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That's the way I interpreted it too. I don't think there's really a comma there either.

Way to once again completely ignore most of the substance of what I wrote and just deflect by labeling it "defensive". Excuse me for the natural desire to want to be properly understood and not have people take offense. But there's no surer sign of a person no longer able or willing to defend their argument than responding to an opponents' point-by-point rebuttal with a cry of "Stop being so defensive!" Now this notion of me not "allowing" anyone to take offense at what I say or have a different view is a very curious rhetorical construction you're using here. If I were truly capable of that, and determined to do that, as you say, we wouldn't be having this back and forth, now would we? I'm no more capable of that than you are of not allowing anyone to question your view or taking of offense. Because, though you hide it in this rhetorical disguise, that is the implication (yes, IMPLICATION! ): that you're somehow entitled to be able to express your different view or offense-taking without it being questioned or challenged. If someone does, they're somehow not "allowing" you to have a different view or take offense. Isn't that what a discussion forum is for? To discuss, debate, and challenge each other's ideas? I'm perfectly fine with someone having a different view or taking offense with something I said. Just don't distort my view, take offense at your distorted view of what I said or knee-jerk react to phrases that in isolation vaguely sound like they might be offensive, but in context of the point being made are not, and then expect me not to take issue with it. Would it completely undermine my point or the original point of this thread to end my post with the bitch fight emote?

If you read what I wrote carefully, the antecedent of the word "that" in the sentence you quote was her history of saying "really questionable shit about gay men". Are you saying people should agree with all the questionable shit she's said about gay men? The interpretation my post offered most clearly... if you ignored half of what I wrote. Just saying bro. Good god, this is getting fucking ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with merely expressing surprise that people seem to be giving a pass to someone saying offensive things about a group and being even more surprised that many people in the group in question seem to be giving them a pass. The latter is simply a recognition of the sad reality that people who are not part of the group often don't care as much. Lately you almost seem determined to read things into my posts that aren't there.

I haven't implied that there's something problematic about gays men supporting her generally. Just that I don't think she should be given pass by anyone on her history of questionable comments about gay men. Though many people, including gays, have made that implication and I wouldn't say that opinion is without any merit. Um, so where did you read that into my post largely about disagreeing with people you generally agree with when they're wrong?

I wasn't really intending to imply any reason why you always seem to "Like" his most terribly argued posts, especially ones that suggest people should be dismissed based entirely on who they are (this time that the facts they present should be dismissed, not only their opinions!), just that you can always be counted on do so. It's an idea that I think is bad enough that people should be called out for agreeing with, end of story.

LOL. You're a parody of yourself yet again: Dismissing out of hand what someone says entirely because of who they are rather than what they're saying, as usual. Immediately deflecting with the phrase "textbook definitions" because you have no argument when someone calls you out for having your facts wrong. Saying you don't agree something is offensive, but that you'll stop doing it if a woman tells you it's offensive in a thread about a woman saying it's offensive. Are a man expressing an opinion contrary to a woman on a subject while saying men's opinions on the subject shouldn't be listened to in response to someone who hadn't even expressed an opinion on the subject yet. And look at @@Atom Heart knee-jerk "Like"-ing every post of yours in disagreement with me no matter how poorly argued. You should really ask the admin for an auto-"Like" button for that shit. It would really save you a lot of time. evilentitties?? jacktitties??? Ha, yeah, it is super ironic that @@comeintomybedroom, not a member of the group most affected, is arguing that a word has always been used more generally than just that group, after complaining about me doing that. The key difference, of course, being that in my case that was actually true. This is far from the only time she's said really questionable shit about gay men. I'm really mystified why so many people, especially gay men, are giving her a pass on that. Is this sort of like how so many of you give Lana a pass on stupid shit she says because you stan her music? Are you so dug in defending Azealia's side in other Twitter spats that you can't do the mental gymnastics required to side against her in this one? I've never understood why it's so hard to say someone's in the wrong when they are just because you generally like them or generally agree with them, or say someone's right when they are just because you generally dislike them or generally disagree with them. I've never had much of a problem with that. Which is why-- to actually express an opinion on the subject now-- I have no problem saying I think perpetual Twitter troll Azealia has a point here about the use of the word "bitch". (Although I think the answer is not to justify the use of the word "fag" or "faggot" as a slur, as she does, but to stop using the word "bitch" offensively.) As @@YUNGATA points out, it's all about context, of course. I could write a book length post on which instances I think are OK and which I think are not, and whether Lana's uses of the word herself are problematic, but one use in particular I've seen on this forum that makes me cringe is when people say about Lana or other women "this bitch needs to do X" or something like that. Intentionally or not, that comes across with a misogynistic undertone.

Kinda like how "racism" has always meant only systemic rac... er, prejudice. inb4 @ chastises me for trying to (hu)mansplain to her (technically a bitch) the definition of the word "bitch".

Noteworthy. Illustrative. And yes, even a little surprising that it's that bad.

That's a fair point as far as it goes, but the highest ranked African American was only #30. And there didn't appear to be a whole lot of diversity on that list period.

Anybody else notice that the Top 10 is entirely white and male? Or that there are only 15 women and 10 black people on the whole fucking list? Which is even worse than it sounds considering some people share their spot on the list with other people (i.e. there's more than 100 people and still only 15 women and 10 black people).

Why is my opinion specifically being solicited about this particular artist?

Olympic gold medalist decathlete Bruce Jenner's transition from male to female has got nothing on yours from feline to canine.

And likely neither does anybody else. The three you listed are the only ones we have evidence for.

This has been asked and answered numerous time ( ) but here it is again:

You answered your own question:

Why am I not surprised @@Trash Magic started this thread?

It's not so much a stutter as her saying the same thing intentionally out of synch in two different vocal harmonies. Also, I love how the second time she says "Sun reflecting in his eyes" in one harmony and "Death reflecting in his eyes" in the other. Anyone still want to try to tell me she's not fixated on death? Yes, "Bentley" is yet another example of a specific type of death that is prevalent enough in her work to be discussed as a recurring theme separate from the theme of death generally-- death by drowning, or at least the association of death and water.

Lana complaining about her tour manager's advice to use the bathroom before going on stage?

Merged here.

Mmm.... Why you make me work so hard To put on that evening show When you know that all I want Is to make your money grow? You're like a baby who don't got nowhere to go I feel you eyeing me, you keep it on the low (on the low, on the low) But I can't let you in And I can't keep you out I wait for life to [win/mend/end?] But it never comes around And I can't hear you call And I can't hear me [shout?] I wait for it to break But it never comes around And I'm lonely I'm lonely I'm lonely Why you make me take that shit To put on that evening show When you know I don't need it Better than your booze and blow? You're like a baby, don't know better, you don't know You drag me down, you try to keep it on the low But I can't let you in And I can't keep you out I wait for life to [win/mend/end?] But it never comes around And I can't hear you call And I can't hear me [shout?] I wait for it to break But it never comes around (Scatting) Feel like I'm falling apart (Scatting) Feel like I'm falling apart (Scatting) Feel like I'm falling apart Would you tell me? Would you tell me? Would you tell me? But I can't let you in And I can't keep you out I wait for life to [win/mend/end?] But it never comes around And I can't hear you call And I can't hear me [shout?] I wait for it to break But it never comes around And I'm lonely I'm lonely I'm lonely

Was hoping she rapped in an exaggerated Australian accent.