3 weeks.
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So wait, she left Lil Mix too? I loved their X factor style show when they were looking for talent. That was a hoot and a half, and that hip-hop band SLAYED as much as anyone ever has on a reality show. https://youtu.be/-G5aJwNzaEc?si=MODkzmlIq8CXDKqj This song tho by Jade. But all over the place and overproduced imo.
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Lana Del Rey and Quavo “Tough” - OUT NOW!
barttttender replied to rocknrollgroupie's topic in New Releases
Tough has outstreamed all of the below. Next: White Dress, Burning Desire, Thunder, Coachella, If You Lie Next to Me, Bartender and Bel Air. Personally, I can't believe it's about to outstream an NFR song just three weeks upon release. The video is about to reach 10M too, and the visualiser crossed 1M. It's entered Lana's top 100 songs on Spotify ever, out of 231 listed. Also on Spotify, it's doing 2.24M per day (Stargirl Interlude + Y&B combined). Tulsa Jesus Freak 57,277,788 54,670 * Summertime 56,955,507 67,012 Arcadia 56,826,463 26,570 * Hallucinogenics (feat. Lana Del Rey) -
Tough now officially outstreamed these songs on Spotify (see spoiler). 55,350,974 total streams, 2,805,168 daily average. That's more than any other Lana song at the moment, even Summertime Sadness. Should outstream Arcadia, Summertime (Gershwin), TJF and White Dress about tomorrow or the day after.
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katy perry's woman's world: 11 Mn views in 12 days. tough: 9.6 Mn in 14 days. I mean, if this isn't a measure of how well tough is doing in the sunset of youtube's success, i dunno what is.
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Also, tough spends it's 2nd week on Billboard. it's the 8th most successful song of her career by chart standards. Only Summertime, Y&B and a handful of others have charted longer
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Lana Del Rey and Quavo “Tough” - OUT NOW!
barttttender replied to rocknrollgroupie's topic in New Releases
It's still doing great. It has doubled the views of CN on YouTube, exceeded LMLYLAW 's MV, and almost exceeded Arcadia too. It's also having it's 2nd week on billboard (the 8th most successful song of her career by those terms) -
Lana Del Rey and Quavo “Tough” - OUT NOW!
barttttender replied to rocknrollgroupie's topic in New Releases
And Midnights is "Album of the Year". What's your point? I'm not saying Candy Necklace is a bad song, just that it's acquired taste. Rarely has a Lana single flopped so bad like that one and the other singles I mentioned. That doesn't mean that they're bad songs, or that I personally don't love them. But in terms of "aging like milk"...... Well, I bet you Tough will be a lot higher on the Spotify list of Lana's most listened tracks. Was merely defending Tough against the slander, when we've gotten far worse singles as of late. -
when it comes this thread, all i can think of is: "i'm so bored, i could die. Lasso is over. O.v.e.r."