Lana's Eli Roth Collaboration Surfaces; Marilyn Manson Denies Then Clarifies Involvement

[GangstaBoy 3,930]

you really think that of all the ways to depict rape, the “let’s get her looking stunning and sexy and glimmering in cute little panties” route is the best one?

 

She's wearing normal underwear and a 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre' t-shirt for God's sake

 

 

Sure, because when you get raped you absolutely have to look repulsive and ugly, it's a well known fact.

 

This.

[Blythe 112]

Sure, because when you get raped you absolutely have to look repulsive and ugly, it's a well known fact.

 

Hm. maybe if we weren’t living in a world where you’re more likely to get expelled for plagiarizing a paper than you are raping a girl in your dorm…. where rape is one of the hardest things to prove & rarely EVER persecuted…. where ideas about victims somehow being inherently guilty of something are not perpetuated...where rapists are not constantly being defended and excused…. yeah maybe if all that wasn’t going on, depicting rape in some eli roth styled trash wouldn’t be harmful. but in this day and age, do you really think it's good to be depicting rape as something sexy, with goofy slow mo shots of her hair whipping back like she's a model, nails digging into his arm (which could be a clip of any standard softcore porn), shit like that? its glamorization and hyper sexualization of a crime that is centered around control and degradation. a rape scene shouldn't be hot.

[PARADIXO 31,623]

I hope this doesn't go very viral. Too much scandals this year... anti-feminism, "I wish I was dead already", UV (song), lol.

[Wilde_child 490]

@, you are awesome and very strong!

[Thunder Revenant 20,695]

Funny how depicting something and glamourising it is considered the same by some persons. Does this mean "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" is also doing this?

I can understand that some things Lana does are controversial. her statement on feminism. The Ultraviolence lines.

But this video isn't glamourising anything at all, in contrast, the horror of the victim is the most convincing display of emotion Lana ever did in a video. It is not supposed to be fun and cool and it's not looking like this. It looks painful and terrible. She screams, she tries to fight back, she's crying. There is nothing sexy about it. So I don't get where the assumption of the glorification comes from. And the slowmow-parts .. they are ALL OVER THE VIDEO,also during the "No Reflection" musicvideo parts, so they were not intentionally designed for the rape scene.

And apart from this we don't even know the complete clip.

[Thunder Revenant 20,695]

aaand the triple post .. sry

[PARADIXO 31,623]

I'm sorry but I just think it was entirely inappropriate in it's context. It wasn't empathizing, it wasn't a film with a storyline, or a music video with a message, it wasn't abstract and arty. It was nothing but, and I gag as I quote, "random acts of violence". Enough said.

 

Jack's impact 

[Thunder Revenant 20,695]

whoops double post

[ilovetati 15,295]

I'm sure Lizorde will have something to say about this.

[lmdr 9,924]

I'm sure Lizorde will have something to say about this.

 

[Philomene 927]

Hm. maybe if we weren’t living in a world where you’re more likely to get expelled for plagiarizing a paper than you are raping a girl in your dorm…. where rape is one of the hardest things to prove & rarely EVER persecuted…. where ideas about victims somehow being inherently guilty of something are not perpetuated...where rapists are not constantly being defended and excused…. yeah maybe if all that wasn’t going on, depicting rape in some eli roth styled trash wouldn’t be harmful. but in this day and age, do you really think it's good to be depicting rape as something sexy, with goofy slow mo shots of her hair whipping back like she's a model, nails digging into his arm (which could be a clip of any standard softcore porn), shit like that? its glamorization and hyper sexualization of a crime that is centered around control and degradation. a rape scene shouldn't be hot.

 

You're the one who's perverted. There is nothing hot here, she is in pain, her face is a mess at the end. What do you expect,from a groomed attractive woman like Lana in underwear to look like? Just because it's about rape he has to make some shitty shots of the scene and not display effects of style?

[Wilde_child 490]

Ooh that was a compilation? I am not familiarised with Manson's work so didn't catch that.

God, someone leak the whole LDR segment!

[Thunder Revenant 20,695]

Ooh that was a compilation? I am not familiarised with Manson's work so didn't catch that.

God, someone leak the whole LDR segment!

Yep, some parts were taken from the "No Reflection" video by Manson and the one with the blurred woman in  a uniform is also very Manson-esque, not sure if it's from Mobscene or something, but definitly could be from a video by him.

[Divisive Princess 3,489]

[Paradise Man 29]

This may be something to endorse rape fantasies some women have, and struggle with it?

Thinking about something doesn't mean wishing that to happen, it's been established in the course of evolution, as I am informed. And we all should know, it's superstitious thing to claim, women summon to be raped. Only unclear is, if women go almost nude around horny men, is it their fault.

It may trigger, though, as some say, reactions, of those who were victimized, and get to dislike Lana, hope not. I doubt Lana is in some holy or unholy music war.

Video is way too horrific, not sure what value for her art that might have.

As for Manson, he's like ultimate abomination of all diabolical music.

I wouldn't find it pleasant to see him with Lana in same shot.

[plush 655]

I'm so excited for this, this is how I saw ULTRAVIOLENCE in my head, even though it's not Uv related.

Her facial expressions are on point! So realistic and not overly dramatic or too much.

This is going to be awesome.

 

"The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo"

Legit favorite movie of all time     

[plush 655]

btw, when was this shot? It doesn't look like 2012 at all

[sweetie 6,615]

I'm not gonna lie. Watching that did make me want to get raped, as long as I look cute like Lana. Good job to Eli for providing such a different perspective on this issue 

[ilovetati 15,295]

I'm not gonna lie. Watching that did make me want to get raped, as long as I look cute like Lana. Good job to Eli for providing such a different perspective on this issue

[GangstaBoy 3,930]

btw, when was this shot? It doesn't look like 2012 at all

 

The reel was uploaded in 2013, can't remember the month