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  On 7/29/2013 at 3:48 PM, ednafrau said:

you guys, i've been thinking about something...do you really think NOTHING happened between lizzy and jimmy? i'm inclined to believe maybe it was a fling, or not even that, perhaps they just kissed once, but that maybe it was blown out of proportion in her mind because she fell in love and afterwards, when he blew her off, she just couldn't let go. i mean, she posted the obviously-about-jimmy "yayo" on his FB wall! she may have been lovelorn, but was she so out of touch to write songs about a fantasy and share them with him? i have my doubts. our kind source @ that spoke to his son's GF (or someone who knows gnecco) could just have the "official story"...maybe jimmy was in a relationship at the time so his little lizzy affair (or less than) was kept on the down low? how could we possibly know? i just find it hard to fathom that lana would expose herself so much to even use a JG lookalike for 2 of her videos - which jimmy would obviously see - just over an imaginary love! because this isn't like "so legit", which i'm pretty sure was hacked from her email or shared with very close friends because it wasn't meant to be public...this was everywhere, from her demos to her higher profile LDR songs  :rip:

 

Ive been thinking this for a while, if Jimmy was in an on/off relationship and was with Lizzy in between then maybe he would have kept it on the down low when he got back together with the other woman. I don't think she would have posted it on his fb if she didn't know him.

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  On 7/29/2013 at 4:22 PM, PrettyBaby said:

Maybe she IS in touch with the disconnect between her feelings and the reality, and this is just her way of saying, well, it meant something to her? ISTM Lana often uses the idea of love as her muse, so I'm not as surprised that she'd be willing to put that sort of self-revelation out there. It seems consistent enough with "making her life a work of art." (Even if family relationships, beefs with friends, etc. wouldn't be as much a part of that vision.)

 

could be! she has stated that she also writes about how she wishes things had been. re-writing/re-creating one's own history is an artist's prerrogative, and we all know she's done that on many levels :) 

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lizzy was using back then, the yayo could've clouded her judgement


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So maybe she and Jimmy never had a relationship but he knew she liked him but he mainly wanted to support her music so that's why she facebooked him Yayo? Because obviously You're Gonna Love Me is partially about him, "Jim, I'mma dedicate this whole album to you/You told me to get my way, that's exactly what I'm gonna do" - he told her to do her own thing and maybe Yayo was the start of the AKA era, so she sent it to him because she wanted to show him that he had a positive effect on her career.

 

 

I still think Radio is about Jimmy though, when she talked about it she was also talking about people "coming out of the woodworks", so maybe what she meant with him coming back was that he changed his mind, which brings me to Gods & Monsters. She's obviously written a lot of songs about their imaginary relationship and now he's interested in her because life imitates art. It also fit with her stalking admiring him from afar, "a groupie incognito posing as a real singer" and "If I get a little prettier, can I be your baby?". She literally made herself prettier (lips and so on).

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  On 7/29/2013 at 3:48 PM, ednafrau said:

you guys, i've been thinking about something...do you really think NOTHING happened between lizzy and jimmy? i'm inclined to believe maybe it was a fling, or not even that, perhaps they just kissed once, but that maybe it was blown out of proportion in her mind because she fell in love and afterwards, when he blew her off, she just couldn't let go. i mean, she posted the obviously-about-jimmy "yayo" on his FB wall! she may have been lovelorn, but was she so out of touch to write songs about a fantasy and share them with him? i have my doubts. our kind source @ that spoke to his son's GF (or someone who knows gnecco) could just have the "official story"...maybe jimmy was in a relationship at the time so his little lizzy affair (or less than) was kept on the down low? how could we possibly know? i just find it hard to fathom that lana would expose herself so much to even use a JG lookalike for 2 of her videos - which jimmy would obviously see - just over an imaginary love! because this isn't like "so legit", which i'm pretty sure was hacked from her email or shared with very close friends because it wasn't meant to be public...this was everywhere, from her demos to her higher profile LDR songs  :rip:

 

this could potentially true, it does seem weird for her to use bradley but apparently he did notice lizzy and just didn't care for her. she went to so many of his gigs and stuff that he eventually noticed her, but she was just looked like young blonde fangirl and jimmy was in a serious relationship. I don't know, I just really feel like the whole thing was a fantasy of hers. we can never know 100% but I think speaking to someone who knows jimmy well is a pretty good way of knowing what happened. I'm not saying that your theory isn't true, because maybe something happened and now it's a big secret, but I honestly feel like nothing too significant happened between them  :kiss:

 

also apparently when asked about lana, jimmy didn't even know who she was so maybe he hasn't seen those videos :/ 

I just feel sorry for lana hahah 


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  On 7/30/2013 at 12:14 AM, milliegw said:

also apparently when asked about lana, jimmy didn't even know who she was so maybe he hasn't seen those videos :/ 

I just feel sorry for lana hahah 

 

I don't think that means much, tbh. Maybe at first he just didn't associate sultry, vampy, successful Lana with cute, struggling artist Lizzie? Or maybe he simply doesn't remember a girl he once had a one night stand with or something? Not an uncommon thing for a guy in a rock band, especially one that looks like Jimmy.

 

My point is, even if he isn't lying it doesn't necessarily mean they never met or had no contact whatsoever with eachother, imo. I kinda believe something happened between them (not even necessarily a fling, she could have just met him one night and thought they shared a 'special connection' or something like that), something that was completely meaningless to him but fuelled (or initiated?) her obsession.


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this is starting to remind me of that one criminal minds episode where a guy falls in love with a woman after she looks at him once and he keep stalking her for ages and sends her presents and stuff and she has to move and he's till convinced she's in love with him and he changes his appearance to what she seems to like and yeah...oh lizzy


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  On 7/30/2013 at 12:56 AM, elllipsis said:

I don't think that means much, tbh. Maybe at first he just didn't associate sultry, vampy, successful Lana with cute, struggling artist Lizzie? Or maybe he simply doesn't remember a girl he once had a one night stand with or something? Not an uncommon thing for a guy in a rock band, especially one that looks like Jimmy.

 

My point is, even if he isn't lying it doesn't necessarily mean they never met or had no contact whatsoever with eachother, imo. I kinda believe something happened between them (not even necessarily a fling, she could have just met him one night and thought they shared a 'special connection' or something like that), something that was completely meaningless to him but fuelled (or initiated?) her obsession.

 

yeah that's what I was trying to say, except you said it better haha! no I definitely think they came into contact, she went to so many of his shows and stuff it would have been hard not to! I just meant he hadn't heard of her as 'lana del rey' 


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  On 7/30/2013 at 1:03 AM, milliegw said:

yeah that's what I was trying to say, except you said it better haha! no I definitely think they came into contact, she went to so many of his shows and stuff it would have been hard not to! I just meant he hadn't heard of her as 'lana del rey' 

 

Just read what you'd written and tbh it's me who should learn2readingcomprehension. :facepalm: :eek:


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  On 7/29/2013 at 10:44 PM, fruitpunchlips said:

So maybe she and Jimmy never had a relationship but he knew she liked him but he mainly wanted to support her music so that's why she facebooked him Yayo? Because obviously You're Gonna Love Me is partially about him, "Jim, I'mma dedicate this whole album to you/You told me to get my way, that's exactly what I'm gonna do" - he told her to do her own thing and maybe Yayo was the start of the AKA era, so she sent it to him because she wanted to show him that he had a positive effect on her career.

 

 

I still think Radio is about Jimmy though, when she talked about it she was also talking about people "coming out of the woodworks", so maybe what she meant with him coming back was that he changed his mind, which brings me to Gods & Monsters. She's obviously written a lot of songs about their imaginary relationship and now he's interested in her because life imitates art. It also fit with her stalking admiring him from afar, "a groupie incognito posing as a real singer" and "If I get a little prettier, can I be your baby?". She literally made herself prettier (lips and so on).

This is my favourite. This has opened the heavens and shed lavender sunshine upon all theories of Jimmy tbh.

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Really long please forgive me! My Nice Big Jimmy/K Post, i Know it sounds weird but bear with me~

 

 

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Thankyou for reading aag i know its super long so if you read it/ agreed/ disagreed or whatever thankyou for bothering to read it, i dno how sitar does this im exhausted, its bed time for me ugh, anyways hope you like my theories and that it makes sense to you guys and im not to crazy, im not the best at english either so forgive me if its bad :P


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  On 7/30/2013 at 6:03 PM, HeartshapedChevrolet said:

Really long please forgive me! My Nice Big Jimmy/K Post, i Know it sounds weird but bear with me~

 

 

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Thankyou for reading aag i know its super long so if you read it/ agreed/ disagreed or whatever thankyou for bothering to read it, i dno how sitar does this im exhausted, its bed time for me ugh, anyways hope you like my theories and that it makes sense to you guys and im not to crazy, im not the best at english either so forgive me if its bad :P

 

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  On 7/30/2013 at 6:03 PM, HeartshapedChevrolet said:

Really long please forgive me! My Nice Big Jimmy/K Post, i Know it sounds weird but bear with me~

 

 

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Thankyou for reading aag i know its super long so if you read it/ agreed/ disagreed or whatever thankyou for bothering to read it, i dno how sitar does this im exhausted, its bed time for me ugh, anyways hope you like my theories and that it makes sense to you guys and im not to crazy, im not the best at english either so forgive me if its bad :P

most of it makes sense but i kind of doubt that many songs are about jimmy. we don't even have any proof they were actually together and i think mike was the one trying to control lizzy's career


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omg dont say that i love sitars posts, but yeah im so like looping out right now if i wrote anymore i think my mind would turn inside out, i found i coulda almost put every song to jimmy/k aah :s cant deal 2am brain dead blues hahah


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  On 7/30/2013 at 6:03 PM, HeartshapedChevrolet said:

Really long please forgive me! My Nice Big Jimmy/K Post, i Know it sounds weird but bear with me~

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Thankyou for reading aag i know its super long so if you read it/ agreed/ disagreed or whatever thankyou for bothering to read it, i dno how sitar does this im exhausted, its bed time for me ugh, anyways hope you like my theories and that it makes sense to you guys and im not to crazy, im not the best at english either so forgive me if its bad :P

 

Now I like what you said about her projecting her one true love on Jimmy and possibly others--certainly on Bradley. However, you lost me at Afraid and Tired of Singing the Blues because I think the storyline in those has privately been confirmed to involve Mike...

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  On 7/30/2013 at 6:03 PM, HeartshapedChevrolet said:

Really long please forgive me! My Nice Big Jimmy/K Post, i Know it sounds weird but bear with me~

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Thankyou for reading aag i know its super long so if you read it/ agreed/ disagreed or whatever thankyou for bothering to read it, i dno how sitar does this im exhausted, its bed time for me ugh, anyways hope you like my theories and that it makes sense to you guys and im not to crazy, im not the best at english either so forgive me if its bad :P

Not to mention in the ride monologue she says she was born to be da other woman, so like yeah. 

Great analysis!

 

They wouldn't have been seen together publicly if she was the other woman for obvious reasons. 

And like,  what usually happens in affairs is the whole girl or other person is like so obsessed with the idea of being the main chick/dude so the cheater is like 'one day babe, yes we will be together! yes! yes!' 

 

also the person who talked to one of Jimmy's relatives or whatever, i doubt he would speak openly about having affair so maybe they just didn't know. 

 

like i find it so hard for someone to be writing songs and proclaiming love for someone they don't know. I mean unless lana is really psycho...she did say she was crazy so you know.  :creepna:

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