Future Jazz

1. Ocean Boulevard
2. Kintsugi
3. A&W
4. Grandfather
5. Taco Truck
6. Candy Necklace
7. The Grants
8. Let The Light In
9. Peppers
10. Paris, Texas
11. Fingertips
12. Fishtail
13. Sweet
14. Judah Smith Interlude
15. Jon Batiste Interlude
16. Margaret

peppers verses have a similar melody to last girl on earth

I love to see margaret being at where she belongs

1. A&W
2. Tunnel under Ocean Blvd
3. Peppers
4. The Grants
5. Fingertips
6. Candy Necklace
7. Grandfather
8. Taco Truck x VB
9. Let The Light In
10. Kintsugi
11. Fishtail
12. Paris, Texas
13. Sweet
14. Judas Interlude
15. Jon Interlude
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16. Margabomb
 
The way every track including interludes grew since release except for Margaret. She just keeps falling into an abyss. Reminds me of LFL folk songs, hate them.

first of all, why would people have to “do something for a community”? people are here to talk about Lana, not everyone is supposed to help the community in any way, so i can’t see how people can be reproached with not doing that. Honeymoun can be considered as helping the community in the fact that he sometimes gives information, and has definitely leaked stuff in the past, but he has also done stuff that’s not been helping, like when he flat-out lied to us, made statements that were based on speculation sound like they weren’t, or implied he was going to leak good stuff when he wasn’t. people have the right to criticize this, especially when it hasn’t been compensated by actual leaks for maybe 2 years. i don’t see any other insider doing that, and i don’t see constant hate towards honeymoun either. no one talks about them every day, and if people are talking about them today, it’s because they wrote that tweet which is likely to be speculative once again.
 
and even if i agreed with you, i still wouldn’t think “all you are known for is crying over things not leaking in lengthy essays no one reads” is an appropriate way to talk to people.

um why do some of you guys think it’s okay to come for someone like that saying they contribute nothing or telling them to just sit and eat their food just because they said honeymouns has lied/predicted things wouldn’t leak when they did? especially when that person is right, honeymouns hasn’t leaked stuff in ages but when he did, he lied several times, on the top of my mind when he said he didn’t have ufb when he got backlash for posting that video for april’s fools two years ago. then there’s the christmas 2021 thing, etc. generally speaking i can’t see how disagreeing with someone could directly lead to implying they’re useless or whatever and i think this forum has been tolerating rudeness/disrespect a bit too much lol

first of all, why would people have to “do something for a community”? people are here to talk about Lana, not everyone is supposed to help the community in any way, so i can’t see how people can be reproached with not doing that. Honeymoun can be considered as helping the community in the fact that he sometimes gives information, and has definitely leaked stuff in the past, but he has also done stuff that’s not been helping, like when he flat-out lied to us, made statements that were based on speculation sound like they weren’t, or implied he was going to leak good stuff when he wasn’t. people have the right to criticize this, especially when it hasn’t been compensated by actual leaks for maybe 2 years. i don’t see any other insider doing that, and i don’t see constant hate towards honeymoun either. no one talks about them every day, and if people are talking about them today, it’s because they wrote that tweet which is likely to be speculative once again.
 
and even if i agreed with you, i still wouldn’t think “all you are known for is crying over things not leaking in lengthy essays no one reads” is an appropriate way to talk to people.

first of all, why would people have to “do something for a community”? people are here to talk about Lana, not everyone is supposed to help the community in any way, so i can’t see how people can be reproached with not doing that. Honeymoun can be considered as helping the community in the fact that he sometimes gives information, and has definitely leaked stuff in the past, but he has also done stuff that’s not been helping, like when he flat-out lied to us, made statements that were based on speculation sound like they weren’t, or implied he was going to leak good stuff when he wasn’t. people have the right to criticize this, especially when it hasn’t been compensated by actual leaks for maybe 2 years. i don’t see any other insider doing that, and i don’t see constant hate towards honeymoun either. no one talks about them every day, and if people are talking about them today, it’s because they wrote that tweet which is likely to be speculative once again.
 
and even if i agreed with you, i still wouldn’t think “all you are known for is crying over things not leaking in lengthy essays no one reads” is an appropriate way to talk to people.

first of all, why would people have to “do something for a community”? people are here to talk about Lana, not everyone is supposed to help the community in any way, so i can’t see how people can be reproached with not doing that. Honeymoun can be considered as helping the community in the fact that he sometimes gives information, and has definitely leaked stuff in the past, but he has also done stuff that’s not been helping, like when he flat-out lied to us, made statements that were based on speculation sound like they weren’t, or implied he was going to leak good stuff when he wasn’t. people have the right to criticize this, especially when it hasn’t been compensated by actual leaks for maybe 2 years. i don’t see any other insider doing that, and i don’t see constant hate towards honeymoun either. no one talks about them every day, and if people are talking about them today, it’s because they wrote that tweet which is likely to be speculative once again.
 
and even if i agreed with you, i still wouldn’t think “all you are known for is crying over things not leaking in lengthy essays no one reads” is an appropriate way to talk to people.

first of all, why would people have to “do something for a community”? people are here to talk about Lana, not everyone is supposed to help the community in any way, so i can’t see how people can be reproached with not doing that. Honeymoun can be considered as helping the community in the fact that he sometimes gives information, and has definitely leaked stuff in the past, but he has also done stuff that’s not been helping, like when he flat-out lied to us, made statements that were based on speculation sound like they weren’t, or implied he was going to leak good stuff when he wasn’t. people have the right to criticize this, especially when it hasn’t been compensated by actual leaks for maybe 2 years. i don’t see any other insider doing that, and i don’t see constant hate towards honeymoun either. no one talks about them every day, and if people are talking about them today, it’s because they wrote that tweet which is likely to be speculative once again.
 
and even if i agreed with you, i still wouldn’t think “all you are known for is crying over things not leaking in lengthy essays no one reads” is an appropriate way to talk to people.

first of all, why would people have to “do something for a community”? people are here to talk about Lana, not everyone is supposed to help the community in any way, so i can’t see how people can be reproached with not doing that. Honeymoun can be considered as helping the community in the fact that he sometimes gives information, and has definitely leaked stuff in the past, but he has also done stuff that’s not been helping, like when he flat-out lied to us, made statements that were based on speculation sound like they weren’t, or implied he was going to leak good stuff when he wasn’t. people have the right to criticize this, especially when it hasn’t been compensated by actual leaks for maybe 2 years. i don’t see any other insider doing that, and i don’t see constant hate towards honeymoun either. no one talks about them every day, and if people are talking about them today, it’s because they wrote that tweet which is likely to be speculative once again.
 
and even if i agreed with you, i still wouldn’t think “all you are known for is crying over things not leaking in lengthy essays no one reads” is an appropriate way to talk to people.

first of all, why would people have to “do something for a community”? people are here to talk about Lana, not everyone is supposed to help the community in any way, so i can’t see how people can be reproached with not doing that. Honeymoun can be considered as helping the community in the fact that he sometimes gives information, and has definitely leaked stuff in the past, but he has also done stuff that’s not been helping, like when he flat-out lied to us, made statements that were based on speculation sound like they weren’t, or implied he was going to leak good stuff when he wasn’t. people have the right to criticize this, especially when it hasn’t been compensated by actual leaks for maybe 2 years. i don’t see any other insider doing that, and i don’t see constant hate towards honeymoun either. no one talks about them every day, and if people are talking about them today, it’s because they wrote that tweet which is likely to be speculative once again.
 
and even if i agreed with you, i still wouldn’t think “all you are known for is crying over things not leaking in lengthy essays no one reads” is an appropriate way to talk to people.

um why do some of you guys think it’s okay to come for someone like that saying they contribute nothing or telling them to just sit and eat their food just because they said honeymouns has lied/predicted things wouldn’t leak when they did? especially when that person is right, honeymouns hasn’t leaked stuff in ages but when he did, he lied several times, on the top of my mind when he said he didn’t have ufb when he got backlash for posting that video for april’s fools two years ago. then there’s the christmas 2021 thing, etc. generally speaking i can’t see how disagreeing with someone could directly lead to implying they’re useless or whatever and i think this forum has been tolerating rudeness/disrespect a bit too much lol

um why do some of you guys think it’s okay to come for someone like that saying they contribute nothing or telling them to just sit and eat their food just because they said honeymouns has lied/predicted things wouldn’t leak when they did? especially when that person is right, honeymouns hasn’t leaked stuff in ages but when he did, he lied several times, on the top of my mind when he said he didn’t have ufb when he got backlash for posting that video for april’s fools two years ago. then there’s the christmas 2021 thing, etc. generally speaking i can’t see how disagreeing with someone could directly lead to implying they’re useless or whatever and i think this forum has been tolerating rudeness/disrespect a bit too much lol

um why do some of you guys think it’s okay to come for someone like that saying they contribute nothing or telling them to just sit and eat their food just because they said honeymouns has lied/predicted things wouldn’t leak when they did? especially when that person is right, honeymouns hasn’t leaked stuff in ages but when he did, he lied several times, on the top of my mind when he said he didn’t have ufb when he got backlash for posting that video for april’s fools two years ago. then there’s the christmas 2021 thing, etc. generally speaking i can’t see how disagreeing with someone could directly lead to implying they’re useless or whatever and i think this forum has been tolerating rudeness/disrespect a bit too much lol

Please thank u I haven’t even interacted with these people who are like coming at me it’s just weird😭😭😭 like ok sorry damnnnn

um why do some of you guys think it’s okay to come for someone like that saying they contribute nothing or telling them to just sit and eat their food just because they said honeymouns has lied/predicted things wouldn’t leak when they did? especially when that person is right, honeymouns hasn’t leaked stuff in ages but when he did, he lied several times, on the top of my mind when he said he didn’t have ufb when he got backlash for posting that video for april’s fools two years ago. then there’s the christmas 2021 thing, etc. generally speaking i can’t see how disagreeing with someone could directly lead to implying they’re useless or whatever and i think this forum has been tolerating rudeness/disrespect a bit too much lol

um why do some of you guys think it’s okay to come for someone like that saying they contribute nothing or telling them to just sit and eat their food just because they said honeymouns has lied/predicted things wouldn’t leak when they did? especially when that person is right, honeymouns hasn’t leaked stuff in ages but when he did, he lied several times, on the top of my mind when he said he didn’t have ufb when he got backlash for posting that video for april’s fools two years ago. then there’s the christmas 2021 thing, etc. generally speaking i can’t see how disagreeing with someone could directly lead to implying they’re useless or whatever and i think this forum has been tolerating rudeness/disrespect a bit too much lol

um why do some of you guys think it’s okay to come for someone like that saying they contribute nothing or telling them to just sit and eat their food just because they said honeymouns has lied/predicted things wouldn’t leak when they did? especially when that person is right, honeymouns hasn’t leaked stuff in ages but when he did, he lied several times, on the top of my mind when he said he didn’t have ufb when he got backlash for posting that video for april’s fools two years ago. then there’s the christmas 2021 thing, etc. generally speaking i can’t see how disagreeing with someone could directly lead to implying they’re useless or whatever and i think this forum has been tolerating rudeness/disrespect a bit too much lol

Y’all are weird I guess I read the tweet wrong and I thought he said it was never leaking… and I didn’t believe it because lots of songs they said will never leak,  ended up leaking! Honeymouns isn’t gonna personally send you leaks for kissing his ass
 
and thats all I’m gonna say
#leakdarkcity

They have said a bunch of songs would never leak and then they did, it’s just silly lol… also I didn’t realize he was talking about a different version, I just thought he meant the song in general would never leak 

I see some of y’all still displaying copious amounts of tasteless copy-paste one liners about how Kintsugi and/or Fingertips are boring and should have stayed as poems - as if Lana’s writing hasn’t at least since 2017 been merging the two art forms consistently. Between this and the anti-piano brigade… it’s a tragedy. I see nothing Greek in it 

i personally hope she never collabs with billie or olivia  

Literally BOZ: "Patrick's available stems of the tracks were seemingly so incomplete he decided to create new production and structure for the songs making complete new versions that were unlike what Lana and Rick originally curated."
dozens of posts on the album process thread directly contradicting this 
BOZ "implying" and then later on simply stating as fact without any evidence other than his own admitted vibes that "Tropico" was a concept when Lana herself said she didn't have a concept for the music she was recording at the time until a month later is the contradiction.
 
No one's saying there's not UV outtakes. It's just that the majority of UV was done by Lana's standards when she announced it in December 2013. She simply rerecorded songs she had already written and made demos of in Nashville with Dan. Some of those likely didn't make the cut, but the implication that her and Dan made a bunch of songs (that he would have writing credits on) that were all different than what she was working on is demonstrably false.
 
yes you're right not everything BOZ says is correct...most of it isn't 
it's not that I disagree Lana could do anything at any given point. It's just that if evidence exists to the contrary or if the only evidence is "vibes" of what insider "thinks" "must have" happened, it's just fanficiton! And we should label it as such

This is a myth busting post. Unfortunately, many of these stemmed from one person in particular, hence the title. I fear the damage they've wreaked in the past 3 months starting with one post may ruin the legitimacy of Lanapedia posts forever but, oh well. Sidenote all of you need stop believing everything an "insider" writes /especially/ if it contradicts what you know Lana herself has said.
 
Myth: Your Girl/Fine China/Say Yes To Heaven demos leaked in 2016 were fake/unapproved by Lana or Rick/produced by Patrick Warren/etc.
Bust: Long version (here). TL/DR - from both a production standpoint and a songwriting standpoint this never made sense, and that fact is only reinforced with leaks from the other versions of the songs now coming out and being largely identical to what was released. Note: the arrangement is the same, most of the stems in each are the same and in the same place, the only changes are those of instrument choice and the stage the song was in (minor lyric changes etc.) Par for the course. Let Me Love You Like A Woman demo and final version drastically different from each other. Same for Lust for Life versions 1-10. All produced by Rick and Lana, none by Patrick Warren (who provided instrumentation, never production, writing, or arrangement). Longer version of this myth bust below!
 
 
Myth: “Melancholia” was an album title for UV.
Bust: This came to be established as fact due to Ultraviolence (the song)’s earliest form, a song called Melancholia, leaking. Lana herself stated: “I knew I wanted a record called Ultraviolence and that song in particular stood out to me, so eventually I reworked a song called Melancholia into Ultraviolence.” No evidence that Melancholia was ever an album title. Direct evidence that Lana wanted a record called UV so bad she was willing to rework the lyrics of an old song she liked to be a title track.
 
Myth: “Tropico” was an album concept.
Bust: This one never made any sense at all, sorry for your notebook pages. Despite the fact that no one knows anything about what Lana was writing on the page or how she organized it, we do have actual facts about Tropico. It was announced as a film as early as 2012 (before the notebook picture, which came in 2013). It was filmed in June of 2013. It was /always/ linked to songs from Paradise (announced as a film with the original Bel Air music video upload.) All the other claims about it were purely speculation (ie BlackOutZone likes attention and made it up.) Further, as late as June 2013 Lana wasn’t “interested in putting out another album”, even though she was writing music. Only in August did she say she was working on a new album, mentioning Black Beauty as being written for it, this album of course being Ultraviolence.
 
Myth: “Ultraviolence tracklist got changed after Dan Auerbach got involved.”
Bust: Dan merely rerecorded demos Lana had already made and was ready to release. Dan has no writing credits on any song from Ultraviolence except for Florida Kilos. Dan: “Her demos were so good, her songs were so strong that I wanted to get my musicians in who I love and get my sound that I get here with her songs and that’s it. I didn’t want to mess it up. She sang live with a seven-piece band. That’s the whole record – a seven-piece band with her singing live. It was crazy.” "After she played him some of the demos she was working on, he became a fan, lobbying to produce her.” Lana said she thought the record was done in December 2013, and announced it. Dan heard the album while they were at The Riviera in Queens (with Emile Haynie) and told her he thought she was almost where she wanted to be with the sound, but that his Nashville band could get her perfectly there.
 
See, BlackOutZone is the king of the “idk tho” He loves to present entirely speculative opinions
“so perhaps her original idea was to release the album in 2013 alongside the visuals”
“personally only treat JFK, I Don't Wanna Go, Starry Eyed as Paradise outtakes, but this all remains debatable.”
“it must have only been”
Which are then ran with by him and y’all as fact simply because recently he’s been able to leak tracklists (actual matters of fact).
Even during Blue Banisters he was walking the middle line by making claims that could be verified (but weren’t) and then retracting them (X song is gonna be on the album…jk she changed her mind).
 
Was BlackOutZone right on some tracklist related things and announcements of recent songs? Definitely, and I’m sure the label connection that traced him to be the source of all these leaks and told him to stop has cut off his access. Does BlackOutZone know literally anything about mixing, mastering, or the way songs got recorded or leaked in 2016, or what the hell Lana was up to in 2013? No, and it’s time for you all to stop pretending he does.