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Maybe Violet is her? Maybe Violet is Lizzy? Because when it was revealed that Terrence Loves You alternate title was "Violet Sings The Blues". She was blonde when she was Lizzy Grant and she dyed her hair black when she was already Lana Del Rey. Maybe it was Lizzy who bent backwards over the grass. (Maybe Violet will be her future stage name, if she wants to change it - but I hope not, I'm not one of those name-change believers)

I love it so much, it's my top 5 Lana album. It's so sad that it gets that much hate. The album sounds so serene and it's actually very diverse. There are beatsy tracks, ballad-y tracks, folky tracks, dreamy/vibey tracks. I love the production very much, Jack isn't my favorite producer but he is my favorite musician. He balanced the album's sounds well, he can play an instrument amazingly, especially in White Dress. Also I love the detailed sounds in COTCC song. I love the lyrics too, they're introspective and diaristic but they're also like a dialogue from an old movie but also a stunning scenery from a movie or like a beautifully written description of a place from a book. I also loved how she sampled Is It Wrong's chorus in Dancing Till We Die bridge. The whole album channelled Lizzy, especially May Jailer. NFR - Violet Bent Backwards - COTCC was a great trilogy, not gonna lie! 💐

I feel like she'll add more dates in the future because the tickets will be sold out fast asf 😭 Also manifesting an Eurovision surprise appearence since it takes place in Sweden around mid-May 2024if Madonna and Justin Timberlake have done it, she can do it too

@Unknown said that CKD is a HM outtake, it was made before June 2015.

@lanaismamom hey, idk if it's necessary but you should add Sunshine to the Ocean Boulevard section in OP. Didn't Rob say that they made Sunshine for Ocean Blvd?

I don't know if any of you have discussed that but like 4 years ago I saw some people talking about it on YouTube that Lana sampled Princess Chelsea's No Church On Sunday in Heroin! (it's kind of a subtle sample like how she sampled The Beatles in West Coast) And I listened to the album where No Church On Sunday is from, called The Great Cybernetic Depression (released in 2015) and the album's songs have the same spacey cosmic electronic ambient vibes as the so-called "original concept of Lust For Life", similar to the songs like Heroin, Lust For Life demo, If I Die Young (I know that it's a Honeymoon outtake). Although The Great Cybernetic Depression is a lot more quirkier (it's kinda like if early era Marina Diamandis made the original concept of LFL herself or something like that). But I can see that Lana was definitely inspired from that album when she sampled for Heroin! Also I have read some theories on No Church On Sunday song, that it talks about her brother's drug overdose (although I don't think so because I think that it's a misheard lyric), but it would connect this song and Heroin a lot more.

I remember when Doin' Time was released, I listened to it in YT and one of the fans posted the lyrics in the comments and they wrote wrong lyrics because they misheard the first line as "Summertime and eleven zz" Also when I heard Born To Die song for the first time in 2012, I believed for 5 years that the lyrics were: "Your lucky girls are insane" And when I heard Love for the first time, I thought she sang: "Look at your kiss with your vintage music". And I cringed so hard and thought that girl's gone too far with her vintage obsession I also though that in Blue Banisters she sang: "There's a picture on the wall, of me and John Deere" (I thought that John Deere is an American writer or something, not a tractor )

I never listen to albums as standards, sorry. I can't imagine listening to UV without Is This Happiness for me full album is an album with all tracks, I don't care if it's a deluxe or bonus track.

I remember when Lana dated Chase Stogel, a fan commented on his then latest Insta post (from Summer 2019) that "tell Lana to drink again, so she could write UV 2.0". As a fan, it was so embarrassing to read, like wtf, I literally wanted to bleach my eyes reading this and wanted to just leave Insta so I wouldn't see embarrassing toxic shit such as this again 🤮 I think she started dating Evan in 2022 because in October 2022 they were together watching a football match and Evan hold her hands or something. But whatever tho.

Yeah but the timeline of the non-outtake songs are still unknown/messy. We have Gabe Simon songs, Zach Dawes songs, Mike Dean song and Drew Erickson songs. We don't know about the album's outtakes either, besides Loved You Now And Then/Rock Candy Sweet.

Banisters definitely needs a one because it had an original concept Rock Candy Sweet and scrapped it when she met Erickson or something

You can hear Emile inspired space train/owl sounds in White Mustang and When The World... too! I think it was intentional!

It's called the 4th album curse

Her new Insta stories are probably some easter eggs about her new music? Can't wait, I was one of those few people who loved Solar Power. She's performing at many festivals this Summer too! 💛

I think that the last song (or one of the last) recorded for COTCC was Dark But Just A Game, because she said in an interview for MOJO (in 2021) that the Oscars 2020 Afterparty inspired her to write that song: "A year or so ago, Del Rey attended a party with Jack Antonoff and St. Vincent at the house of Guy Oseary, manager of Madonna and U2. “Something happened,” she says, “kind of a situation like – never meet your idols. And I just thought, ‘I think it’s interesting that the best musicians end up in such terrible places.’ I thought to myself, ‘I’m going to try my best not to change because I love who I am.’ I said, ‘Jack, it’s dark.’ And he said, ‘Well, it’s dark – but I mean, it’s just a game.’” The incident inspires a song on Chemtrails - Dark But Just A Game" Although we know that the song samples Bird World too, but I still think it's the last song recorded for the album because the afterparty was on Feb 9th, 2020 and quite soon after that quarantine happened. If I'm not wrong, other COTCC songs (except Yosemite, which was recorded in 2016-2017) were recorded during the NFR Tour (like the Nikki and Zella, Weyes collabs and Dance Till We Die, White Dress?) and other songs were recorded during the NFR sessions or after the release of NFR (Not All Who Wander, COTCC, Wild At Heart, Tulsa Jesus Freak, Let Me Love You). She could've changed the songs during the quarantine and after the Sean breakup, who knows.

Added COTCC to the thread! Honeymouns said that Lana sent Valley To The Dolls to Jack or something.

I remember when the demo leaked, some fans speculated that Mark Ronson was the producer of the demo.

Love Song (Darla's Version) (From The Vault) (10 Minutes Version) when?

He didn't talk about "Not All Who...", it's just my theory. But Honeymouns said that it's a NFR outtake. Idk about her relationship timeline with Sean but she had written Tulsa Jesus Freak (as White Hot Forever, she mentioned the song as an album name in August 2019) before she was seen/dating with Sean (mid-September 2019). And everybody thinks that TJF is about Sean (although since she didn't mention the song's title in the song, so she could've rewrite the title). Idk, maybe TJF is a NFR outtake too

Thank you ❤

Jack said in an interview that when he was working with Lana, they were sorting out songs, there were: • NFR songs • Bombastic songs • Quiet songs So I think that they made it during the NFR sessions and when they started "sorting", then they put it in the quiet songs section.

(sorry, if I constantly post here cuz I feel like I'm an annoying burden on you all 💀) But during LFL era Lana worked with so many producers besides Rick & Co. For example, with Emile Haynie, it's impossible that they only worked on Love. They were also seen a lot during Spring 2016, so I feel like they worked on 1-2 songs more than Love. I made a list: POSSIBLE SESSIONS WITH EACH PRODUCER AND COLLABORATOR WHO WORKED FOR LUST FOR LIFE • PRODUCERS • Rick Nowels & Co. (Kieron Menzies, Dean Reid) sessions (that's basically confirmed because they made like the biggest amount of songs together) Emile Haynie sessions Benny Blanco sessions Max Martin sessions Mighty Mike sessions (works with Rick Nowels, although his production contribution appears on three songs - 13 Beaches, Heroin and TNBAR) Tim Larcombe sessions Boi-1da sessions Metro Boomin sessions Justin Parker sessions Fred Again sessions (the weird thing what I noticed while I looked up the producers' production/writing discography was that she worked with two.....Ed Sheeran's producers - Benny Blanco and Fred Again ) • COLLABORATORS • The Weeknd sessions ASAP Rocky sessions (could be with Bo-1da because they work together) Stevie Nicks sessions Sean Ono Lennon sessions

Based on the aesthetics of each album AKA: 💛 BTD: ❤ Paradise: 🧡 UV: 🖤 HM: 💗 LFL: 💙 NFR: 💚 COTCC: 🤍 BB: 🤎 OB: 💜

Hey @Unknown, no pressure, but do you have any interesting tea about NFR era?

I think that Lana is just cringing when she looks back at the Born To Die era (like when she mocked her Million Dollar Man performance in Banisters release's livestream). I don't really think she hates Emile's production that much. Although what I have noticed that in BTD era performances (like Born To Die's performance in BBC Radio 1 Live Lounge and Radio's performance at The Scala Club), her band used the demo versions of those songs.