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Thank you so much MoveBaby! I really try, but it's hard in those LanaBoards water. Your posts are well articulated as well! Some members can beat around the bushes all they want, but we all know what they're really saying. They want Lana to be beige and tamed! But above all, can't stand the idea of being critical towards Lana. Oh well. If by same old same old they mean quality production, intricate instrumentation and atmospheric soundscape, then hell yeah I want same old same old.

My thought exactly. It's not terrible, it's just not impressive or that interesting. It's just a collage of random footage Lana thought looked nice and cute and mod podged the whole thing together with a vintage filter and called it a day (footage that we had already seen a year prior to the video I might add). At this point with Honeymoon at least there was somewhat of a narrative, with the triple video it's not much that it's boring or lazy, it's just that it's so random and unrelated to the songs. It's very middle of the road.

Has there ever been written anything more accurate about this album? How you describe Jack's production (hard to get more accurate than that). You just get it! So good!

I'm legit going to frame your comment.

It's a great album to listen to when you painting your entire house with beige paint. I appreciate that he went into a different direction as far as production and melodic construction go. But, like you said, it's pretty straightforward comparatively to her other albums. I don't want to use the word dreamy, but like it's not very dreamy. But then again, that's just my repetitive opinion.

I mean props to him for going in a totally different way than Lana's previous producers/collaborators, and bringing this new horizon of songs. But like I said a million times before I just do not like his style of production on this record. It lacks the level of intricacy and the cinematic, mysterious and enchanting vibe the past albums had. The other albums you can dig into them and be amazed after listening to them for a thousand times. NFR is great, but it's very much surface level to me.

You're right about that though. From what I've listened NFR is different than what he has also produced in the past. But, to the risk of annoying some of y'all again (not sorry about that), the production and mastering was still not it. Am I blaming Jack for the shortcomings of this album? Absolutely. But Lana was in charge of all of that for sure as well. She's as equally responsible if not more. Hence me saying she needs to ditch all previous collaborators and find someone brand new, someone more challenging than a Yes man.

Also, don't stone me (again, again and again), but I hate when Lana talks about her next move this early. The roll out of her albums are always messy, unprepared and not thought out. I feel like she's already foreshadowing another beige record with what she wrote on Instagram. Like she's talking about her next move this early and her latest album was released less than four months ago. Sis, enjoy that praise while it lasts, work a little on your Grammy campaign (because it desperately needs a little kick) than go undercover and work on your music and don't (over)tease it every so often. That way you won't already feel like your album will be fall flat like you said so.

I feel like Lana going out of her comfort zone would be working with totally different producers, ditching Rick Nowels, Kieron Menzies (wherever he is) and of course: Jack. Improving her songwriting? I mean I feel like Honeymoon was her peak as far as great lyrics go. Lust or Life did feel like somewhat of a regression in that regards, with a bunch of futile and juvenile lyrics (though there were some very introspective songs: Get Free & Heroin). NFR while there were great lyrical moments (Hope is probably one of her best, if not her best song as far lyrical structure and content are concerned), there are also very subpar lyrics, that while some fans live for them, they are still that: subpar. Although it was overall an improvement from LFL, yet lightyears behind Honeymoon. But that's my two cent. For her next record, Lana needs to work with someone completely different and create something unexpected. I pray Jesus everyday that Lana and Kevin Parker get in the studio together. While it's obviously going to be different, I feel like the spirit or vibe of the next record will be similar to NFR; as Jack so elegantly put it: this fucked up sorta folk album. We'll see.

Oh good for Lana seriously. Although, maybe in the eyes of critics NFR will have bigger shoes to fill, but comparatively to her first three records and fan appreciation/perception, this could easily be surpassed. Can't wait for what she brings next!

Somehow this is the best summarization I've read about this video.

Au grand dam de certains utilisateurs de LanaBoards, je vais continuer d'écrire mes commentaires et donner mon opinion sur l'album que ça vous plaise ou non. J'aime à penser que j'apporte une certaine diversité d'opinion sur le forum, je comprends que mes commentaires puissent avoir été perçus comme étant négatifs et/ou répétitifs. Mais à ce que je sache LanaBoards n'est pas un état totalitaire, et je pense qu'on se doit de promouvoir une certaine diversité d'opinion. Comparer mes opinions à de la litière à chat... wow. Ça ne s'invente pas! C'est pas parce qu'on n'est pas d'accord avec l'opinion des autres qu'on doit automatiquement donner dans l'insulte et la bassesse. Comme on dit: quand on a pas de culture, on bascule rapidement dans la vulgarité. Dans la vie j'ai l'intime conviction qu'on doit apprendre que ce la diversité d'opinion ça existe et que l'on aura pas toujours le dernier mot dans un débat et/ou une discussion. Dans un sens je comprends que mes commentaires sonnent probablement très négatifs pour certaines personnes ici, voir même beaucoup. Mais je me considère encore comment étant un grand fan de Lana. Je pense aussi avoir droit d'exprimer une certaine pensée critique envers celle-ci, elle n'est pas aussi parfaite que certaine personne le laisse entendre ici. Je pense aussi que mes commentaires ont autant leur place sur le forum, ou cette discussion en particulier, que les commentaires de d'autres utilisateurs qui sont, à mon humble avis, tout aussi répétitifs que les miens. Bref, j'aimerais conclure en disant que j'en ai franchement rien à chier que vous n'aimez pas ce que j'ai à dire ici. J'ai le droit à mon opinion et aussi le droit de la répéter autant de fois que ça va me tenter. Il n'y a personne, et je répètes bien: personne. Qui va me mettre au silence et avoir le dernier mot sur moi. Sur ce, comme je pense qu'il n'y aura pas beaucoup de personne qui vont être capable de lire mon commentaire jusqu'ici, et aussi que la traduction risque de laisser à désirer, j'aimerais terminer en disant ceci: à toutes les personnes qui ne m'aiment pas ici, vous pouvez tous manger de la crisse de marde. Je vous emmerdes profondément, tous autant que vous êtes. Soyez en conscient. Merci. Signé, un intellectuel averti.

Well that was cute. There are bits and pieces that are fun in this video, she really is going for a carefree spirit (obligatory fresh out of fucks forever comment). Overall it's a nice video, the Bambi/animation bits were nice and cute as well. There were awkward/cringy parts though, her dancers not knowing the lyrics and also Lana faking playing the piano was... a choice. Overall this video represents very well this era: she's really going for this amateur/DIY-ish kinda beige approach to everything and seems to be enjoying every minute of it. Good for her.

So should we just close the thread now that everything has been said about the record? I'm going to continue posting my thoughts on the album, whether or not you find me repetitive. I'm being just as repetitive as other users that post other types of comments on here. I definitely understand that my comments are probably repetitive, and a lot of you all are like "ugh we get it MXDH doesn't like NFR", but this is the NFR thread and I'm writing about NFR. If I were to write the repetitive comments but from a positive perspective and say how much I think the record is amazing with no criticism whatsoever, pretty sure my so called repetitive comments would go over well, wouldn't they? You can selectively clutch your pearls and decide what comment is annoying, or not, and decide the validity of my comments as much as you want. That's on you. What I'm trying to say is that some people come here to praise the album on a daily basis, and others, very much like me, come here to offer a different point of view on the album (as repetitive and annoying; you and other people think it is), so who cares really? Yes, this, in a way, relates to freedom of speech, it's like "oh you've said it already and I don't agree with with some of, if not all the things you've written about, please refrain from further participating in this discussion, thank you". Well no, Body Electric. At this point, you either scroll past my repetitive comments or you mute/block me. Pretty simple.

I've literally been told, don't laugh, that I look like James Corden

I was honestly about to write you a long ass post about how I'm sorry if I've offended or annoyed people on this thread with my opinions on Lana, Jack, the production, the visuals, the tour setlist, Lana's antics, etc. But I went to think about it and you know what? I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry for one bit that I don't give into the circlejerk-ish ways of some of the users on this thread. We're all fans of Lana, but that doesn't mean we all appreciate the same thing. She has literally hundreds of unreleased songs in her catalog, as well as 6 officially released studio album that are drastically different, and one EP for people to enjoy. We all appreciare Lana's work on different level and that's how it should be. I honestly can't with some of y'all, which I assume would literally be at the forefront of discussions about freedom of speech, but whenever they see a lot of comments from the same users they are like "ahhhh ok we get it you don't like the album, now shut up". I've honestly been quoted by at least five users since yesterday for that. Well flash news: I won't stop sharing my personal thoughts on the album for you guys to stop whining. If you don't like my comments, scroll past them, no one is forcing you to read what I or other people have to say about the album. I've never once blocked/muted anyone on this thread, not even that Jared dude, you know why? Because I genuinely feel like people have the right to write whatever they want, even though I don't agree with what's being written. Also, quite frankly, I find that to be completely harmless, if you can't properly articulate your opinion about something and resort to parrot critics, I don't know it kinda makes me feel validated lol. Bottom line, aaall of this are my opinions. This is the NFR thread and I'm discussing NFR, whether or not you find me repetitive or annoying, I'm not going anywhere.

OK Jared. We get it, Jack pays your rent. We know. It's that obvious. My DMs on here, comments' likes, Instagram mentions and Reddit posts I've read beg to differ though, but I guess you don't know what that's like to be in touch with other fans that think alike, so you like to imply that I have some sort of schizophrenia complexion, that's very, very funny Jared. But go off about how I'm mirroring my own thoughts unto other peeps. Aren't you that one Jack stan one here that has not the ability to express personal views and parrots critics 24/7? Hang me out to be the delusional one.

True, but at the same time let's not act like there aren't other users on here that repeat themselves ad nauseam. Isn't there that one other user that only come here to parrot critics and kiss Jackoff's butt and reposts the same creepy gif too? But also most notoriously goes on tangents about

Am I being negative or mad? I don't know possibly. Am I being critical? Absolutely. We can agree to disagree. But I've been in touch with a lot of fans on LanaBoards and on other platforms, and what I'm writing here is a shared sentiment with a lot of other fans. You can think I'm "pressed" or "mad", anything you want. Doesn't change how much a lot of fans think this album is incredibly underwhelming, lackluster and even dreary. Also coming for me for writing my thoughts on NFR in the NFR thread... choices. I understand that I write a lot of the same comments, but at the same time like I've said a million times before it's just my opinion, if you get annoyed over opinions, especially mine, that's on you, not me. I like to think that I participate in a discussion and I add a little bit more to said discussion than ask other users: "what's your favorite song? ", "what song grew the most on you? ", "rank from least favorite, to most favorite songs on the album? ", "what zodiac sign would you associate with each song? ". But also certain user(s) that are completely foreign to the concept of critical thinking and personal input and are only here to parrot critics over this single album. All of y'all a have good day though! PS: My ears are fine, there's difference between hearing impairment and having taste.

this era is amateur through and through

I know she's beautiful. What I meant to say was that it's silly to deny that she's had work done on her face, because while she's beautiful, she doesn't have that natural of facial features.

Unpopular (or maybe popular?) I hate when Lana fans act as if Lana is a natural looking person. Like it's painfully obvious that she has had permanent work done on her face, and gets fillers/procedures done every now and then. Not saying she doesn't look great (although sometimes it's a little iffy), but there's literally no point in denying that Lana has had work done at this point.

whenever someone mentions plastic surgery/fillers on the subreddit I swear there's at least 10 gays that threatens to sue because Lana "has never!!1!"

Agree that it's more circlejerky than LB, but it's not all giggles and confetti. We get messy there sometimes too.

No one cares, Jack.