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I "remember" seeing the Rehab title on a MySpace screenshot, i want to say late 2011/early 2012, but my brain may be filling in that false memory.

Come on Sitar, i <3 U but you know it's true. She'd be indifferent toward you. You're way too old to go up to her yelling and crying like a 14 year old girl with a sharpie in your hand, gaining her love with your cute dedication, but you're not old and skeevy enough for her to really notice you and eagerly give you a taste of her Pepsi Cola. You're in the weird middle ground, evil, the no man's land. We're there together. Pass me a beer.

God, look at this. I was searching for info on Fiona's new song, Dull Tool, to see if my suspicion that it's a Jon Brion production was correct, and i came across this Slate article that is still, more than seven years later, perpetuating the myth that Extraordinary Machine was delayed by the record company: "Musically, it’s a sequel to Apple’s previous albums with Brion—their last collaboration was infamously delayed by the label for years and never released in its original form." This kind of stuff really bugs me. Some myths never die, i guess. Especially when the myth centers around the romantic notion of an unjust struggle between the Artist and the Record Busine$$. There's this knee jerk reaction to side with the Artist and assume they're being manipulated and kicked around by the guys in suits. A lot of people can't or don't want to wrap their head around the idea of the big, bad major label giving the artist total freedom, endless resources, and all the time in the world to do exactly as the artist pleases, only to make the decision to shelve their own work. It's easier to create a villain to deflect blame from one's hero.

Wait...

This was my same thought as i was reading that. Maddy is the ~ iconoclast ~ of LanaBoards. Here's another question to add to this great thread: Should Back to tha Basics have been on Born to Die since they both have "to" in their title???????

Lizzi and i were buds on Makeoutclub and then she added me on Friendster when that came along, but then when MySpace became all the rage, she dropped me like a turd. I do remember CG saying she met her in the Lizzy days.

I had totally forgotten about Alternative Nation with Kennedy. She annoyed me but i was attracted to her. This is almost verbatim what i wrote to her in part of an email i sent her sometime in late 2011. Then i found out she was no longer using that email address. Yeah, i remember all that. Remember when Faith No More did Epic and Mike Patton was punching a weird, life-size Hitler doll? What about 2 Live Crew doing Me So Horny? My home town Miami reprazentin on national TV (gosh, i remember around this time you could not escape 2 Live Crew in the local news and parents were outraged haa). Or how about Madonna and Arsenio flirting hardcore for like half an hour? But nothing on that show was more amazing than this. SUCH a great, awkward moment in TV history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6W5_CSk044 I remember waiting for Poison (gawd, haa) to come on and then this happened and i had no idea what was going on. One last note...this whole thread makes me think of this portion of a Frank Zappa interview. I don't care much for Zappa's music, but i really like and respect him a lot as a person, and i'm usually in agreement with a lot of his politics. What he says here i agree with 100%. I love this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TMqS4F7Zc4

Okay, Fred Durst? If that's the case, i'd rather hang out all day with Dave Navarro and record an album with him and grab dinner together. I would let Dave Navarro slap my face with his dick before i would want or even consider anything involving Fred Durst other than shooting his limp body into deep space.

A lot of these speculations seem to be leaving no room for evolving naturally. It's not as if there was one course or another for her career, each following one, rigid line. BTD being her major label debut doesn't mean she's just going to churn out a variation of that sound/style every year or two, just as there's no reason to believe that she'd be releasing a variation of AKA every year or two had that record been released on a major. I just came across this article and thought it was relevant to this and pretty funny: M.I.A. Album Delayed Because Label Thinks It's Too Positive. Don't know how truthful she's being though. It was actually the opposite, which is baffling. If you recall, when the media was blowing up at the end of last year with all of the "exposés" about her, their bizarre and totally unfounded claim was that she was toiling away in obscurity as a kind of pop princess that was now trying to erase her past and garner "indie cred." Uhhhhhh... There is no guarantee of that. Again, that wouldn't be a rerelease, it would be a rerecording of the album, and all of this talk would then be moot. AKA is a completed, released album with a big name producer, not a collection of demos. If the album is going to be rereleased then it's going to be rereleased. The only possible change that could be done to it while still constituting a rerelease is the album being remastered. Anything else being done to it is another story. The one time she mentioned anything (i believe there's only been one mention of it, right?) she said it would be rereleased, she didn't say she was redoing the record. And remember that the rights to the original recordings have been bought by her/Interscope.

Kahne is a "bigger" producer than Emile Haynie. Also, AKA is not more "stripped back" than BtD, it's just produced (and engineered) differently. Those are different scenarios. There has been talk of AKA being rereleased, not rerecorded.

Ha, i was going to mention you too but i couldn't think of a funny MTV scenario involving you as a little kid. I still have some of my VHS tapes of stuff i recorded from MTV. Headbangers Ball, 120 Minutes, MTV News, etc. Interspersed throughout these tapes are music performances on the ARSENIO HALL Show. Oh man, remember Adam Curry? Of course you do. I wanna hear that! I can totally see this. I would so watch that. And i'd expect you to infuse the show with a heavy dose of feminism.

Haa i watched those two also (amongst others). Party of Five, Wednesday nights at 8. What tragedy will strike the Salinger family this week. I raise you Daniel Johnston. A little elusive at first, but the message is in there:

You know, every time she says this i think of the episode of My So-Called Life when Angela is at the house party and Jordan Catalano is trying to have sex with her. Am i alone in thinking this? My So-Called Life? Anyone? .... Naw, i bet PrettyBaby sat in front of the tube as a kid swooning over Axl Rose and other hair boys. Also, while we're on the subject. 1985: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oCPNMZuWwI

I was sitting at my kitchen table having some tea when i looked across the way over at a tall tree. I noticed a little bird, a cardinal, high up in one of the branches. It was speaking to another bird, a little finch, and it said, "Just because there's a Thread for Minor, General Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread doesn't mean the search function is now obsolete." It was the damndest thing. Anyway, my tea is getting cold, i better go.

I agree that she isn't made for this industry, and that she often becomes defensive in interviews, but i actually wasn't referring to interviewers pushing her with their questions. What i meant was that sometimes they seem to be treating her as if she's some kind of freak or just a complete novelty and nothing more.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Sunkist. Or is that not around anymore? I haven't had it since probably 1992 or something. He probably did and she's just changing the story now.

So often when i read interviews with her i get this image of someone gawking at her with furrowed brows, probing her with a stick, looking underneath her, turning her over, spinning her around, tapping her, asking aloud, "What is it? What do we do with this?" I find the underlying attitude toward her in a lot of interviewers really tiring. Maybe i'm just misreading them though, i don't know. Does anyone get this impression?

Hmm, that seems plausible. Maybe we should ask evil about this? He probably had similar experiences when he was first learning about the internet. I bet he could provide some insight into the thought process of old people.

Nice. I learned how to sing from a decade+ of obsessively listening to/studying The Beach Boys (though i still can't pick apart their harmonies). This is such a great way to learn, singing along, in a mindful and kind of analytical way, to an artist with whom you're really familiar. It may be a slower process than traditional methods, but it's a great, indispensable teacher. It goes for music in general too--nothing is a better music educator, i think, than just obsessively listening (critically) to records.

I don't really either. This place might implode in a matter of days.

Well, you see, you may not have noticed but there are a couple of new arrivals who appear to be spreading their seed quite thoroughly.

^ Yeah, totally. You guys would be publicly getting into the bootleg business and jeopardizing the entire forum. Think about this, kiddies. Though i'm not too worried--i really doubt that any of these companies/websites are going to fulfill your order.

You don't need to ask. Pressing mp3s on a record (and i'm guessing this site is using cheap vinyl because it's for self-published stuff?) is pointless. It is not in any way taking advantage of the medium. And as theFuture noted, music has to be mastered differently/specifically for vinyl, which they would not be able to do even if they offered that service (which they wouldn't at that price). Regarding time length, it's not like an actual limitation the way it is with the amount of data/time that can physically fit on a CD-R--you can technically press a long album on a 12" but the more music you put on it, the more the quality suffers. So it's not that it can't be done, it's just not done for a good reason. I advise you all not to waste your money on this unless you’re doing it solely for the novelty of having your own personal copy of a quasi-unreleased album on a big, black plastic disc, which seems to be the case, so i guess carry on. Oh yeah, and then there's copyright issues...

256 kbps mp3 quality with lots of surface noise from (probably) low grade vinyl that will probably already come slightly warped and have a lot of anomalies

Naw, i wouldn’t go that far and say that i corrected you. We’re just talking and exchanging ideas here. You stated your opinion, i disagreed with it and i explained why. Your opinion is no less valid or correct than mine or anyone else’s. And no need to apologize for your post, haa. Continuing on this subject though, because i think there's a lot of good stuff to talk about here, something i love so much about Lana Del Rey is how much of a ‘90s/early 2000s kid she is. Nirvana, Britney Spears, Guns N' Roses, Biggie Smalls, but with that very crucial component of having one foot planted firmly in the past, and all the inspirations and obsessions that come along with that--Elvis, Americana, old Hollywood, etc. She’s a little too old to have grown up with the internet and YouTube, but she’s still very much a product of it. That is just so apparent in all her homemade videos. And part of that is the whole webcam aesthetic: kids sitting in their poorly-lit room in front of the computer, un-self-consciously hamming up the camera, knowing you’re alone in your room, that no one is looking, you’ve got your ridiculous wigs on and you’re dancing like a fool. There are no pretenses there about the “right” lighting and camera angles and even picture quality. Forget that, leave that to the people who already shot the footage that she’s stealing and splicing into her videos. And i even love the fact that rather than, say, scouring for old VHS videos at the library and thrift stores, she just gets the footage directly off of YouTube, including the atrocious quality and compression artifacts. It’s like she’s wearing it on her sleeve and reminding us that she’s of her generation and time. It’s great, i don’t think she’s trying to fool anyone or pretend as if she transcends her era or anything. And i think this is where a lot of the magic in her whole persona, artistry, and aesthetic comes in--that highly idiosyncratic conflation of influences, styles, and ethos that form something without precedent. She is neither here nor there, but at the same time, as i mentioned before, she’s totally right here in the present, sort of holding a mirror up to the past--albeit a highly romanticized one. She could not have materialized as the artist we have come to know as Lana Del Rey any other way or time but the here and now. Oh, and what you said about how she pushes your buttons...that, too, is why i’m here right now. She’s flawed and a lot of her choices are rather questionable. But that’s exciting. I don't want some perfect package that is always doing the right and artistically-sound thing. I want the hiccups, missteps, the warts and all. The Brite Lites video, a little embarrassing? Sure. And like you yourself said, awkward. But that’s a real person sitting in their home without any pretenses, and that sort of clumsy, incongruous pairing of music style and imagery is refreshingly baffling and inviting. At least i think so.