SinclairKills23

Oh she’s definitely dropping a single in February 

Most sensible post in this entire thread
100% agree

Also, I personally think we should believe all people (men or women or nonbinary) who come forward about being raped/SA/SH unless actually being proven otherwise (random voice memos are not proof) Less than 10% of SA/SH claims are proven to be false. The amount of these cases that go unreported are significantly higher than people lying. To be fair, people are innocent until proven guilty so if you don’t believe her then people should at least wait until the legal process is over to come to their conclusion. But that doesn’t mean we should assume someone is lying and blame the victim. People don’t assume others are lying about other physical assault cases for example, so why should we treat SA/SH differently?

This is the creepiest fucking thing I’ve ever heard lmao. How does a 6 minute long voice memo in a sultry voice, with numerous apologies, prove that Blake wasn’t sexually harassed by this man? 

it's by design. His administration (bc lets be real he is calling like 5% of the shots) is trying to overwhelm us with as much insane shit as quickly as possible.

Istg it feels like everyday there’s some new awful thing Trump does.  I can’t believe he’s only been in office for about a week; it’s gonna be a LONG 4 years 

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Well then by the same logic there are undertones of what @Rorman Nockwell said in some of these opinions too  
 
Again, if I’m proven wrong I’m proven wrong—but I see no real reason for Blake Lively to lie and make up these claims and draw all this negative attention to herself. In this particular case, I don’t think believing Lively is simplistic. In fact, I’d argue she has much more to lose than Baldoni, and at this point I give her the benefit of the doubt. 

What Creykhead said was crazy. No one ever, anywhere in this thread, said “women good, men bad” except for him. 

Clock it

You are really showing your arse here.
I hope you never have a sister or a niece or a wife or a mother or any other woman in your life come to you and confide in you about being harassed or assaulted. Imagine looking them in the eye and telling them that believing them is "too simplistic." Let me tell you - there isn't a woman alive who doesn't (or won't) experience some sort of sexual harassment or assault in her lifetime, and that is a heartbreaking fact.
The point isn't that women are good and men are bad.
The point (which you, and the masses) have proven is that women are not believed by default.
The point is that predatory men get away with this shit for years and years and years. Because woman are not believed by default. As I said - these cases are notoriously difficult to prove, and predators rely on that. They rely on people crying, "bUt wHeRe iS tHe eViDeNcE?"
The point is that, when women come forward with these kinds of allegations, they are treated as if they are being unreasonable and overemotional and that they are smearing some innocent, level-headed man. And you know what? That may well be true in this case - but again, the point is - this is the default reaction. And it's an inherently misogynistic reaction.
And you can defend Justin Baldoni and demonise Blake Lively until the cows come home, but the only real, irrefutable evidence in this case so far is that his PR team is working overtime to put across exactly what I just said. Think about that. The voice note you've linked proves nothing except that he and his PR team continue to put forward this "she's unreasonable and overemotional and he's level-headed and fair" narrative.
The nerve of you stanning a woman who sings about this very thing in her songs (most recently, A&W) and then coming on here and saying shit like that is really something you ought to think about.
That is all.

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The internet just hates women. Whether or not whoever is in the right, there’s so much hate towards Blake right now that some of it gives very misogynistic. This just gives very Depp v Heard all over again 🙄

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The internet just hates women. Whether or not whoever is in the right, there’s so much hate towards Blake right now that some of it gives very misogynistic. This just gives very Depp v Heard all over again 🙄

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There is nothing in Baldoni’s case that concretely refutes sexual harassment in the way that Blake described. It’s just designed to make Blake look like a cringey and imperfect victim. 
 
Like @jealous girl (tags don’t work) said, I don’t mind being proven wrong in the end, but as of right now, I see no reason to not trust Blake’s accounting of the events. 

I don't mind being proven wrong but this is taking it to extremes...

The internet just hates women. Whether or not whoever is in the right, there’s so much hate towards Blake right now that some of it gives very misogynistic. This just gives very Depp v Heard all over again 🙄

Honestly I don't really understand this situation but it’s sad people don’t believe Blake. Just because someone did things in the past that weren’t very nice doesn’t make them wrong forever in every situation. I do believe Blake was SH because I don’t see why someone would come forward and lie about it. Apologies if I’m just not getting all the facts right but people seem to be looking at this in a very black and white misogynistic way and I don’t think that’s fair.