Barrie-James O'Neill Says Lana Broke Up With Him Via Interview

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lol I didn't actually write that. I copied and pasted it from the first link that came up when I googled "Lana illuminati" lol

They are interesting though. It's like reading a scifi novel. How do people come up with these things??

Drugs and an over-active imagination

 

Jk I'm not sure ethier. I guess some people get real jealous of celebs and/or have way too much time on their hands...

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im inclined to believe that lana did probably just drift away and stop speaking to him.. based on her past behaviour. but hey, she a grown ass woman

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if lana broke up with me i wouldnt know what to do with life anymore tbh

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time for barrie to write his '21' x

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INTERESTING ARTICLE THAT MAY SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE LANA-BARRIE TRAGIC BREAK UP

 

http://www.the-open-mind.com/the-toxic-attraction-between-an-empath-and-a-narcissist/

 

I'm convinced that Lana is an empath and she's often drawn to narcissistic personalities and ends up getting hurt always.

 

 

 

THE TOXIC ATTRACTION BETWEEN AN EMPATH AND A NARCISSIST
The Open Mind | November 24, 2015 |
By Alex Miles
I am an empath. I discovered I was an empath after I got involved in a very deep and highly destructive relationship with a narcissist.
I am writing this article from the perspective of an empath, however, would love to read the view from the opposite side if there are any narcissists that would like to offer their perception on this.
Through writing about the empath personality type I have connected with many other people who class themselves as an empath and time and again I have heard people tell me how they have also attracted relationships with narcissists. There is a link. So, I decided to explore it further.
For a detailed explanation of both the narcissist and empathy personality types, please click here and here.
This is my theory…
From my own experience and studies on the narcissist personality type, there is always one core trait: A narcissist is wounded.
Something, somewhere along the line, usually stemming from childhood causes a person to feel worthless and unvalued and, due to this, they will constantly and very desperately seek validation.
Here comes the empath, the healer. An empath has the ability to sense and absorb other people’s pain and often takes it on as though it were their own. If an empath is not consciously aware of boundaries and does not understand how to protect themselves, they will very easily and very quickly bond with the narcissist in order to try to fix and repair any damage and attempt to eradicate all their pain.
What the empath fails to realise is that the narcissist is a taker. An energy sucker, a vampire so to speak. They will draw the life and soul out of anyone they come into contact with, given the chance. This is so that they can build up their own reserves and, in doing so, they can use the imbalance to their advantage.
This dynamic will confuse and debilitate an empath, as if they do not have a full understanding of their own or other people’s capabilities, they will fail to see that not everyone is like them. An empath will always put themselves into other people’s shoes and experience the feelings, thoughts and emotions of others, while forgetting that other people may have an agenda very different to their own and that not everyone is sincere.
The narcissist’s agenda is one of manipulation, it is imperative they are in a position whereby they can rise above others and be in control. The empath’s agenda is to love, heal and care. There is no balance and it is extremely unlikely there ever will be one. The more love and care an empath offers, the more powerful and in control a narcissist will become.
The more powerful the narcissist becomes, the more likely the empath will retreat into a victim status. Then, there is a very big change—the empath will take on narcissistic traits as they too become wounded and are constantly triggered by the damage being in the company with a narcissist creates. Before long, an extremely vicious circle has begun to swirl.
When a narcissist sees that an empath is wounded they will play on this and the main intention will be to keep the empath down. The lower down an empath becomes, the higher a narcissist will feel. An empath will begin to frantically seek love, validation, confirmation and acceptance from a narcissist and each cry for help as such will affirm to the narcissist what they are desperate to feel inside—worthy. A bitter battle can ensue.
As an empath focuses solely on their pain, trauma and the destruction of their lives, they become self-obsessed and fail to see where the damage is coming from. Instead of looking outwards and seeing what is causing it, the empath will turn everything inward and blame themselves.
An empath at this stage must realise the situation they are in and wake up to it, as anyone who is deeply in pain and has been hurt can then become a narcissist themselves as they turn their focus onto their own pain and look for others to make them feel okay again.
Any attempt to communicate authentically with the narcissist will be futile as they will certainly not be looking to soothe and heal anyone else. Not only this, they are extremely charismatic and manipulative and have a powerful way of turning everything away from themselves and onto others. A narcissist will blame their own pain on an empath, plus they will also make sure the empath feels responsible for the pain they too are suffering.
An empath will know that they are in a destructive relationship by this stage and will feel so insecure, unloved and unworthy and it can be easy to blame all of their destruction onto the narcissist.
However, an empath should not be looking to blame anyone else. An empath has a choice, to remain the victim, a pawn in the narcissists game or to garner all strength they can muster and find a way out.
Emotionally exhausted, lost, depleted and debilitated an empath will struggle to understand what has happened to the once loving, attentive and charismatic person they were attracted to.
However we allow ourselves to be treated is a result of our own choices. If an empath chooses to stay in a relationship with a narcissist and refuses to take responsibility for the dynamic, they are choosing at some level what they believe they are worth on the inside. An empath cannot let their self-worth be determined by a narcissist. It is imperative they trust and believe in themselves enough to recognise that they are not deserving of the words and actions the narcissist delivers and to look for an escape.
In an empath’s eyes, all they searched and looked for was someone to take care of and love and to ultimately fix.” That is where the trouble began and that is the most profound part of this that an empath must realise.
We are not here to fix anyone. We cannot fix anyone. Everyone is responsible for and capable of fixing themselves, but only if they so choose to.
The more an empath can learn about the personality of a narcissist the sooner they will spot one and the less chance they have of developing a relationship with one. If a relationship is already underway, it is never too late to seek help, seek understanding and knowledge and to dig deep into one’s soul and recognise our own strengths and capabilities and do everything we can to build the courage and confidence to see it for what it is and walk away—for good.
The chance of a narcissist changing is highly unlikely, so we shouldn’t stick around waiting for it to happen. If a narcissist wants to change, then great, but it should never happen at the expense of anyone else. They are not consciously aware of their behaviour and the damage it causes and in their game they will sacrifice anyone and anything for their own gain—regardless of what pretty lies and sweet nothings they try to whisper.
An empath is authentic and is desperate to live true to their soul’s purpose and will very likely find the whole relationship a huge lesson, a dodged bullet and painfully awakening.
A narcissist will struggle to have any connection to their authentic self and will likely walk away from the relationship very easily once they realise they have lost their ability to control the empath. The game is no longer pleasurable if they are not having their ego constantly stroked, so they will seek out their next victim.
The ability for these two types to bond is quite simply impossible. The narcissist’s heart is closed, an empath’s is open—it is nothing short of a recipe for a huge disaster, and not a beautiful one.

 

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Also have yall noticed the timing of Barrie's announcement about his break up with Lana, right when the news about her and Francesco's break up happened. By doing this he's hurting her when she's already wounded from her break up with Frankie. You know he could have just announced the "details" about his break up with Lana last year as well, why did he have to bring it up now?!? He thinks that Lana must be emotionally fragile now and will go running back to him but I know Lana won't ever reunite with a person like him. Now I can understand how her whole album Ultraviolence was sort of a warning to herself to keep her from ever returning to Barrie...God please send a nice man for Lana once...She deserves a good sweet man!!! Everybody pray for Lana please!! She needs our prayers now more than ever. Stay strong Angel. We all have your back <3

 

//When a narcissist sees that an empath is wounded they will play on this and the main intention will be to keep the empath down. The lower down an empath becomes, the higher a narcissist will feel. //

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i love barrie it's sad all this... 

but i think that is good for both!

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nvm 

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Interesting read. Thanks for posting 

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angel-headed hipster-    post 45 and 46 is spot-on.

 

Thanks for posting. Had never heard it said in those 2 terms.

 

From everything that is known, she is a very good hearted person, and good hearted people are always taken advantage of.

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angel-headed hipster-    post 45 and 46 is spot-on.

 

Thanks for posting. Had never heard it said in those 2 terms.

 

From everything that is known, she is a very good hearted person, and good hearted people are always taken advantage of.

 

well we don't know that, do we? how do we not know that Lana may be the narcissicist and Barrie the emph? no body here knows lizzy or barrie..LOL. but i agree, good hearted people are, and they deserve the best.

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i think Barrie is a very good hearted person

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let's escape lizzy- while it doesn't have to be, it seems obvious to me, Lana is the good hearted person bringing in a wounded puppy or kitten.

I do find it interesting that both of the last two followed her thousands of miles. (has anyone seen that new tv show Crazy ex-?)(except in reverse)

 

as you say we have no idea really.

 

That picture posted last Saturday she and James looked happy, didn't they? Can one imagine if those two were a couple and both brought out the best in each other, would be quite interesting.

Have said they both seem to be in the exact same time and world, a time and world most others are not. And they are in a way equals.

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graham, i do not agree. lol.. it is very not obvious to us outsiders ..

 

remember believe none of what you hear and half of what you see..

pictures with anyone lol.. ok,, i can take a smiling picture with you too..   have a good morning..

 

but i have to add- no way are they eqauls, Lanz is way better..

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I believe there are users/takers and hearts/givers. I have seen nothing to indicate she is a user or a taker in any way, shape or form from anything in her public life the last 9 or 10 years since I first heard of her way back. So I believe she is the giver, the heart.

 

I'm a romantic in a cynical world.

 

End of the day, it is really none of my business and in the entertainment biz it is very hard for anyone to have a private life, be it one in the biz, one totally outside, two stars, one star/one less of a star, but she did have two men follow her 1000s of miles to be with her, whether she wanted that or not. Seems like they were becoming her, not the other way around.

Put in the mix of science/religion which is in direct conflict right there...

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I'm a romantic in a cynical world.

 

yes me too. but often i am misunderstood as very cynical..

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Um you people should know by now not to believe everything that comes out of another persons mouth. Just saying.

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Happy Thanksgiving everyone

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Happy Thanksgiving everyone

 

Happy Thanksgiving Shadesofkool822

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