"Norman Fucking Rockwell" & "Chemtrails Over The Country Club" Album Recording/Writing Timeline + Creative Process Discussion

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[lanaismamom 11,463]

3 minutes ago, Lanaparadiserey said:

 

FINALLYYY

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On 6/19/2023 at 9:49 PM, Embach said:

Banisters definitely needs a one because it had an original concept Rock Candy Sweet and scrapped it when she met Erickson or something

yeah but in my head rcs and bb are kinda separate eras

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10 minutes ago, Lanaparadiserey said:

 

can we assume each of these songs has its nfr demo?

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1 minute ago, ImenaOphelia said:

can we assume each of these songs has its nfr demo?

I know Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost has a demo but I’m not sure about the rest 

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4 minutes ago, Lanaparadiserey said:

I know Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost has a demo but I’m not sure about the rest 

the leaked one? its fake

Also @Lindsay Lohanwould u know if she reworked LMLYLAW during nfr or after it, and is loved you then and now from nfr times or new

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3 minutes ago, Lanaparadiserey said:

I know Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost has a demo but I’m not sure about the rest 

if you talking about the upbeat demo, that shit is so ugly 

(and appearently fake)

Edited June 21, 2023 by ShadesOfViolence

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2 minutes ago, lanaismamom said:

the leaked one? its fake

Also @Lindsay Lohanwould u know if she reworked LMLYLAW during nfr or after it, and is loved you then and now is from nfr times or new

 

1 minute ago, ShadesOfViolence said:

if you talking about the upbeat demo, that shit is so ugly 

(and appearently fake)

Omg I didn’t know it was fake, I always thought it sounded weird😭

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I now need full nk x lana thing with BUS being one of the best song off the album

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many songs from COCC was probaly made during long break between singles from NFR OG version (11-track album) post-release and album release. that's why they're considerate as NFR scraps. i think i guess.

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Is Honeymouns still sure about that For Free is a NFR scrap? Because I remember Jack talking about For Free in an interview from 2021:

 

"I remember watching Lana play [Joni Mitchell’s] “For Free” with Zella Day and Weyes Blood — this completely remarkable moment at the Hollywood Bowl [in 2019] — and her being like, “Let’s put this on the record!” Like, holy shit! Of course! How could it not go on the record? That slipping of time — different generations of singers, playing songs of older artists they love at the Hollywood Bowl — of course that goes on [Chemtrails Over the Country Club]."

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if i remember well BoZ said that DBJAG was made in August 2019 and in September (?) 2019 Lana posted photo with caption "my cancer is sun, my leo is moon" or something like that.

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Yeah I’m not buying that Honeymouns list. He’s been wrong several times now + White Hot Forever was mentioned literally right when she released NFR…and she worked on NFR up until July 2019.

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8 minutes ago, Embach said:

Is Honeymouns still sure about that For Free is a NFR scrap? Because I remember Jack talking about For Free in an interview from 2021:

 

"I remember watching Lana play [Joni Mitchell’s] “For Free” with Zella Day and Weyes Blood — this completely remarkable moment at the Hollywood Bowl [in 2019] — and her being like, “Let’s put this on the record!” Like, holy shit! Of course! How could it not go on the record? That slipping of time — different generations of singers, playing songs of older artists they love at the Hollywood Bowl — of course that goes on [Chemtrails Over the Country Club]."

It might be unclear because at some point they started choosing songs to fill up the tracklist 

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On 6/19/2023 at 7:11 PM, Embach said:

I think that the last song (or one of the last) recorded for COTCC was Dark But Just A Game, because she said in an interview for MOJO (in 2021) that the Oscars 2020 Afterparty inspired her to write that song:

"A year or so ago, Del Rey attended a party with Jack Antonoff and St. Vincent at the house of Guy Oseary, manager of Madonna and U2. “Something happened,” she says, “kind of a situation like – never meet your idols. And I just thought, ‘I think it’s interesting that the best musicians end up in such terrible places.’ I thought to myself, ‘I’m going to try my best not to change because I love who I am.’ I said, ‘Jack, it’s dark.’ And he said, ‘Well, it’s dark – but I mean, it’s just a game.’” The incident inspires a song on Chemtrails - Dark But Just A Game"

 

 

Because of that ⬆️

I don't believe that DBJAG was recorded in 2019. She just used the Bird Word sample. They could've created the whole melody of the song in 2019 but Lana def wrote lyrics in 2020

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23 minutes ago, Embach said:

Is Honeymouns still sure about that For Free is a NFR scrap? Because I remember Jack talking about For Free in an interview from 2021:

 

"I remember watching Lana play [Joni Mitchell’s] “For Free” with Zella Day and Weyes Blood — this completely remarkable moment at the Hollywood Bowl [in 2019] — and her being like, “Let’s put this on the record!” Like, holy shit! Of course! How could it not go on the record? That slipping of time — different generations of singers, playing songs of older artists they love at the Hollywood Bowl — of course that goes on [Chemtrails Over the Country Club]."

For Free is definitely not an NFR scrap IMO.  Honeymouns’ tweet is only speculation 

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1 minute ago, Wait For Life said:

For Free is definitely not an NFR scrap.  Honeymouns’ tweet is only speculation 

Wasn’t it just recorded for the Grammys performance they did? 

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2 minutes ago, Lanaparadiserey said:

Wasn’t it just recorded for the Grammys performance they did? 

Well no, but it literally did not exist outside of Zella and Weyes..

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don’t you wonder what she meant when she told a fan “Neohumanism”? a change in self? transposing?