COLACNT 5,178 Posted December 5, 2013 i feel like we need (yet) another thread to discuss our thoughts the film i'm gonna watch it again later and read the excerpts from howl and i dunno i think we should try to connect his writing with the particular scenes she decided to lay them over, etc 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rways 405 Posted December 5, 2013 its really really amazing! Probably her best video!!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Januli 119 Posted December 5, 2013 I have mixed feelings about Tropico. I waited it for so long and was so excited about it but when I saw it I was a little disappointed. I still liked, it was really good. It wasn't just as good as I hoped it to be. Some points it was a little bit boring imo and I didn't like Shaun Ross at all 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coney Island King 26,002 Posted December 5, 2013 It's cool, i liked it, especially after a couple more watches and letting it sink in. I can see how someone may not be into it, it's not for everyone and i doubt she expected it to be. I do worry about fans claiming it's "not a film" though, like as if somehow a short film can only be told in one way for it to be considered a film, ridiculous. It was hyped up for months so on initial viewing i can see how it may not meet "expectations", however for me the film was exactly as i was imagining so i cant say i was surprised by what it turned out to be. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COLACNT 5,178 Posted December 5, 2013 EDIT: can a mod delete the other one in the news section pls 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rdp 1,241 Posted December 5, 2013 Three amazing, well made music videos. One weirdly pointless short film. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilentity 13,343 Posted December 5, 2013 Tropico was pretty much exactly like I expected based on her comments about it and the teasers. Not sure yet whether that's a good thing or not. 11 Quote Stalking you has sorta become like my occupation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COLACNT 5,178 Posted December 5, 2013 we need to transcribe the entire thing but i so lazy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summersault 824 Posted December 5, 2013 Just a quick conspiracy.. In one of the trailer park scenes she places a bag of frozen veggies on her head. Could it mean that her guy hit her? I mean a lot of the scenes from Tropico are similar to the lyrics of Hundred Dollar Bill with Jimmys ultra violent swings, ya dig? 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailerParkDarling 5,691 Posted December 5, 2013 Not a fan of it.. I'm happy she got to complete her vision but I think- maybe with another director ?- it could have been done better, and not so damn LITERALLY. There was so much more artistry in Born To Die, for example and the Blue Jeans vid- for me. It was odd how after her fall from grace led her to hanging out with Latinos.. I could see that causing some outrage. Also, she recited some of those last stanzas in ISTBE- holiness of the human vessel and what not- the body is the soul.. I wonder if she really believes that? I get the hedonistic pov but I do wonder what she's trying to say. I really don't know what to think still.. lol.. I was pulling for Shaun Ross but I don't think he fit the video whatsoever. (That choreography was cringe worthy) Even Charlie would have been a better choice, and we all know Lana is fine w/ kissing siblings. 17 Quote *** People call me crazy but I'm in demand *** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philomene 928 Posted December 5, 2013 One thing that bugs me is the leaves/flowers they wear in the Garden. Adam and Eve are naked, it's only when they are chased that they decide to take leaves and cover themselves with it because they are no longer innocent and start to have desires therefore need protection. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLOODSHOT 3,029 Posted December 5, 2013 Definitely gonna rewatch it when I have the time to, but rn I really agree with what @@TrailerParkDarling said. She shouldn't have worked with Mandler; maybe Woodkid would've been a better choice. BJ and BTD were iconic videos in my opinion and perhaps Woodkid could've made the video more subtle? Like in Tropico the symbolism and the general storyline was v obvious. If it was Woodkid-directed then maybe there would've been more space to interpret what the video meant. But then of course Lana did say she worked really well with Mandler so ~idk~ 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaux 1,399 Posted December 5, 2013 One thing that bugs me is the leaves/flowers they wear in the Garden. Adam and Eve are naked, it's only when they are chased that they decide to take leaves and cover themselves with it because they are no longer innocent and start to have desires therefore need protection. but i mean its not like the rest of the story sticks to the Bible 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 219 Posted December 5, 2013 One thing that bugs me is the leaves/flowers they wear in the Garden. Adam and Eve are naked, it's only when they are chased that they decide to take leaves and cover themselves with it because they are no longer innocent and start to have desires therefore need protection. but sure you cant have shaun ross' manhood and lanas fanny hanging out for 5 mins tho? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philomene 928 Posted December 5, 2013 but sure you cant have shaun ross' manhood and lanas fanny hanging out for 5 mins tho? The plans can be cut or they can wear beige underwear. It doesn't change the fact that this choice of making them wear leaves and flowers shows their lack of knowledge and understanding of the Bible. This might seem to be a detail but it's actually quite important, before eating the fruit they didn't need clothes. Tropico lacked a lot of subtility. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go Go Dancer 628 Posted December 5, 2013 but sure you cant have shaun ross' manhood and lanas fanny hanging out for 5 mins tho? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
getdrunk 410 Posted December 5, 2013 The plans can be cut or they can wear beige underwear. It doesn't change the fact that this choice of making them wear leaves and flowers shows their lack of knowledge and understanding of the Bible. This might seem to be a detail but it's actually quite important, before eating the fruit they didn't need clothes. Tropico lacked a lot of subtility. There was no Marylin, Elvis, John in the Bible either, was there? Not everything has to be just like in the bible. 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philomene 928 Posted December 5, 2013 There was no Marylin, Elvis, John in the Bible either, was there? Not everything has to be just like in the bible. I know, but it's an important detail, as meaningful as the fruit being eaten. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver starlet 1,376 Posted December 5, 2013 i could honestly write so much about tropico but i have so many feelings about it that i cant even put it into words. but lana has never looked so hot damn i loved it. truly a work of art 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diegomaukm123 9 Posted December 5, 2013 So... Where I can see it? Any official link? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites