Lust For Life - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll

[salvatore 21,769]

im here for lana stealing our coins

 

literally and figuratively 

[Veinsineon 76,897]

im here for lana stealing our coins

 

literally and figuratively 

 

I'm not. I want my signed CD 

[salvatore 21,769]

I'm not. I want my signed CD 

and ms del rey wants ur coins

[Veinsineon 76,897]

and ms del rey wants ur coins

 

the lazy bitch has already had them 4 times this damn era 

[salvatore 21,769]

the lazy bitch has already had them 4 times this damn era 

the gal wants MORE   same w me gal ive drained several times for her this year

[American Bottom 16,229]

I just want the racer jacket

[Beautiful Loser 48,932]

I just want the racer jacket

I want the patches.

[American Bottom 16,229]

I want the patches.

Honestly that would be even better. And cheaper

[kitschesque 9,882]

I think what makes political Lana awkward is the fact that she was always behind this glass, behind this fuzzy filter that separated her from us & she never spoke too much on social media and was generally in her own, tiny bubble and seeing the world through her own lana-esque lens and that helped her aesthetic and imagery so much as well as persona in general

 

So when she finally stepped out of it I feel like we're shocked to see what she's really like (obviously we won't ever meet her like she is on daily basis but you know what I mean)

 

I was excited for the woke-hippie aesthetic but some of these lyrics DO sound cheesy and cliche although I can see her trying to expand herself and grow as an artist so I'm still curious what she'd bring in the future but my overall point is she literally took some magic out of it and that's why all this feels weird

[Thunder Revenant 20,950]

I think what makes political Lana awkward is the fact that she was always behind this glass, behind this fuzzy filter that separated her from us & she never spoke too much on social media and was generally in her own, tiny bubble and seeing the world through her own lana-esque lens and that helped her aesthetic and imagery so much as well as persona in general

 

So when she finally stepped out of it I feel like we're shocked to see what she's really like (obviously we won't ever meet her like she is on daily basis but you know what I mean)

 

I was excited for the woke-hippie aesthetic but some of these lyrics DO sound cheesy and cliche although I can see her trying to expand herself and grow as an artist so I'm still curious what she'd bring in the future but my overall point is she literally took some magic out of it and that's why all this feels weird

The problematic thing is more that her "awareness" is as naive as the one of a 16y o tumblerina. Probably even less, cause those are often over-aware SJW idiots.

She promoted those tracks as meaningful and shit, but listening to GBA or WTWWAW does not really feel different than any Lona sobg. Same lyricism etc.

The only meaningful one is Change, although that's more about herself than about society

Edited December 7, 2017 by Electric Body

[latothemoon 11,846]

Børns new album Blue Madonna out January 12, Lana might be on it since they were in the studio together. https://twitter.com/bornsmusic/status/938916344095019008

[LaMartine 1,201]

Børns new album Blue Madonna out January 12, Lana might be on it since they were in the studio together. https://twitter.com/bornsmusic/status/938916344095019008

well he already has his gucci on  

[Cloudbusting 5,382]

On one hand, some of her political lyrics sound like Disney lyrics "If we hold on to hope, we'll have a happy ending". 

 

On the other hand, at least those songs help to change her classic themes about sad love and drugs, which imo are her best themes (see Cherry and Heroin), but some people were growing tired of hearing the same kind of stories on her songs. Same with Love, Lust For Life and the album's cover (maybe she won't be portrayed as exclusively sad by the GP. A boy can dream)

[LaMartine 1,201]

honestly when i knew she was going to dabble on political themes i expected her to be awkward about it. And I don't think she's addressing this issues as an ultra aware SJW, on the contrary I think she's just discovering these themes and no matter how annoying some of these tumblr teens come off she doesn't have the same thirst of awareness and neither does she spend that much time on the internet looking these things up. Even with her background in philosophy, she probably kept with the metaphysics and maybe theology, and has only a very superficial knowledge of feminist theories, the social contract(s) and politics. I remember I was kinda pissed at the journalist who asked her if she was a feminist, because let's be real the way this question is handled suggests it's just a trick to use with female celebrities for click-baits. It's a damn if I do and damn if I don't situation.    

 

I believe that with the big changes that happened in 2016 and followed 2017, the outside world was chaotic enough to interfere with her bubble, and now lana del rey can't be Lana Del Rey with these threats to her status quo. So finally it would have been more awkward not to address these issues. I think she thought it would be better to talk about these changes and what she could do about them.  

[salvatore 21,769]

On one hand, some of her political lyrics sound like Disney lyrics "If we hold on to hope, we'll have a happy ending". 

 

On the other hand, at least those songs help to change her classic themes about sad love and drugs, which imo are her best themes (see Cherry and Heroin), but some people were growing tired of hearing the same kind of stories on her songs. Same with Love, Lust For Life and the album's cover (maybe she won't be portrayed as exclusively sad by the GP. A boy can dream)

ive seen people call Love sad and nothing new from her 'oh boy another slow sad lana song about her being in love, this time without drugs and heartbreak such improvemtn'

[HoneymoonSwan 3,106]

My windbreaker just shipped! 

[Off To The Races 2010 demo pls 19,336]

BPBP is such a masterpiece, Lana & Stevie voices connect so fucking good, it gave me chills and makes me feel good.

 

 

One of my favs

[highbybeaches 519]

Lust for Lifes sales are dropping, she needs to do some form of promo to bring them back up

[Terrence Loves Me 72,703]

I love reading through everyones opinions on Lana and the album. Ya'll are so well spoken and intelligent, makes me remember why i joined this forum. But yeah i agree with some of you, i think it's nice that Lana has decided to join the real world and speak up about political topics, it's lovely and she's setting a good example towards her younger listeners too. However, i don't think it entirely works for her musically.

 

Like someone said earlier, Change was her best "woke" track because unlike the other political tracks, it wasn't about society, it was just about her. In the past her art and aesthetics have always heavily relied on herself. HER life, HER interests and HER problems. And i think that's when she truly shines. Because when an artist sings about personal topics, they make it their mission to be great because it's coming from the heart. And it's beneficial to her career, to her fans and to the music. So i would much prefer if she'd stick to her fantasy stories and such, but i'm also fine with whichever path she takes next. 

[Veinsineon 76,897]

Lust for Lifes sales are dropping, she needs to do some form of promo to bring them back up

 

like a video 

 

   or an ep