PrettyBaby

I think people confuse championing girl power with feminism. 

This is a good point. At its worst, "girl power" can take the form of misandry (something feminism in general sometimes is charged with unfairly). But at its best, "girl power" can be a shorthand/introduction to encouraging females to stand up for themselves, and importantly, for each other. When that is the focus, i.e. challenging arbitrarily restrictive norms, I can see a certain kind of shallow consistency in indulging "girls behaving 'badly'" while ignoring "boys behaving 'badly,'" if that makes sense.

I've been meaning to ask everyone here what you thought of certain aspects of the Breaking Up video. Overall I love it, but a couple of parts bothered me a little: girl posse vs. boy posse, and the one time she "slaps" the Ex (after gagging, binding and dragging him). I'm more bothered by the message others could make of it, than by concern for Charli's intent. I initially interpreted it as "This guy is a jerk, and this guy's friends are also jerks, and Charli and her friends are sick of it." No biggie... unless. Did it make anyone else feel uncomfortable on second thought, like maybe it can be seen as girl power attacking guys in general?

Page 400 guys!

am i the only one that when voting thinks 'oh yeah everyone's gonna vote for this so i should give it a low score or dont even put it there so i can make space for the songs i love that no one is gonna vote' ?? yeah messy thought... fuck i shouldnt have done that

Gives me Lykke Li vibes.

I want one :/

This week I finally managed to get digital copies of my favorite K-Tel compilation, Rock 80! I used to listen to this on cassette over and over...

It's a blast from the past of my childhood. The other 12 people on the internet who remember it, remember it fondly.

A few of these specific track versions were hard to find or never made available on CD or mp3 Bless the old-timers on YouTube who rip their vinyls

Rock 80

 1. Cars - Gary Numan

 2. Brass in Pocket - The Pretenders

 3. Driver's Seat - Sniff 'n' the Tears

 4. Cruel to Be Kind - Nick Lowe

 5. Is She Really Going Out with Him? - Joe Jackson

 6. Heartbreaker - Pat Benatar

 7. Call Me - Blondie

 8. Do You Remember Rock and Roll Radio - The Ramones

 9. My Sharona - The Knack

10. I Want You to Want Me (live) - Cheap Trick

11. Hold On - Ian Gomm

12. One Way Or Another - Blondie

13. We Live for Love (original LP mix) - Pat Benatar

14. Pop Muzik - M

#punkrawkpop #prepussypowerpussypower

I Can Fly

“I live in East L.A., and I speak Spanish,” she says. “The girls who work in the club in the video are my friends, people I knew before I became a little more well known. Like, I’ve always spoken Spanish in all my songs the past few years. So for me, personally, it’s not a far-out-there reference.” 

I mean, how dare she? I thought I was listening to Born to Die in English, and then she just goes and totally fucks with my mind like this? I had to go back and check all her songs and make sure they weren't in Spanish for realz. Is she like some kind of a pathological liar?

No. No, she is not. It's called a brain fart. We all do it. Some of the less verbally eloquent among us do it more often then others. We mean to say one thing, and our brain goes and retrieves a different but related word or phrase. Those of us who are more careful/pedantic consider whether we have said something misleading and whether we need to correct ourselves, but not everyone does. Apparently she has featured Spanish (or French :/ ) lyrics in a song here and there on all two of her albums the past few years. But on the spot, it didn't come out that specific. That, to someone who can relate, is the simplest explanation.

While the age thing may be an example of more deliberate falsehood (and as someone with less knowledge of Southern CA geography than Lana, I have no idea what to make of the East L.A. comment), to make exaggerated statements along the lines of "she lies all the time" strikes me as more than a bit hypocritical, especially when it crops up in a magazine article's liberally embellished styling. "...saying that some of your best friends are Latino..." ...Really?

This is minor but iTunes changed "Sucker" to "SUCKER"

SUPER ULTRA 2.0

Does anyone knows why Brian, Waylon and Zach are not in the band anymore? I'm so curious

 

Did they leave before or after Like a Stranger EP?

you're implying that "normalizing an turning it into entertainment" will completely remove the severity of what domestic violence truly is!!

sensible people (which is the majority of people) aren't going to forget about the trauma it does, or dismiss cases of domestic violence just because they hear/see it being appropriated by external outlets!!

Sensible people often look the other way. This is part of the problem.

I think both Eminem and Lana Del Rey's subject matter warrants scrutiny, but both deserve fair consideration of what they are trying to say before dismissing them as "glorifying violence." But it is possible for one to handle their subject matter well while the other doesn't.

The more I think about "Shady Cxvpher," the more I get the vibe that Eminem uses sexist/homophobic slurs that are motivated by class struggle, not gender/orientation issues. (For example, it's not so much that Eminem is pissed at any woman who won't sleep with him, as much as he's pissed at any woman who thinks she's too good to sleep with him.) That doesn't make it okay, of course. But it does explain why some fans see him as "not misogynistic." Of course, deliberate use of such slurs makes it more serious than a matter of simple "insensitivity."

 

I don't think Eminem's reference to LDR is a joke or there is very little in the way of humor in this rap. There may be a lot of wit and art to it, but the emotionality is all wrong for humor. Rob Grant may have nailed it by referring to the rap as an anger managment issue (or an exorcism of sorts).

 

BTW I got lyrics from youtube user: Muhammed Atas (a true hero of the Internet, imo), who left it as a comment, which will probably be buried very soon. 

 

lyrics : 

I just turned Slaughterhouse to a quintet

Began to trend-set, murdered the friend's pet

Made shit as ill as it can get went in depth

Like a fucking vignette and two bars skins wet

I'm already covered in sweat

And I wasn't even ready to come in yet

AHH, let me set this drink down

Beat up a gal, start beef with her pal

Probably be wild 'til I'm wrinkled and senile

And "Rap God" was a freestyle

Off the top of the dome piece while I was sleep on the couch

And I'm freestyling now

I need a towel, sweat leaks from my brow

It's burning my eyes, my cerebral is foul

Cause shit I'm thinking about should be illegal

I need my head banned like the guy who left Cleveland Ohio

And went to South Beach with his talents

Scream "fuck you" on the way out and wink with a smile

This whole game can eat a dick, I'm going back deep underground

But right now I'm back on that bullshit and you I'm singling out

Cause you're so fucking outdated you should mingle a while

What the fuck is this clusterfuck of busters

Bunch of Buster Douglas', motherfuckers is one hit wonders

One swing and you're crowned

Knocked one out the park, one catchy jingle and now

You think you fucking with me cause you sold like 300 thou

Bitch, I can jump without my feet ever leaving the ground

Reach up, swing from a cloud with 3 thousand people around

Evil and vile enough to leap in the crowd

And heave a child in a sink hole on Cinco De Mayo

When I'm sprinkled in pico de gallo

Mardi Gras beads in a towel

I just made that up

I don't know much Spanish, I'm not bilingual

But I'll show you a Mexican stand off

Between just these two amigos

Cause neither really wants to say what we're thinking out loud

But I sure as fuck think I know how rebody English, no doubt

Cause we're trying to kill each other, but lyrically

The fuck is humility? What is a real emcee?

Royce, he came up in the shit with me

Never spit that hustler shit, it wasn't a fit for me

Let them adjust 'til they just get the gist of me

Just not giving a fuck and plus with the history

Of muscular distrophy, it wasn't a mystery

Why this middle finger was stuck in this upward positioning

So what in the fuck is a list to me?

I'm used to not being on it, I expect it out 'em

Heck wit' em, I get my respect without 'em

Ain't really been into diamonds since I put my first record out

But I could put a chain around my second album

And wear it as a neck medallion

Became a millionaire, went downhill from there

Became civil, office swivel chair, sterling silverware

Screaming life is still unfair til I get a real career

The fuck am I gonna do until then? This job is too fulfilling

Two gazillion pairs of super villain shoes to fill in

And a mood to kill till I plow my Coupe de Ville

To some children at the food pavilion at Build-A-Bear

Warrior's mind, I’m pro-hydrocodone euphoria

In the drug emporium line, I'm soaring

I'm pouring Vicodin four at the time ignoring the warning signs on 'em fore I go four wheeler driving

Gory and violent and horrifying

You surely won't find no one more appalling

Than I am with this retaliatorial rhyming for Gloria Steinem

But I finger her like a witness, show me a line-up

I usually am abusive, but excuse me, ma'am

I guess I must've threw you for a loop like toucan Sam

When I said I could use the sample cause you'se a tramp

But look how you react to this trigger like

When I call you a bigger dyke than the Hoover Dam

You playing right in Lex Luthor's hands

It's such a ruthless plan, might even lose a fan

But fuck it, Superman wouldn't change in a phone booth for Stan

I'm a brand new being like Grand Puba's band

Happy as Anderson Cooper having a tuba crammed

In his pooper with lubricant...wait, that's too... I can't

Since honesty is the best policy I'll give you the old college try

Try to acknowledge my mistakes, probably won't qualify

As a gentleman and a scholar, but it's time that I swallow pride

And say that I'm sorry, sorry that I can't apologize

I think of all them times I compromised my bottom lines

And thought of rhymes that sodomized your daughter's minds

Then I'm like dollar signs

But I may fight for gay rights especially if they dyke

It's more of a knockout than Janay Rice

Play nice, bitch, I punch Lana Del Rey right

In the face twice like Ray Rice in broad daylight

In plain sight of the elevator surveillance

Til her head is banged on the railing

Then celebrate with the Ravens

Never date an assailant that self-medicates with inhalants

I meditate, but I may need a better way to escape

The aggression, rage and the anger

Cause them restraints on the ankles

Heavyweights and an anchor with handcuffs in chains

This ain't enough to contain it

But I still get the same respect as Jay if I came on

Stage in a fucking negligee everyday and Liz Claiborne

Devastated from breakup with Kate Hudson

Wait slut, your friends, what are they gonna say

Cause makeup ain't gonna cover

That eye that's seven-eighths of the way shut

Peppersprayed with your face cut

Made my bank like a lay up

Off these effing skanks on the way up

Oh, bitch thinks she's heaven sent

It's evident that she ain't never been with seven inches

Yes, I said seven, I measured it

Seven inches from the floor

While I'm standing on the fourth floor balcony

At the Sheridan when I'm stretching it

Bitch, I'm a pimp so a limp dick is all you'll ever get

So if she's hesitant to get the hint

I'll bet you that I get the message sent who she's messing with

Hella quick when I tell a chick not to never use sex as a weapon

When I step in and beat the wretched wench with a crescent wrench

Existential detriments to a lesbian devil

In the unpleasant stench of an estrogen level

That separatists like a Chechnian rebel

Impressionist with a pencil

A pessimist, with his lips pressed against

The edge of this Red Bull

Pedal to the metal I'm rippin' this shit cause right away I'll give it to a bitch like a pedestrian, deadly as ever

You see what kind of effects she has on the opposite sex when I push her flexible little sexy ass through a plate of plexiglass

SHADYXV as perplexing as

The last fifteen years and I'm predicting my next relapse

When I spit these lyrics so don't look at me weird

When I start shifting gears and shit re-smears all over Britney Spears

And these little Disney queers

Who use chicks for beards?

Just made that up too...

Oh and the Shady 2.0

We wrote it in roman numerals like they do for the Super Bowls

Cause it's supposed to confuse you hoes

The flows lose you as usual, so juvenile

2 year old when I go to the studio

It's only music but don't be foolish though

You don't know me through it ho but you can blow me to it though

In my homie's Buick

Been known to lose it though so if I overdo it you drove me to it

When I step in the vocal booth like I'm supposed to do

And I murder you on a fuckin' track like Tony Stewart

In one take, if I fuck up I don't redo it

You couldn't sound grown on a beat if you were moaning to it

The day I don't say fuck you all, you can throw me through it

Rootinest-tootinest, shootin' this from the hip

With the sentiments, Eminem isn't penning them for the women

I'm an enemy to them and the epitome of an inconsiderate idiot

But they consider me equivalent to chlamydia

They tryna get rid of me gadzooks

But I stiggity stand for the fliggity flag

Of the United States and the freedom, I distribute these raps through

And if I catch you doing anything

Hindering or prohibiting that after I give me that

Tattoo of your lips on my ass I'mma be literally

Pickin' up and deliberately whippin' the Statue of Liberty at you WOOOOH!

 

Fuck it

 

Got it somewhere in there probably

 

Oh, Eminem.    You have been hurt. For far too long you have carried the burden of a pseudowarrior mentality in a post-warrior society, along with the accompanying dickhurt. 

But yeah, he's not joking. He may still be "punching up," though. I think in a weird way he's commiserating with Janay Rice, saying she didn't get justice because she's not one of the "Beautiful People" that our culture cares about. While implicating himself as one of the "Rich People" feeding upon the beauty of others, and he does Ray Rice one "better" by targeting one of the Beautiful People he could catch hell for harming. Thus flaming us all for our entitlement issues, while mocking his own?

I don't know, I haven't followed Eminem and his themes. Am I close?

This, to me, is the question: did Eminem tell his tale the right way? I take it that for you, it depends on whether he is still successfully shocking us. I agree that the *character* in a song does not always need to be presented as a role model. Sometimes a message is simply, "Life is like this." But is that all there is to Eminem's message in "Shady Cxvpher"? Or is it more accurate to say the message is "Life is like this for men, so women should accept it and men should carry on"? Or is it more like, "Life is like this for men and women, so we need to break this pattern"? I'm not a fan or even a casual listener of Eminem, so I don't feel like I can say for sure. But it strikes me as somewhat naive to assume that just because an artist has successfully painted a picture without beating you over the head with it (so to speak), therefore there is no deeper meaning.

IMO, in art it matters not only how you say it, but what you're saying.

I agree -- he picked Lana for a reason, and this is part of the context he's speaking into. And he's doing it provocatively -- but does this mean he's trolling, in the sense of wanting a negative reaction and nothing else?

More crucial context. I wish I could find the lyrics in full (but darn Google is more into the controversy itself ATM)

Going out on an unpopular limb, I wish LDR would be even *more* influenced by Taylor Swift. She should release the AKA album on Spotify, and she should cull her leaks/unreleased catalog and release a killer country/folk album.

I know this is the unpopular opinions thread and I respect people having their own voice and stuff but this was kinda blasphemous. Leave the forum please.

 

 

jk but don't compare Lana to that bitch pls

 

Basically her marketing team should take a page from Taylor's team's playbook 

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To clarify, we could vote for songs that recycle some lyrics but are musically and otherwise distinctive (i.e., "Every Man Gets His Wish" and "Hawaiian Tropic" and "Daytona Meth"), and that won't violate #6, right?

Dangerous Girl is overrated. MMITPM was painful but it's gotta go.

I was hoping you'd do this again! Love the new categories.

May I inquire as to whether you will or will not be gaming your own system this year?

This Le Bon guy 

You guys have no idea how excited I am about this Kingdom duet.

Check out Arcadia's "So Red the Rose" (side project of LeBon and Rhodes from way back) if you never have

Okay, this is a great collection of songs. I think with the first tracklist you have flow *IF* you switch places for "Hundred Dollar Bill" and "Us Against the World" (assuming the 3:13 version of HDB... I just associate the 4:01 version so much with AKA.)

@@PrettyBaby thanks for the input! I cut the BtD album down a little so it would be more concise and cohesive. Now its:

1. Hundred Dollar Bill (I like both versions here, tbh)
2. Dum Dum
3. You Can Be the Boss
4. Driving In Cars With Boys
5. Kinda Outta Luck
6. Put the Radio On
7. Velvet Crowbar
8. Hollywood's Dead
9. Damn You
10. Us Against the World
11. Serial Killer
12. You and Me

I think you've achieved sonic flow with this tracklist. Thematically, I can't help but feel UATW should be moved to early on. I also think Live or Die should have a place somewhere. (Other possibilities are Queen of Disaster, TV in Black & White, and Prom Song (Gone Wrong).)

I'm keeping this collection  but this will be my tracklist:

1. Dum Dum

2. Us Against the World

3. Put the Radio On

4. Last Girl on Earth

5. You Can Be the Boss

6. Driving In Cars With Boys

7. Live or Die

8. Hundred Dollar Bill (3:13 demo)

9. Kinda Outta Luck

10. Hollywood's Dead

11. Damn You

12. Serial Killer

13. You and Me

Well at least there is a controversy in people's mind about UV (one I don't understand, but I see the argument, abandonment == lack of promotion). However, AKA doesn't have a controversy and remains an enigma (one I don't understand). I'm wondering if she wouldn't have had as much "authenticity" woes, if she would have just left that on iTunes and gone ahead with BTD.

I wonder that too... I guess there would have been even more people comparing BTD unfavorably to AKA though. (Not that it was a "sophomore slump" by any means.)

Well, the fire from the Dan version is gone. That's all I said I think

Yeah, it has a different vibe altogether.

What no! Start from the beginning of a season wtf!

But I don't have ep 1 hold me

West Coast (Radio Mix) takes on new life as SURF Noir, as opposed to Surf NOIR.