fraises

Ya, it's unfortunate how many ~13th step~ people there are out there. 
 
for anyone looking for the original posts about this http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/540-lana-sleuthing/page-9?hl=%2Batlantic+%2Bgroup&do=findComment&comment=77483

I think it's stupid to say he's gonna leak it.
It's too much problems that can come with it.
Leaking is an anonymous act.
N'ayez confiance en personne.

It was in one of the threads about her old private Facebook. They had a bunch of screenshots and she mentioned AG in one or two of them.
 
 
They really are extremely creepy. (They'd have "Young People's" meetings where the young girls would be coerced into having sex with one of the older guys, and that occurred in multiple spin-offs of the Atlantic Group and Pacific Group.)

"men are my passion" lmao
 
I understand what she means but I don't say these things out loud
 
why is she so easy to make fun of?

Can people please stop being so rude? Did I offend you in any way? No, I didn't, I simply stated my opinion and if you don't agree with it, you may tell me politely or you may not tell me at all. Also, what's wrong with being politically correct? Why make it sound like an insult towards me? Or did you just want to be sassy because you were bored? Jesus Christ, get a life.

it is just as discriminatory as a racist or homophobic word. i literally don't know how many times i have to say this; sexism is just as serious a problem as racism, homophobia, ableism and all other forms of discrimination in the world.
 
and i'm sorry, but how often are men repeatedly oppressed and objectified in the media? how often is a man chastised for sleeping around? how often is a man sexualised as an object? how often is a man's sexuality repeatedly described as something sinful or shameful?

are you really trying to compare a loaded fucking word like "whore" - which is used to humiliate, dehumanize, shame ETC ETC ETC women for having sex/doing anything in sexual nature to ...calling a dude a wanker? which means what exactly? i have never heard anyone call a dude a wanker before in my life. know how many times i've heard men call women whores - for doing pretty much anything, from wearing short dresses to flirting at a party to having consentual sex?
 
give me a break.

yeah but what she is doing is celebrating misogynistic attitudes, which is just as bad as racism or homophobia. she's encouraging the anti-feminist sentiment in our society that a woman who sleeps around is 'shameful'.

This one. I think it was this one anyway.
 
And you can find a lot of less-than-positive stories about the Atlantic and Pacific Groups on a few websites, like Orange Papers.

Noooo way, really? Wow... that is really something. Which website are you referring to? I am so curious now 
 
 
 
Is this really true? If so, then you have done incredible research loool. Do you have a source for this information? I just want to dig my teeth in deeper, that's all 

It's immature and embarrassing tbh. Everyone's gonna talk about that song and not because it's so very well composed, no because it's a diss song.

FMWUTTT has been totally ruined for me when she started slut shaming. I'm really disappointed.

I wonder if she calls the ~guru~ jim because of jim jones.

I wonder if she calls the ~guru~ jim because of jim jones.

I'm not dismissing it. I'm just saying it's fucked up what the man did.

Whatever, the premise for the song just sounds as petty as fuck, just like So Legit. Hopefully she's exaggerating the content of the song and its limited to a single verse or something.

And I honestly wouldn't put it past Lana to make a diss track about a 17 year old Lorde. 

Lana can be like petulant child sometimes, she just gets so butthurt. 

People are saying that Gaga has never dissed/criticized Lana. Well, maybe not publicly but Lana & Gaga have a lot of history together so maybe something was said behind the scenes. It's not like the internet is the only way celebrities communicate, after all. I definitely think it's Gaga and not Lorde. Lana obviously has a distaste for Gaga (see: So Legit & the "when will people be over her" FB post) so it actually wouldn't be too surprising to see even more shade being thrown. I'm excited to hear the song but on the other hand I do think Lana's being awfully petty... I mean, writing a song bashing another artist and officially releasing it on what's going to be one of the best-selling albums this year is a bit extreme, don't you think? 

I'd like to see the original Grazia source rather than this translation of a secondhand source, but assuming this describes it accurately... when exactly did she have time for a cult in between living with her boyfriend in Alabama and having a 7-year relationship with a label head?

I honestly don't think it's about Lorde because it's too recent and all of her songs are rooted into things that happened in the past. I mean Lana is almost 30, Lorde is 17, what kinda grown ass woman would pick on a 17 year old ? especially in these circumstances. Lorde changes her opinions every other week anyway.
The only reasonable assumption would be that it's about Gaga, since it's the only "beef" she's ever had with anyone (So legit, I mean c'mon)+ the interviewer brought her up in another question before this one, which I think made her a little more fired up + the whole "art" comment.
 
Or she's just fucking with us.

Finally I understand Butterflies Part 2.

oh.....
 
I was going to buy this if this interview was from like 2011 or something bc this betch can't keep track of her lies for that long but since it's from 2014...lol @ how convenient this little reveal is. Bringing up that she was a former cult member right during her promotion for UV & she knows ppl will wonder about that "ur my cult leader" lyric so she made up some fanfiction.
 
slaY me princess. when will ur faves etc 
 
 
Lana worked for Terry Richardson??

MAN, I wonder why. Freedom obviously comes only from within and the society you live in makes no difference in your amount of freedom. Silly feminists. 
 
 
god I need to stop looking at this thread

Honestly this fanbase can be so embarrassing. I know we take pride in Lana sorta science (except more like science fiction) background, but this assumption that she's simply "too deep and complicated for every journalist she's ever encountered so how could they possibly get her" is just silly. She's not a hardline feminist, cool. You do you, and frankly I'm not going to stop listening to her for it, despite feeling very passionately about it myself.
 
BUT THE TRUTH IS:
She did this headline to herself. There was a more evenhanded way to approach it and she knows it. She was trying to sound tragic and inward, and I guess she did, but she also sounded super ignorant too. Of course you, as a rich white popstar in 2014, are unmoved by feminism. But something tells me if she actually had to live Marilyn's life, she'd want some more of it. All it says to me is that she's looking at it from an extremely selfish point of view. "I don't feel like I need feminsm because I feel free" is all good and well when you are apart of one of the most free demographics in the world. She says "let's talk about science" but how many girls (especially non-white and non-western girls) are shut out and pushed away from being interested in science? There are lots of feminists talking about that. That's intersectionality, Lizzy.
 
And attempting to drag people for thinking she sounds dumb juts makes you sound x2 worse tbh. "I bet you didn't know about feminism before tumblr" isn't even a fucking insult. I've personally been a feminist for a long time, but god forbid people actually learn about something useful on the fucking internet.

What's more annoying are people who construct a straw man (straw woman? lol) of what feminism is and use it to blithely write off the entire feminist movement and the entirety of feminist thought.
 
This is one of the dumber comments I've seen on this forum. And that's saying something.
 
She's practically begging for Lanalysis.
 
I haven't read Heavier Than Heaven, but I had the same thought when reading that part of the interview.
 
Although it should be noted that Lana didn't talk about it, the writer mentioned it. I get the sense a lot of things mentioned in the article came from the writer's own research (sometimes wrong, see Lana Del Ray A.K.A. Lizzy Grant) rather than talking to Lana. Not that Lana wouldn't give the writer wrong information too ("the 27-year-old Lana Del Rey").

my two cents
 
What i find strangest about her apparent complete ignorance of what feminism actually is - or what it does for her and millions of other women - is that her early BTD era career was so effected by what could be explained by sexism. I don't see men being questioned for their legitimacy nearly as much as women. Much of it was about her appearance at first, too.  It's also a really selfish approach to say "I don't need feminism, I'm free enough, it's boring" because great! She's rich and middle class and feels that way, fine. But for millions upon millions of other women, that's not the case. It's like not backing something just because it doesn't benefit you, even though it benefits billions of other people (and has and does benefit her...).
 
Having said that, I understand why she is disillusioned with feminism because she had some harsh, harsh criticisms from particularly feminist reviewers. Some of which, I also thought were unnecessarily harsh on her. Men get to write about these dark, inner thoughts and be called artistic, she does the same and gets huge backlash (because of the responsibility that gets placed on women in any kind of power). I understand it, but I also understand why she would take that to heart so personally and become jaded with the concept.
 
Ultimately, I wish she didn't have such an insular, "me me me" view on it... or at least be smarter in how it effects other people reading it. She could have easily just not answered that question, or found a filler question to use, rather than so carelessly disregard something with a pseudo-intelligent "lol stars and big galaxies what about me". I do feel like there's something up with her at the moment though and hope she's doing okay. All her answers are so very calculatedly Cobain or Morrison.

Lana manages to describe exactly what feminism is and say she has no interest in it, yeah that’s real intellectual Lana
 
“My idea of a true feminist  is a woman who feels free enough to do whatever she wants.”    
 
Lana that is feminism, it's about being equal and free to do what you want as a female but you find it an uninteresting concept, oh okay don’t worry about the centuries of women that did have enough interest in the concept of equality and freedom for you to be where you are today to say and do the idiotic things you do           
 
Oh the shame of the contradiction, oh the irony how embarrassing. It’s so bad it’s worse than Alanis Morissette’s ‘Ironic’              
 
Now I’ll say something that makes me sound intelligent
 
“I’m more interested in, you know, SpaceX and Tesla, what’s going to happen with our intergalactic possibilities.”         
 
But you already FAILED an intelligence question, this just makes you sound like an idiot
 
“I’d been sick on tour for about two years with this medical anomaly that doctors couldn’t figure out,” she says, to my surprise. “That’s a big part of my life; I just feel really sick a lot of the time and can’t figure out why. It’s just heavy performing for people who really care about you, and you don’t really care that much about yourself sometimes. I thought it was sad. I thought my position was sad. I thought it was sad to be in Ireland singing for people who really cared when I wasn’t sure if I did.”
 
Okay just drop the Kurt Cobain mimicking. This is a carbon copy of Kurt’s description of his unexplained illness
 
"Choose your idol wisely; read books do what they did"
FFS that doesn’t mean you literally have to mimic everything out of Heavier than Heaven, it's too much. This is just too embarrassing     
Lizzy you have to get over your envy of Kurt Cobain, he was who he was but.... who are you