Musical Politics

[ChelseaLeeArts 3,078]

Justice for all the beautiful voices we will never hear because they don’t come from money. Also fuck every corrupt music label that use people’s dreams just to make money out of them

[Make me your Dream Life 90,102]

Personally, luckily, never really listened to problematic artists, maybe Kanye cus there’s value/quality to his stuff and cus he was just that big but. 
 

As someone who likes to learn lessons, I think it’s good to at least be able to understand where someone might be coming from, from a musical perspective and see if that can be somehow used to better the movement or elevation of music. I think Spotify giving so little kinda offsets the whole supporting thing if it’s just once or twice. Unpopular opinion, but understand the wholeness of what’s being said either ya get it or not. 
 

Gracie abrams is being shoved down people’s throats, but it feels like she’s just getting a lot of support from Taylor swift fans and I personally don’t see what she’s adding much of anything new unless you really look for it? Which let’s face it, that’s not the general norm nor should it be if she’s at that level of bought fame. 
 

I actually kinda like Taylor Swift from a celebrity perspective. I think she can easily still write as if she’s in high school or that perspective, but I think she’s actually grown as an artist at least w folklore/evermore. I don’t however like the fans that take it so far to that level of fanaticism or absorb her personality from past work. I think she mentioned to stop sending hate to her exes that extent. Idk there’s just a pipeline there that can make some of her fans personality/ outlook annoying to be around. Still haven’t listened to the poet album, don’t think I will just cus it seems more quantity than quality and the interest isn’t really there. I do think she can be overall a safe kind of celebrity. White, gorgeous, vibrant personality, so in some ways it kinda gives basic white girl perspective which is fine do you, and I think there’s a certain comfortable expectation of how things are with her releases. 
 

Smaller artists should really be more supported than bigger ones. I get competing w your peers at a massive scale, but if you’re in a position to help smaller artists get some traction, that just brings more to the party. I don’t think the industry’s set up in a way that can actually make much of a solid legacy artist since their setup’s mostly if not all about superficiality that they like to package as deep, and then get surprised when people move away from it. Like, huh? Wdym? U set it up this way without not really doing the quality work so ofc it’s gonna reflect that. 
 

People put too much value in looking like a star, but are seldom afraid of looking ugly. And it’s that whole, well I’m beautiful but either no one deserves me or I’m beautiful but I want them so bad I can’t believe it why? As if that’s the only important thing, and then it’s ironic cus sure the look/outside is there, but you’re looking for spirit/ a soul when you haven’t even fostered one for your own self first yet. There are other working parallels. It’s not mathing. It’s so corny to me. 
 

The less of a legacy an artist can foster, the more the industry wins. Since all they do is sap the fame and siphon the profit, and get to shush the artists into obscurity. So, that setup needs to be fixed majorly or everyone should just move away from that and let their system become a thing of the past by shifting away from all that. 

[Make me your Dream Life 90,102]

Also. Lana was right about sociopathy/psychopathy and narcissism that comes out from the hollow focusing of the external. 
 

There’s a spirit of that in the music industry and touches of it in artists music etc. Don’t get caught up idolizing that so much lest you end up becoming/ exhibiting those traits. Having integrity is still good. How you make others feel is still very much important. Do the boring thing, don’t be ashamed of your and of hard work even if it seems boring. Self respect still counts and is wise. 
People like that are empty and it’s all dependent on how great you make them feel. Don’t fall for it, they’re just covering up an elaborate nothingness and taking from you just to feel something fleeting. 

[Dark Angel 205,567]

3 hours ago, Ultra Violet said:

This is something I wish other fans would admit. How awful it is that they thought it was their job to dig up "receipts" of a wrong date, pretend that meant the *ssault could never have happened and then Melanie actually thanked them and put out a song about it

 

melanie martinez making a diss track against her accuser was just simply insane in the worst way

[baddisease 18,352]

I feel like while Kanye has some fucked up stuff, people forget he's severely mentally ill and has had doctors around him pump him full of drugs so they could get control of his finances and/or music. 

 

It didn't help his "friends" (see: Jay-Z) used his mental health and addiction induced vulnerability for their own ends only to abandon him once his usefulness as an object outweighed his problems. 

[shadesofblue 18,961]

Apart from certain artists who’ve done terrible things (ex Diddy) I wish people would be more open minded. Just because you don’t love an artist’s music, doesn’t automatically make their music bad. Everyone has different tastes and genres they love. The whole stan wars thing is so silly to me. This isn’t about anyone in particular, but people don’t understand basic respect anymore 

[baddisease 18,352]

Do people still believe Billie is an industry plant? I've heard that the reason she's not been as successful recently is bc she is. I don't believe it but still.

[longtimeman 9,160]

3 hours ago, baddisease said:

Do people still believe Billie is an industry plant? I've heard that the reason she's not been as successful recently is bc she is. I don't believe it but still.

Industry Plant is a term used by people who know nothing about the industry, but want to sound like they do.

[baddisease 18,352]

1 hour ago, longtimeman said:

Industry Plant is a term used by people who know nothing about the industry, but want to sound like they do.

 

Eh, I feel like that's too black and white. There ARE people who have been industry plants. (Some of them having horrible careers outside of one hit, others revealed as complete frauds. A historical example: Milli Vanilla)

[The Missing Shade of Blue 3,418]

Starting to get irritated by some of the Billie stans on TikTok. I'm seeing a lot of complaints about Beyonce and Kendrick, but it's crickets to other artists she lost against like Sabrina... 

[Charlottexseax 8,174]

10 hours ago, baddisease said:

Do people still believe Billie is an industry plant? I've heard that the reason she's not been as successful recently is bc she is. I don't believe it but still.

 

she's not an industry plant but she was quite literally whored out by her mother who desperately tried to get her kids to become famous any way she could. she was lucky that billie is somewhat talented/likeable and that finneas is actually a good songwriter.. 

 

also billie is one of the best selling artists of her generation? id say she's good. and it's normal that success declines after a few years especially when you keep churning out the same shit over and over. billie's debut was in like 2017-2018? that's almost 8 years of global fame. for comparison katy perry's peak lasted about 7 years, from 2007 to 2014. 

[Embach 48,986]

TikTok is saving the music industry and some artists' careers. I hate TikTok but I think that it's a great platform for young artists to start, like for example look how far Addison Rae has gotten, I mean her "breakthrough" or like hype started only recently but still TikTok helped her to become famous.

 

And I think that some TikTok users making edits with old and/or lesser known songs help to have a resurgence in some artists' careers when thr songs become viral.

 

I wouldn't say that TikTok helped Lana's career, definitely not, but I think ever since her songs became viral in 2022, she has been recognized a lot with the big (pop/mainstream) names of the industry, not categorized with alternative artists. Yeah, her fandom became more immature and toxic but that's with like every fandom right now lol.

[Demonmic03 12,119]

9 hours ago, Charlottexseax said:

 

she's not an industry plant but she was quite literally whored out by her mother who desperately tried to get her kids to become famous any way she could. she was lucky that billie is somewhat talented/likeable and that finneas is actually a good songwriter.. 

 

also billie is one of the best selling artists of her generation? id say she's good. and it's normal that success declines after a few years especially when you keep churning out the same shit over and over. billie's debut was in like 2017-2018? that's almost 8 years of global fame. for comparison katy perry's peak lasted about 7 years, from 2007 to 2014. 

Honestly, if Billie just branched out a bit she could definitely reach a new peak again.

Edited Wednesday at 08:06 PM by Demonmic03

[DeadSeaOfMercury 24,222]

On 2/5/2025 at 4:08 AM, The Missing Shade of Blue said:

Starting to get irritated by some of the Billie stans on TikTok. I'm seeing a lot of complaints about Beyonce and Kendrick, but it's crickets to other artists she lost against like Sabrina... 

The night the Grammys uploaded those clips like ALL of the comments were Billie stans.

A bunch were like “she’s crying, She deserves it/Wants it so bad”

This generation is fucked.

[Demonmic03 12,119]

14 hours ago, DeadSeaOfMercury said:

The night the Grammys uploaded those clips like ALL of the comments were Billie stans.

A bunch were like “she’s crying, She deserves it/Wants it so bad”

This generation is fucked.

Late but FRRR.

I've also heard that the Swifties are attacking Beyoncé (not surprised) but I am surprised that the Billie stans are attacking Beyoncé, just goes to to show that not all fandoms are the angels they're made out to be.

And honestly compared to billie's previous works, hit me hard and soft wasn't as good as WWAFAWDWG and HTE.

[DeadSeaOfMercury 24,222]

15 minutes ago, Demonmic03 said:

just goes to to show that not all fandoms are the angels they're made out to be.

Because they’re not Charli’s Angels…

[Demonmic03 12,119]

21 minutes ago, DeadSeaOfMercury said:

Because they’re not Charli’s Angels…

Well... they're not exactly angels either

But I'm not getting into that.

[details 17,695]

no shade to sabrina or charli, i love them and i think they're both incredibly talented ladies, but i think it's incredibly funny that both of their fans seem to turn a blind eye towards the fact that their current success is incredibly manufactured. there is not a single organic thing about the success of brat and short n sweet. people keep pushing this narrative that they're fighters and survivors that finally made it and no babes… this is what happens when you have a huge record label backing you up. all of this success is the result of a huge money machine behind the scenes. this very same thing happened with camila cabello and dua lipa back then and trust me, their aftermath will be the same for charli and sabrina. so, to all stans out there, enjoy it while it lasts, because their time is almost up. soon the industry will find other people to be their flavor of the month and then we'll really see how well they perform without training wheels 

[DeadSeaOfMercury 24,222]

6 minutes ago, details said:

so, to all stans out there, enjoy it while it lasts, because their time is almost up. soon the industry will find other people to be their flavor of the month and then we'll really see how well they perform without training wheels 

Sabrina, I really never knew of her before now & she’ll probably drop in popularity.

But Charli?

She’s not going anywhere.

Spoiler

Unless after the second album she leaves & starts a family or something…

Charli hasn’t needed “training wheels” for years.

[baddisease 18,352]

On 2/5/2025 at 2:57 PM, Embach said:

TikTok is saving the music industry and some artists' careers. I hate TikTok but I think that it's a great platform for young artists to start, like for example look how far Addison Rae has gotten, I mean her "breakthrough" or like hype started only recently but still TikTok helped her to become famous.

 

And I think that some TikTok users making edits with old and/or lesser known songs help to have a resurgence in some artists' careers when thr songs become viral.

 

I wouldn't say that TikTok helped Lana's career, definitely not, but I think ever since her songs became viral in 2022, she has been recognized a lot with the big (pop/mainstream) names of the industry, not categorized with alternative artists. Yeah, her fandom became more immature and toxic but that's with like every fandom right now lol.

 

Ngl I don't agree. TikTok CAN and sometimes does help musicians spread, but it feels like it's being used as an outlet by record labels to create fake buzz and acclaim for artists who couldn't achieve it on their own. 

 

See: Gayle, Olivia Rodrigo 

 

 

16 hours ago, DeadSeaOfMercury said:

The night the Grammys uploaded those clips like ALL of the comments were Billie stans.

A bunch were like “she’s crying, She deserves it/Wants it so bad”

This generation is fucked.

 

Billie did deserve it tho