MARINA (and The Diamonds)

[Formation 4,193]

“Some asshole leaked it” honestly good for her for never backing down from the breach of privacy that leaking is. I am a big proponent that it commercially doesn’t actually impact artists (and honestly seems to help most), but ethically it’s objectively stealing. I would stay annoyed by it 

[Charlottexseax 7,966]

7 hours ago, vrtvie said:

 

god no

 

also this bitch keeps getting asked to add INHA to spotify and she still acts surprised by that, don't you wanna earn money girl???

where did she act surprised?? lol. But it’s totally her fault like she spent the entire love + fear tour playing it live and then was like I’m not gonna release it 

[AllForYou 1,707]

honestly her reaction seemed a little strange to me (clip for those who haven’t seen it) but maybe it’s a case of being overwhelmed by all those people in person wanting the song vs people typing in her comments?
 

if I were her I would have said ‘I have something special planned for FROOT’s anniversary’ as she’s alluded to it being on there already. I feel like people are going to assume she’s changed her mind again when it’s not on Spotify in the next few weeks.

[vrtvie 2,270]

well, that face meant being surprised, especially because so many people were there. but ig it's iconic that it's become her most-known unreleased song and generally liked by the fandom and not controversial lyricwise (unlike scab & plaster or jealousy right?).

 

she herself was saying that 'maybe i'll release it' or something like this and then she said 'well you have it on yt anyways' and now she's like 'wait y'all really want it???' again even tho she must've read all the comments already. i just don't understand it

[AtomicMess 3,456]

On 10/23/2024 at 6:31 AM, vrtvie said:

i just don't understand it

Me @ a lot of her career and relationships, honestly.

[LanaRayDelMar 2,743]

On 7/21/2024 at 3:22 AM, LanaRayDelMar said:

Does anyone have these source files archived since the site is down?

 

About Love demo snip https://dbree.org/v/0b90a0

Orange Trees concept demo https://dbree.org/v/e44851

You piano rework https://dbree.org/v/6862c0

You demo mix https://dbree.org/v/7e0b94

True demo 1https://dbree.org/v/6335af

True demo 2 https://dbree.org/v/ee3548

True demo 3 https://dbree.org/v/af5708

 

[DinahLee 6,231]

I'm pretty sure the I'm Not Hungry Anymore debacle is label politics and now that she's out of the label the chances are close to 00000,01% of happening. She probably gets torn because she explicitly said she was unhappy with the production (I'm not even sure if we got the fucking final song since the ramblings were that stans got stems and made their own version of it??) but saw the reaction was positive by fans; she performed it on Piano during Love + Fear Tour which also indicates she stripped down the whole thing, but also knows that fans wouldn't like to have a version that isn't the original so....

 

She probably reads so much shit that she probably gets happy to have some leverage with I'm Not Hungry Anymore lmao.

[Charlottexseax 7,966]

11 hours ago, DinahLee said:

I'm pretty sure the I'm Not Hungry Anymore debacle is label politics and now that she's out of the label the chances are close to 00000,01% of happening. She probably gets torn because she explicitly said she was unhappy with the production (I'm not even sure if we got the fucking final song since the ramblings were that stans got stems and made their own version of it??) but saw the reaction was positive by fans; she performed it on Piano during Love + Fear Tour which also indicates she stripped down the whole thing, but also knows that fans wouldn't like to have a version that isn't the original so....

 

She probably reads so much shit that she probably gets happy to have some leverage with I'm Not Hungry Anymore lmao.

No she owns the masters to all her music, she payed for the mixing and mastering of FROOT out of her own pockets and I’m pretty sure she said back during TFJ that she chose her label because it was the most beneficial to her. 
 

yes the song we have is basically a stem edit AFAIK because that’s what leaked (the stems). I don’t think the final is much different but certainly not identical.

 

IMO she just doesn’t wanna release it and that’s it

[vrtvie 2,270]

2 hours ago, Charlottexseax said:

No she owns the masters to all her music, she payed for the mixing and mastering of FROOT out of her own pockets and I’m pretty sure she said back during TFJ that she chose her label because it was the most beneficial to her. 
 

yes the song we have is basically a stem edit AFAIK because that’s what leaked (the stems). I don’t think the final is much different but certainly not identical.

 

IMO she just doesn’t wanna release it and that’s it

what she said about the label during tfj was a lie actually

[Charlottexseax 7,966]

1 minute ago, vrtvie said:

what she said about the label during tfj was a lie actually

 

oh okay. i'm sure i read that somewhere though. are you saying she didnt say it or she did say it and it was a lie? maybe i'm misremembering 

 

in any case, i'm pretty sure she does own the masters of froot 

[DinahLee 6,231]

4 hours ago, Charlottexseax said:

No she owns the masters to all her music, she payed for the mixing and mastering of FROOT out of her own pockets and I’m pretty sure she said back during TFJ that she chose her label because it was the most beneficial to her. 
 

yes the song we have is basically a stem edit AFAIK because that’s what leaked (the stems). I don’t think the final is much different but certainly not identical.

 

IMO she just doesn’t wanna release it and that’s it

 

 

Did she ever confirm owing the Master? Because paying for the Mix and Master it doesn't mean she owns the Masters. She also said a lot of shit like "bankrupted label lol" joke and how she wanted Bubblegum Bitch to be a single and they kept saying no, so "beneficial to her" is probably her cute way of saying "they were the ones with $$$ lol" in 2010. She'd probably Re-sign if they were a bed of roses.

 

But in the end, yes, like I said, she explicitly mentioned being unhappy with the song so... too much work for little return. 

[AllForYou 1,707]

Quote

 

How is the new album coming along?

I’m deep in production. I can’t say that much, but it’s very different. I haven’t made an album like this in a while. It feels very good, but at the same time, I’ve done this enough times where I just can never predict how people are going to feel about things. It’s not an indie record, because I feel like Ancient Dreams was really in [the alternative music] world, but it’s not like Love and Fear. It’s very much its own thing, but it feels very powerful, and very driven. I think that in the last year, just completing this book and recovering from a health issue, it’s put me in a very different place creatively. It just feels like a very fun, bright record.

 

 

[evalionisameme 13,889]

On 10/10/2024 at 6:01 PM, Charlottexseax said:

 

"What the fuck's wrong in your head to send me away? Never to come back?
Exotic places and people don't take the place of being your child. I give myself two seconds to cry

Let it crash over me like the waves in the sea, call me Aphrodite as they bow down to me"

 

"Need to purge the poison, show us our humanity
All the bad and good, racism and misogyny
Nothing's hidden anymore, capitalism made us poor
God, forgive America for every single war"

 

"Daddy, I miss them, I'm in the mountains
Probably runnin' away, I've been meaning to say
That there's nothing to do except know that this is how the light gets in
By cracking, the light gets in

Then you're golden"

 

"America, America, America
You can't bury the truth
It's time to pay your dues
America, this is a new America
Stars are shining for you
Sparkling red and blue"

 

its just slightly different... 

 

 

according to who? you? Ocean Boulevard and NFR are widely regarded as masterpieces by everyone. general public, critics, fans, etc.

 

 

this is also funny considering more than half of the songs on ancient dreams are slow ballads.

i wasn't trying to start a debate on who is better between marina and lana btw... it's not a debate really  

Lol I just saw this reply so apologies, well we all know the critics are always right- it was never a debate about whether Marina was better but it is the truth- an album should be varied and sonically unique which Lana hasn’t accomplished in years but she is talented for sure.

[Lana Del Dufrene 11,190]

Anyways marina is a flop if she doesn't release I'm Not Hungry Anymore

[evalionisameme 13,889]

The difficulty is most of ocean would have worked 10x better as poetry so her publishing them as actual songs with no replay value was odd.

[Embach 43,629]

37 minutes ago, AllForYou said:

 

To be honest, while I liked the snippets, the sound was very Marina tho

[Charlottexseax 7,966]

12 hours ago, evalionisameme said:

The difficulty is most of ocean would have worked 10x better as poetry so her publishing them as actual songs with no replay value was odd.

im sorry but i think that’s your issue.. I find ocean boulevard to have plenty of replay value, especially the more “verbose” songs like Fingertips or Kintsugi. Maybe you just didn’t connect with it as much which is okay. 
 

in fact, ocean boulevard contains some of her best melodies ever IMO and the same cannot be said for ADIAML whose melodies are pretty uninspired and stale 

[honey dew 11,795]

13 hours ago, evalionisameme said:

The difficulty is most of ocean would have worked 10x better as poetry so her publishing them as actual songs with no replay value was odd.

 OB is her best precisely because of its musicality .. as just poetry it would have only a fraction of the power that that album  holds

[vrtvie 2,270]

On 10/27/2024 at 1:45 PM, Charlottexseax said:

 

oh okay. i'm sure i read that somewhere though. are you saying she didnt say it or she did say it and it was a lie? maybe i'm misremembering 

 

in any case, i'm pretty sure she does own the masters of froot 

she did say and after a few years she explained it wasn't true, she was just masquerading during tfj era, same with saying she will never do pop lmao. basically Derek helped her.

[ChelseaLeeArts 2,955]

I found it so interesting that she said she doesn't feel like she has reached her peak yet. Music and popularity wise at the poetry book reading. I hope that's true, although I feel like that is going to stay as always being around the time of electra heart and froot