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Late June 2014 (on 24th if I'm not wrong) Lana said to the media that they have broken up and that way Barrie found out that they had broken up 💀

Hey @Unknown You're always welcomed here and you can always come here to talk more about the outtakes and recording process from different eras! 🪐

Yeah but Valley Of The Dolls is from The Last Shadow Puppets album, like California. Because Zach Dawes produced it.

I think that early she started writing songs which started to question everything: Lust For Life demo - questions about her fame Heroin - questions about her life and life in general Get Free - questions about her future 13 Beaches - questions about relationships/fame Architecture - questions about her ex/past Later she wrote kind of songs that are more anxious and doubtful and also wanting to be hopeful: Cherry, Change, War, Tomorrow, White Mustang, In My Feelings, Coachella, Lust For Life, Summer Bummer, Beautiful People/Problems. Then there are songs that outside look positive but inside are sad: Love (just accepting things they way they are), Groupie Love (trying to live with fame), God Bless America (trying to live alone). Of course this is my interpretation. But this is the way I have always seen the album.

Ok, let me handle it. I'm certain that my following unoopular opinion/theory is (very) controversial AND LONG! The so-called "witchy dreamy spacey cosmic folky psychedelic ambient" original concept is a myth. I don't think that the "witchiness" was even the goal for the album. I have also thought that Lana wasn't really certain either what she wanted for the album. Once in 2015 she talked about her thoughts on the new album "like a New York record, less dreamy and more upbeat". Then in 2016 (at the Pre-Grammy Gala?) she said that the upcoming album will have a similar aesthetic with Honeymoon, although in February 2017 Insta livestream she said that LFL will have a retro-futuristic aesthetic. But the album has also Woodstock/1960s-70s hippie aesthetics which are also seen on the album cover which was shot already in June/July 2016 (the hippie-peace inspired looks were also seen in the Festival Tour 2016). Also at first she made some Shangri-Las inspired songs, then after Donald Trump's victory in November 2016, she started to make more politically oriented songs. Also to think that in 2016 she made electro-pop version of Say Yes To Heaven. Then she also was in relationship with G-Eazy in Spring 2017 which in result she started to make more songs. In an interview with a radio in early 2017, she (and later in an another interview Rick Nowels) also said that the album will be mix of everything, that will have different genres. It's either two options: • she was unsure what to do with the album • it was intentional and I believe this theory more, because you can see that the album's sound has mix from the sound of her old eras (baroque pop, dream pop, hip-hop, trap, trip hop) and the sound of her upcoming/newer sound (folk, acoustic ballads, folktronica, Americana) which are seen in NFR, COTCC and so on. The collaborations were 100% intentional because Abel and Rocky were important people in the start of her breakthrough and Nicks/Lennon are kind of her idols, so she wanted to show people where is she heading to. That's why she later dedicated to the fans because she was saying goodbye to her "old-self", her old sound. I feel like that was kind of her point the whole time.

Lana songs aren't really that scary for me but if there's a song (and video) that has creepy vibes then it's probably the 2007 live version of Brite Lites. The loud horror-like guitar and the red low quality video makes it look like it's from the dark web which went viral in the late 2000s and people started making creepypastas of it. Not gonna lie, I love it actually, even if the guitar sounds weird

I don't know if any of you care about this or have seen this but I think it's a fitting thread to post this. It's the composite screen of Lust For Life title track with its 129 mixes/stems. Her mixers Kieron Menzies and Dean Reid shared this photo in an interview where they discussed about LFL album in general.

We might have Hope Is A Dangerous Thing demo from Honeymoon era and/or Lust For Life era because I remember in an interview from December 2018, Lana said that she had written Hope for 3 years.

I'm pretty sure? He was the one who played the synths too.

Is it possible that some of the LFL era outtakes were reworked in NFR era too? I remember Honeymouns said that Lana sent Jack some LFL era concept demos. I kinda think that Happiness Is A Butterfly demo is from LFL era. Because Rick was the co-writer of the song. It could also be from the Bartender sessions too.

It's most likely included in my almost-10-pages long analysis of Lust For Life album I wrote, it's from late 2020/early 2021. If I find it and I have done some corrections, I think I'll post it separetely somewhere (maybe I'll make a blog for it? We'll see). And yes, I'm crazy for that, since Seotember 2020, I spent like every day analysing the album. I still do it sometimes...

In the trailer she hinted the collaborations when she was "cooking" (Abel's XO sign and Sean Ono Lennon's label logo). I think the trailer's monologue corresponds to the album more than the visuals and I feel like the monologue was point of the trailer. (few years ago I made a whole list of references from the trailer that mentioned the album, if I find it, I'll write them down here)

I honestly think that we already have the full RBFY (the one minute version she shared on Instagram). It was meant to be just an intro, I can't really imagine it being longer.

Didn't BOZ say that some time she changed the album's name to a lead single or something? And changed the tracklist also. Arcadia was the lead single of the album though. It was in June 2021 when she met Drew Erickson and they started making new songs. I think it's a random "nickname" for the song. I haven't seen it registred like that. It's same kind of nickname like Love Song was In Your Car ect.

When Coachella was released, I loved it so much (I still love it, one of my favorites, I'm probably the only fan of the song) and the whole time I listened to the song, there were like hate comments everywhere. I do find the song kind of "unusual" but it doesn't mean it's bad. I'd like to add some strings to the song though

Yeah I agree, I think if it had the "alleged" slow sound like the LFL demo and such, it would've had lukewarm reception like COTCC had (although I adore COTCC and it didn't deserve the hate) from the fans and GP. (Although when LFL album was released its reception was great from fans and GP until it started receiving hate from fans in 2018?) My unpopular opinion is that the Lust For Life album we have, is flawless and perfect but that's of course matter of taste and choices. Without the so-called changes and the final product of the current Lust For Life, we definitely wouldn't have NFR and all the albums what followed it.

Here it is 🪐 https://youtu.be/HT7uEg4Z2A0 That's probably unpopular opinion because I have never seen anyone talking about this but the intro of Watercolor Eyes really reminds me of the intro of Creep.

From BOZ website about Say Yes To Heaven: "That was until 2016 sessions for Lust For Life welcomed a bunch of producers invited to help Lana curate her new vision of more modern soundscape for the record. One of them, Fred Gibson (better known as Fred again...) joined the already long list of people taking their shot at perfecting Say Yes To Heaven. Although his contribution to Lust For Life era ended up being scrapped altogether, the song got richer in brand new version, this time more electronic and upbeat." Does this mean that other songs (besides SYTH), Fred Gibson and Lana made together in the LFL sessions got scrapped too? Or did he only do SYTH? Also, I'm confused about that: "her new vision of more modern soundscape for the record" - does the record mean as song like Say Yes To Heaven or as album like Lust For Life?

THE MODERN MANIFESTO OF LUST FOR LIFE - EXPLAINED! One of the things I figured about Lust For Life was that you can split the album's songs into 4 "EPs" (since the album has 16 tracks). First 2 EPs are combination of her older sound and aesthetics, describing the world inside Lana. Last 2 EPs are combination of her newer sound and aesthetics, describing the world outside Lana. Also I noticed that in the end of Lust For Life trailer, she said in the monologue: "Because you, and the music, and this place, are my LOVE, my LIGHT, my LUST for LIFE." So, I split the songs into 4 "EPs" and named each "EP" after those keywords based on the themes. EP LOVE 1. Love 2. Lust For Life 3. 13 Beaches 4. Cherry EP LUST 1. White Mustang 2. Summer Bummer 3. Groupie Love 4. In My Feelings EP LIGHT 1. Coachella - Woodstock In My Mind 2. God Bless America - And All The Beautiful Women In It 3. When The World Was At War We Kept Dancing 4. Beautiful People Beautiful Problems EP LIFE 1. Tomorrow Never Came 2. Heroin 3. Change 4. Get Free

On December 21, 2017, she posted LA To The Moon Tour trailer on her Instagram (lanadelrey one) and captioned "LA to the Moon and Back". It's still on YouTube and it's also reposted on Instagram (lanadelreysposts)!

These are from March 19th, 2016. I believe she was recording Malibu/Get Free there because then a week ago, she was in Malibu. Although maybe she was recording Love because she met Emile Haynie few days before that.

I don't think so because I believe she stopped working with Rick in December 2017/January 2018 because right after she started working non-stop with Jack.

I believe she wrote and recorded Yosemite in January/February 2017 and I think that the happy-healthy relationship themes on that song made her rewrote the lyrics in TNBAR on more positive note. I think she finally scrapped those two songs after she broke up with G-Eazy. Because these songs were too happy for her then mindset and wrote songs with angrier moodset instead like White Mustang and In My Feelings. Lana mentioned those 4 political outtakes in Billboard 2017 interview!

Didn't Jack Antonoff also mention that those bombastic NFR outtakes are girl-group tracks like The Shangri-Las?

Also, people tend to forget that the version of TNBAR that was in NFR was already intended to be on the final version of LFL because in an interview in 2017, Lana said that TNBAR is about Topanga and such.