Paradise is an album. Yes or no?

[J03 568]

I treat it as an album it’s in own right. I just wish she’d of added Burning Desire, Young & Beautiful, Chelsea Hotel & LIB as standard tracks. Would of made a stellar 12 track record. 

[details 17,585]

considering violet a studio album is kinda insane honestly like… it's not even made of music  

 

sure, there's some instrumentals for ~ambience~ but it doesn't qualify as a song 

[keps2013 4,971]

 

Well yes!

 

It has a distinctive sound to me in my opinion, so including the outtakes and everything it is a whole project/experience 

[anangelforever 46]

I say yes too, it may be smaller than the rest of her albums but guys, yayo, cola, ride, American???? So many INCREDIBLE and simply breathtaking songs from an era that I for one, find so exiting, paradise is truly an incredible album if you ask me 

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[Come With Me 4,170]

Yes, it’s a beatiful album 

[shadesofblue 17,925]

I consider it an album. I see how people don’t think it is because lana considers it as an EP and the Paradise edition of BTD. But Paradise was released on its own without being merged with BTD. It has its own distinct era that’s different from BTD alone and 8 tracks seems a little long for an EP imo. Spotify classifies Paradise as an album too soo  

[Lindsay Lohan 11,200]

I feel like it being an album or not is irrelevant to the fact that it had it's own era

 

I consider it an EP but I also somewhat consider it LDR2 the same way I consider Violet to be LDR7

[Vertimus 9,796]

1 hour ago, anangelforever said:

I say yes too, it may be smaller than the rest of her albums but guys, yayo, cola, ride, American???? So many INCREDIBLE and simply breathtaking songs from an era that I for one, find so exiting, paradise is truly an incredible album if you ask me 

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[Glitter Boy 16,642]

I'll say that, despite it was marketed as an EP, yes, it is an album indeed. Length and tracks amount surpass those of an EP although it was marketed as such, probably due to the release proximity after Born to Die. Paradise ultimately has a sound of its own and I've never seen it as an extension of Born to Die cause they're pretty different anyway.

Little reminder that 9-track albums do exist:

FKA twigs - MAGDALENE

Björk - Vulnicura

Michael Jackson - Thriller

Madonna - Like a Virgin and True Blue

Duran Duran - Self Titled

Lykke Li - I Never Learn

and like a couple thousands more lol, they were very common in the 80s and 90s 

8-track albums too:

AURORA - Infections of a Different Kind

Lykke Li - EYEYE

Madonna - Self Titled

and many many more. So while it doesn't matter, it's pretty much an album. And an excellent one  I just wish I Don't Wanna Go and Young & Beautiful were officially added so this little *controversy* were nowhere to be found dddd

[daddyishere 352]

Saying that Paradise isn’t an album just because it isn’t long enough is like saying anyone 5’5” and below isn’t a person because they’re not tall enough. 
 

I agree that Paradise is an album, and I also think short people aren’t people. Both can be true.

 

Case closed 🫶🏻

[Dark Angel 204,635]

2 minutes ago, daddyishere said:

Saying that Paradise isn’t an album just because it isn’t long enough is like saying anyone 5’5” and below isn’t a person because they’re not tall enough. 
 

I agree that Paradise is an album, and I also think short people aren’t people. Both can be true.

 

Case closed 🫶🏻

 

as someone who's short, i can confirm i am, indeed, not a person  

[TropicoHeart 2,859]

On 1/13/2025 at 3:40 AM, DeadSeaOfMercury said:

No.

It’s an EP.

 

AKA,

BTD,

UV,

HM,

LFL,

NFR,

COCC,

BB,

DYK are the albums…

Why do people continue to claim that AKA is her debut when Lana personally has only ever called BTD her debut? She has refrenced BTD as her debut album countless of times. Just look at the racer jacket. Not ONCE has she given AKA that acknowledgment, why would she??

[TropicoHeart 2,859]

On 1/13/2025 at 4:06 PM, ChaoticLipster said:

It’s officially an EP, this is because it was sold with Born To Die combined.  Lana herself considers it a main album and project however and her second body of work.

It was also sold as a stand alone album aswell. I feel like you guys don’t really understand the difference between LPs and EPs. These are terms used back in the day for the total playtime of a vinyl.

An EP would use a smaller vinyl so it could only fit a few songs, like 4-5. An LP could fit more bc it was bigger. 

 

They’re both different forms of albums. An album or a record is a work of art, so why would you discredit Paradise as Lana’s work of art by saying it’s anything less than BTD or any other album?

And technically Paradise as a stand alone already counts as an LP bc it exceeds the typical playtime and total tracks of an EP. 

[slang 1,533]

Well I think it was her first Grammy nomination of consequence, and it was for Best Pop Vocal Album, and as I'm Lana-spelled-backwards with respect to "authority-figure" opinions on useless issues, I'll just go with that. Also, she might have considered it an album to begin with, then changed her mind later, because the album was shortish, and technically contained two cover songs. :^)

 

It's also a weird album in virtue of having a title with no title track. There's no song on the album I know of that uses the word "paradise", although the songs are relevant to that (and uses "heaven" a lot). Maybe a better title would have been "Fucked up holiday" or "Soft Ressurection" [the latter would have seemed a wry reference to the Born-to-Die-negative-hype wave, but she probably would have been ex-communicated by the Vatican, and therefore, decided not to go that way].

[Embach 47,091]

8 hours ago, TropicoHeart said:

It was also sold as a stand alone album aswell. I feel like you guys don’t really understand the difference between LPs and EPs. These are terms used back in the day for the total playtime of a vinyl.

An EP would use a smaller vinyl so it could only fit a few songs, like 4-5. An LP could fit more bc it was bigger. 

 

They’re both different forms of albums. An album or a record is a work of art, so why would you discredit Paradise as Lana’s work of art by saying it’s anything less than BTD or any other album?

And technically Paradise as a stand alone already counts as an LP bc it exceeds the typical playtime and total tracks of an EP. 

While I do agree that Paradise was sold as LPs but in general, how being an EP is a discredit to a work of art?  

[Charlottexseax 8,094]

What was even the reasoning behind merging it with BTD if any of yall know? 

[Alexander Wildenstein 9]

34 minutes ago, Charlottexseax said:

What was even the reasoning behind merging it with BTD if any of yall know? 

Paradise sessions started as sessions for second album then she merged it with BTD outtakes (after BTD she planned to release an addition with outtakes from it), and then she throw away BTD outtakes (most of them since I suspect Ride is a 2010-2011 song) and it became like EP, it’s all we know

Why it ended up being an extended thing to BTD we don’t know

[J03 568]

2 hours ago, Embach said:

While I do agree that Paradise was sold as LPs but in general, how being an EP is a discredit to a work of art?  

I think they mean to say body of work - they’re quite correct though in that this isn’t classed as an EP by definition due to its to run time and therefore, conventionally it’s an album. The label may not have treated it as such, it may never have done the things it’s done if it hadn’t been tacked on.