rancidgirl 5,264 Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Coloringbooks said: They didn't force her to sing these. the three ones you listed are co-written by her and they're bops i didn’t say they weren’t good songs all of them are good i listen to them all the time BUT it’s still weird idk.. like @EmptyPromisessaid 1 Quote the last rancid girl in a rancid world and i don't seem to mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
painkiller 372 Posted October 6, 2023 18 hours ago, FlorenceAndTheMachine said: So I want to know what you guys think of this. I’m not sure how long you’ve known Sky.. but I find it interesting how she was played in a lot of gay bars a long time ago. Songs like obsession and one were often performed in bars with half naked men. A relic of this is on youtube if you search “Sky Ferreira performs at SPLASH” on youtube. Many guys who identify as queer around my age also know Sky Ferreira but they only know those two songs.. could it be that Capitol Records was pushing her to be an early version of Ke$ha? Like.. a sexualized innocent girl? Possibly industry plant her in the queerbait.. regardless, she was very young and made to perform in raunchy places. on the topic of how terribly sexualized she was when she was still a minor in her career, look at this terrible interview from when she was 16?? "Prior to meeting 16-year-old Sky Ferreira in her hometown of LA, I mentally envision a sketchy Roman Polanski-esque aftermath to our first encounter. The V-card-holding model and soon-to-be-pop star chills in LA clubs that I can’t even get into. She can hold engaging conversations with people twice her age. She’s gospel-trained with the same vocal range as Mariah Carey and prefers Sarah Brightman to Cat Power. What’s not to desire? It’s practically a setup for “Catch a Predator.” the opening lines are disturbing enough 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lonely lonely night 4,968 Posted October 7, 2023 6 hours ago, EmptyPromises said: She was like 17 though. Honestly, that era of songs and Seventeen itself only remind me of trauma and a young person coping, and we know her upbringing wasn't all ideal. i mean i was sucking and fucking when i was 17 idk. i've never really gotten the impression that she was apprehensive about presenting in a sexual way, was it not her decision to go completely nude on her album cover? red lips music video, a bunch of other stuff with terry richardson, various topless photoshoots, multiple sex scenes in lords of chaos, playboy, etc, although the fact that her only songs that are explicitly about sex were all released by the time she was 19 is weird. i'm sure there was a label push which is gross, i guess my point is i can see her sincerely standing behind the sexual aspect of her artistry at the time given how much she has embraced it in later years. i would be curious to hear her retrospective thoughts on it 52 minutes ago, painkiller said: on the topic of how terribly sexualized she was when she was still a minor in her career, look at this terrible interview from when she was 16?? "Prior to meeting 16-year-old Sky Ferreira in her hometown of LA, I mentally envision a sketchy Roman Polanski-esque aftermath to our first encounter. The V-card-holding model and soon-to-be-pop star chills in LA clubs that I can’t even get into. She can hold engaging conversations with people twice her age. She’s gospel-trained with the same vocal range as Mariah Carey and prefers Sarah Brightman to Cat Power. What’s not to desire? It’s practically a setup for “Catch a Predator.” the opening lines are disturbing enough yeah this is profoundly disgusting lol. honestly so bizarre that something like this was able to go to print, even back then 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeboe30 155 Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, painkiller said: with the same vocal range as Mariah Carey 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlorenceAndTheMachine 15 Posted October 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Coloringbooks said: They didn't force her to sing these. the three ones you listed are co-written by her and they're bops I don’t mean to become a freesky girl but she did write so many rando songs and only a few were approved by the label. I've also remember her dressing in miniskirts and throwing herself on the floor like a stripper years before NTMT. I have been thinking about this lately because she talks about how the label advised her to dress and act a certain way. I’m starting to think it’s about this particular slut era and not the tumblr fashion girl era. It’s such a disconnect from her myspace and ntmt persona. at times i honestly don’t blame her for wanting to enjoy her liberty.. though it did f up her career with the wrong choices. If she was told to write many songs and only a portion got approved, I’m thinking she was encouraged to on those undertones. She often mixes up sexuality with horror now and it almost feels like a psychological response to that experience. It’s what she was made out to be and is more familiar with now so she takes advantage of it to express herself. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyBlueBaby 3,330 Posted October 7, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 5:38 AM, 111 said: Hide contents 2013 October 29th - Sky Ferreira releases her long-awaited debut album Night Time, My Time. 2014 November 21st - In an interview with Billboard, Sky announces that she is already working on her sophomore album and describes its sound as "heavier"and "a blend of everything". The same night, she debuts Guardian at a concert in LA. November 30th - Sky shares a snippet of the Guardian demo on Instagram and announces that she will release it "next year" alongside a video directed by Grant Singer. (This never happens) December 22nd - Sky posts on Instagram that she is "anxious/ready" to start making her second album. 2015 February 10th - via Twitter, Sky announces that the name of her sophomore album begins with an M. April 6th - Sky updates her Instagram bio to include 'Masochism' alongside 'Night Time, My Time', fuelling speculation that it is the name of her upcoming sophomore album. She later confirms this on Twitter. May 11th - Sky tweets that a new song/film directed by Grant Singer will come out in the summer. (This never happens) June 3rd - Via Instagram, Sky announces that Guardian is coming out in the summer and shares another snippet. (This never happens) July 2nd - Sky posts a drawing by Lucas David on Instagram and captions it "2016 #MASOCHISM... UP FIRST IS #Guardian (summer 2015)". (This never happens) October 6th - Sky makes an Instagram post confirming that she is still working on Masochism and to have patience. December 15th - Sky makes an Instagram post stating the first song from Masochism will be released in early 2016. (This never happens) 2016 January 1st - In a New Year's post on Instagram, Sky states that we will hear new music "this year". (this never happens) February 16th - In an interview with Dazed Magazine, Sky announces that she is still recording Masochism but that it is due for release in the summer. (This never happens) March 21st - Sky tweets that she is working on Masochism and that there is no delay as she never gave a release date. July 6th - Sky tweets that she is writing her album in response to fans asking where it is. September 22nd - Sky posts her Playboy Magazine covers on Instagram and calls them a "visual introduction" to Masochism. October 22nd - In an Instagram post, Sky says she is making music in her hotel room. November 25th - Sky tweets that she "can't wait" to put out music. December 9th - Sky tweets that she can't wait to "put out/make music without having to spit blood", suggesting label drama. 2017 January 6th - Sky tweets that there is no album delay as she never announced a release date for Masochism. January 31st - Sky posts an image of the Capitol Records building on Instagram, captioning it "glue yr wigs", suggesting an imminent release. March 21st - Sky tweets that her album is "starting to shape up nicely" in her head. July 17th - In an Instagram post, Sky states that she is working on new music quietly and that people above her are responsible for the lack of new music but that these problems are being solved and she is planning on making and putting something out "soon". September 13th - In another Instagram post, Sky announces that she is putting out new music "very soon", although it is not Masochism. October 20th - Sky mentions that she is in a mixing session in an Instagram post. November 4th - Via her Instagram Story, Sky says that she is not currently well enough to release Masochism but that new music and a video are coming "extremely soon". November 20th - Sky tweets that she is ill and can't put out a tonne of music all at once because she doesn't feel well enough to promote and tour it. December 11th - Sky posts on Instagram that new music is coming within 60 days. (This never happens) December 19th - Via her Instagram story, Sky once again affirms that new music (a series of songs, not Masochism) is coming out "really really" soon in early 2018. (This never happens) December 21st - Track Records posts an open letter to Sky asking her to release new music, to which she replies that new music is coming "this winter". (This never happens) December 22nd - In an interview with The FADER, Sky announces that she still does not feel well enough to release a full album and that she is instead putting out a "heavily visual" EP that will begin to be released in February or March "for sure". (This never happens) December 23rd - In a reply to a fan demanding music on Twitter, Sky states that she is releasing new music "very soon". 2018 January 10th - Sky posts an image on Instagram and announces that it is the first official photo from her upcoming music release. February 8th - A fan asks Sky where new music is considering the 60 days she mentioned before is almost up, to which she replies "I never gave a date. People need to stop putting non existent dates on things. I was talking about something else." She also says that a winter release is still happening. (This never happens) April 10th - Sky announces that she is finally mixing Guardian (4 years after first performing it live) via her Instagram story. June 6th - In a long post on Instagram, Sky announces that new music is "finally happening" and that she is waiting for the official release date (presumably from her label) before announcing her single(s), suggesting a double release. July 6th - Via Instagram, Sky states that she is putting the finishing touches to her first two singles and writes "Masochism, finally", suggesting that the EP has been cancelled. July 30th - In a reply to a fan asking about Masochism on Twitter, Sky says that the first single involves "a fire baptism". July 31st - Sky posts her Voices Carry cover on her Soundcloud and in the description mentions that she will be sharing more information about Masochism on there. She also gives a hint about one of her first two singles: "There's a fire on your street". September 26th - On her Instagram story, Sky shares an image of files and states that she is listening to each singular track in order and making notes on them before properly arranging and finishing them. September 30th - Sky confirms via Instagram that Guardian will have a separate release after she puts out brand new music, although she is still writing songs and is not sure of Masochism's final tracklist yet. October 10th - On her Instagram story, Sky writes "it's being made" and puts the location as Capitol Records, suggesting Masochism is finally on its way. November 5th - On her Instagram story, Sky announces that she has finally finished her first single in almost five years. November 14th - Sky posts on Instagram "this winter... it is official!" November 17th - In a reply to a fan asking about Masochism on Twitter, Sky tells them that her first single comes out "this winter" although she is still waiting for the official release date due to label technicalities. November 18th - Sky replies to another fan on Twitter and tells them that new music will be released before March. (This never happens) 2019 February 9th - Sky posts on Instagram and captions the photo "!!!!!!MARCH!!!!!!!" fuelling speculation that new music is coming in March. March 6th - Sky tweets that she is releasing new music this month (for real) March 11th - Sky replies to a fan asking where the new music is, telling them "end of March". March 15th - Sky posts on Instagram and once again affirms that her single is coming out in March, although she fails to specify an exact date despite the fact that it is halfway through March already. March 21st - Sky announces that her new single - and first official release in almost 6 years - "Downhill Lullaby" will be released on 27th March. March 26th - In a Pitchfork interview Sky talks about her meticulous recording and mixing process and reveals a few details about Masochism, including that it is "almost positively" going to be released in 2019. (This never happens) March 27th - Sky releases "Downhill Lullaby". April 1st - Sky teases "Don't Forget", a song she talked about in her Pitchfork interview, on her Instagram story. April 28th - A month after its release, Sky announces that a music video and an alternate version of "Downhill Lullaby" are on the way. May 16th - "Guardian" leaks online, almost 5 years after Sky first premiered it live. July 19th - Sky premieres "Descending" live at the Pitchfork Music Festival in Chicago and says that it is coming "very soon". September 21st - Sky replies "yes" to a fan on Instagram who asks her "are we getting anything new?". Sky does not specify a date. September 28th - Sky asks her followers on Instagram is they would be interested in a "vvv special limited series MASOCHISM podcast". She gives no further details. October 10th - Sky announces that she is releasing new music "right before the decade is over" on Instagram. (This never happens) November 9th - Sky posts a picture on Instagram with the caption "THIS WINTER". She deletes the post minutes later. (It is worth noting that Sky has now announced she will be releasing music for the past 3 consecutive winters, with only one song actually being released) November 10th - Sky tweets that she has new music "coming out very soon". November 12th - Sky once again affirms that new music is coming out but she is currently "not at liberty to say when". December 2nd - Sky replies to a fan asking for new music and tells them that her first two singles are being mixed/mastered and that the date for their release is TBC because "they aren't Christmas songs". She also mentions that it "hasn't been" her year. December 21st - Sky tweets that she finished her singles "a while ago" and that, once again, they aren't Christmas songs and she wants them to be released properly considering her struggles with releasing music. December 30th - Sky tweets that she "can't wait to start the decade off right", suggesting an early 2020 release for new music. (This never happens) 2020 January 1st - Sky states that she "can't wait" for fans to hear the new music she just finished. February 2nd - Sky's mom reposts a picture of Sky in the studio on her Instagram story with the caption "Sky has something boiling get ready people I've heard the new album" suggesting Masochism is complete and awaiting release. February 18th - Sky's mom shares that Sky had surgery the previous week via her Instagram story. February 19th - Sky responds to a fan's Instagram comment saying that she had to have surgery so she could "finally release music", adding that she'd explain the situation once she had recovered. February 24th - Sky responds to an angry fan on Instagram demanding new music, stating that she finished what she is putting out "a while ago" but that she is still dealing with health issues. April 6th - In a series of Tweets, Sky once again states she has finished all the songs she is "putting out first", but "obviously can't give a release date" due to the ongoing Coronavirus pandemic as she wants it to have a proper release under normal circumstances. April 8th - Sky replies to a comment on her Instagram post asking her to release at least one single, telling the fan that it's not the right time and that she has to make artwork and videos before releasing anything, which she can't currently do due to the lockdown. June 23rd - Sky deletes her Twitter account. August 6th - Sky replies to a fan asking about new music on Instagram, affirming once again that she has finished her singles and is waiting for the coronavirus crisis to be over so she can make videos and perform the songs live. She also states that she is personally aiming for a 2020 release, although that is dependent on how the pandemic turns out. August 19th - “I Pray For Rain” leaks online. October 4th - Sky tells a fan on Instagram that “I Pray For Rain” is not scrapped, but people leaking it aren’t helping. October 18th - Sky says if she can’t release Masochism, she’ll try to release an EP of covers “on Soundcloud or something” (This never happens) November 8th - “Legends” leaks online. November 8th - Sky replies to a fan on Instagram, saying that her “album couldn’t exist during the Trump presidency”. December 7th - Sky gives an interview and admits that she is “a bit of a perfectionist”. December 20th - Sky insinuates Capitol Records is at fault for the delays, not her. She also states Masochism being released randomly is her worst nightmare. December 30th - Sky tells a fan on Instagram that an album leak would ruin her life, but she’ll release other things. 2021 January 9th - Sky finds a "lost cover" of David Bowie’s "All the Madmen" and uploads it to Instagram. January 28th - A fed up fan tells Sky to release the album and says Halsey was right for calling her a spoiled little rich girl. Sky claims the anger is misdirected and her 20s have been robbed from her. She continues to make reference to behind the scenes people stopping her from releasing. January 29th - “All to Myself”, “Always Ready To Lose You”, and “Hurt By You” leak online. March 6th - Sky gives an interview to the Patreon podcast Not Really and states said that the album is 70% complete and that something is coming April 2. (This never happens) March 21st - Sky tells a fan on Instagram people behind the scenes are dragging out the album release and refusing to fully support it. April 1st - Sky likes a petition that suggests Capitol is refusing to release Sky’s music, and demands them to allow her to release the album. May 25 - It is announced that Sky will perform at Primavera Sound 2022 on June 11th. Sky likes a comment asking if she will release music before the festival. September 24th - A fan asks for the information of Sky’s label so they can get the album released, to which Sky responses with “I will take you up on the offer if I don’t receive answers within the next 14 days”. October 29th - On Night Time, My Time’s 8th birthday Sky posts to Instagram: “NEW MUSIC RELEASE DATE CONFIRMED: let’s just say…uh… ~it comes in like a lion and goes out like a lamb~ ????”. This is a proverb for March, however, it should be noted that she does not specify March of which year. December 19th - Stereogum included Masochism as their 4th most anticipated album of 2022. Sky responds on her Instagram stories and says “It happens every year but it’s actually coming out this time”, implying Masochism will be released in 2022. (This never happens) 2022 January 23rd - Sky’s mother posts to Instagram “new album coming march”. January 25th - Sky’s mom posts to her stories on Instagram that “It’s happening soon”. Sky herself posts a photo to her Instagram Stories and captions it “I’m not lying! xoxo”. March 31st - After radio silence about the album all month, Sky posts “wrath and death threats pause until April please & thanks love you xoxo Sky”. Then, both Sky and Capitol Records post a teaser video for “Don’t Forget” on Instagram. She captions it “remember me?” April 19th - Sky posts a photo, which appears to be a cover art, to Instagram with the location of purgatory. April 26th - Sky signs a publishing deal with Third Side Music, an independent music publisher. In a press release, it is said they are going to “represent her new song catalog worldwide, develop collaborations with other artists, songwriters and producers, as well as foster unique opportunities in film, TV, advertising, trailers, games and more. May 2nd - Sky attends the MET Gala. When asked about the album, she says "You think I’d be here at 3 A.M. if I didn’t have new music to promote? Actually, yes, I would be. This party, it’s not like you can miss it.” May 9th - “Don’t Forget” leaks online. May 10th - ATRL insider RideOrDie announces that “Don’t Forget” will be released on May 19th at 11pm UK Time. May 25th - Sky releases "Don't Forget". May 25th - Sky gives an interview to Vulture. She says would like to write some more songs for the album, but she is "100 percent confident" Masochism will be released in 2022. (This never happens) May 27th - Sky calls Pitchfork "painfully lazy" for their poor review of "Dont' Forget" and not crediting Sky as a producer of the song. June 9th - Sky performs at the NOS Primavera Sound festival in Porto, Portugal. She arrives 20 minutes late and performs Don't Forget for the first time. She debuted "Innocent Kind", an unreleased track" for the first time. June 11th - Sky performs at Primavera Sound 2022 in Barcelona, Spain. She debuts "All My Lovers Die". June 17th - In an interview with the Guardian, Sky blames a lot of the delays on her label, Capitol Records. She claims they have stopped her from working with many in the industry by labelling her as "mentally ill", "difficult", "unprofessional", and a "drug addict". She also said to her label "You have literally ruined my life... My life was taken from me. It’s not just like a job to me. It’s literally me. It was like literally being in solitary confinement. I felt like I was gagged and bound.” She also went to extensive auditions for the Madonna biopic. June 17th - In an interview with NME, Sky states Masochism is "basically done for the most part, it’s just that some parts need to be re-recorded," she says. "Just the finishing touches, really." August 29th - Sky speaks to Nancy Sinatra for Interview Magazine. Both of the singers relate to being pigeonholed early on in their career to a bubble gum image. Sky states she can be very critical of herself, and fixate on things. The interview also states that "Masochism will finally appear this year". (This never happens) September 26th - Sky speaks to Dazed magazine, and acknowledges that people think the problem (for the album delays) is her. She "thought that for a long time", but now mainly believes its her label's fault. She claims a video for "Don't Forget" is coming, but gets frustrated while talking about it. November 27th - "Descending" leaks online. December 24th - "The Woods", an alleged track for Masochism, leaks online. 2023 As of January 2nd, 2023 there is no official release date for Masochism i'm excited for the 2023/24 updates! My god......is it fair to say she's been edging people all along? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimKaDAB 3,892 Posted October 7, 2023 3 hours ago, painkiller said: "I mentally envision a sketchy Roman Polanski-esque aftermath to our first encounter. The V-card-holding model [...]" THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS SHOULD BE LOCKED FOREVER IN JAIL, I'M NOT EVEN EXAGGERATING 5 Quote Janelle Monáe • Sky Ferreira • Grace Jones • Spellling • FKA twigs • Kate Bush • Kylie Minogue • Charli XCX • Carly Rae Jepsen • LOOΠ∆ • Red Velvet • Janet Jackson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peppers 635 Posted October 7, 2023 I've finally decided to get into her music, I heard a bit of Guardian and it sounded great What covers do y'all use for Masochism? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peppers 635 Posted October 7, 2023 I remember seeing a Masochism cover that used this picture, if anyone here has it PLEASE do share I've been desperately trying to find it but it's literally lost 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Violet 18,851 Posted October 7, 2023 I completely didn't realise that the Don't Forget lyrics were teased back in 2018. I feel so enraged 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,888 Posted October 7, 2023 Not to discount those predatory fantasies of the writer but why is Mariah Carey a point of reference when it comes to Skys vocals e.g. that one person last year saying she’s an amazing singer in the vein of Mariah, Mariah 2.0 song I mean…😭 I still struggle to believe she has opera training because she struggles to project any high notes. maybe she could deliver 2023 Mariah with extensive vocal training 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
111 36,610 Posted October 7, 2023 sky, who can barely sing most of her songs without "sound issues"... being compared to THE mariah carey... greatest vocalist of all times... i've seen it all 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,888 Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, 111 said: sky, who can barely sing most of her songs without "sound issues"... being compared to THE mariah carey... greatest vocalist of all times... i've seen it all The real vocalist of our generation whitney was trembling 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,888 Posted October 7, 2023 The 4 octave range was getting those notes out Daisy Dares You, Marina and the Diamonds, Ke$ha - I was out, like, before all of them," she says, sounding every inch the coolly unimpressed Valley Girl, even though she recently moved from LA to New York and is doing this interview in an uptown Manhattan restaurant. "Why am I being told that I want to be like them?" she wonders, annoyed to be accused of copying acts that she predates. "I'm like the Christina Aguilera of the internet," she laughs, but she's not joking. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,888 Posted October 7, 2023 https://m.soundcloud.com/skyferreirasource/genie-in-a-bottle-snippet 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
111 36,610 Posted October 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Americanboy said: My god......is it fair to say she's been edging people all along? everyone arguing about who is to blame like someone had a gun to her head and forced her to lie every year multiple times for the last decade about an unfinished album that won't be released. i, 111, as the biggest sky hater, would be the first to support her if she had a mastered album that she delivered to capitol and was actively trying to get a release date. i hope anyone who is still a #freeskyferreira supporter realises she is actually free and needs to be locked up in a studio basement to finish up this album and releases it. no high budget music videos or lengthy singles campaigns or endless photoshoots, that'll teach her. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rancidgirl 5,264 Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, evalionisameme said: https://m.soundcloud.com/skyferreirasource/genie-in-a-bottle-snippet my space being on this account oh i need to know who actually sings that more than i wanna live seriosuly 0 Quote the last rancid girl in a rancid world and i don't seem to mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danny Milk 2,469 Posted October 7, 2023 14 hours ago, Peppers said: I remember seeing a Masochism cover that used this picture, if anyone here has it PLEASE do share I've been desperately trying to find it but it's literally lost 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melodrama 1,427 Posted October 8, 2023 Y'all I just woke up and run here to write this. Because I saw Masochism was releasing in my dreams, it was a surprise release like Problématique and it was coming out of nowhere. It had the best leaks + many unheard songs (i really don't know how my brain is able to create unheard/new songs in my dreams, happens with Lorde too and shocks me everytime because I wake up and remember those songs? Wish they were real. How am I even able to make songs? Maybe I should be a producer) anyways it was all just a dream we all know it's not gonna happen irl but now I wish it was all real so bad it was so good 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DownhillLullaby 5,114 Posted October 8, 2023 I'll never forget when I dreamt about Don't Forget music video, it was blurry and very blue and very 80's. It was so beautiful and when I woke up I wish it were real. /\ Also I'd like to share that I feel so relieved about all the leaked songs, unfortunately we've never wanted this to be the situation, we wanted them to be released but... Nowadays I feel like I'm in peace to just listen to Sky and enjoy it. No expectations at all. Hopefully one day things will work out for Sky and we would have a BIG WIN. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites