longtimeman

The competitions all done, and I'd like to congratulate @@Rhubarb on winning it. Thanks to everyone who entered, and helped me to celebrate a year of Lana obsession with a fun contest.
 

Remember how frustrated and bemused you used to be when every article about her got her date of birth wrong? That's the same feeling a lot of us have when article after article, year after year, presents her career as this 90 degree sharp turn from airheaded blonde pop starlet Lizzy Grant to dark enchanting creation of back room managers Lana Del Rey, without even bothering to look at what she was doing when she had a different hair colour. It's not even like they need to go out and buy a record - they just have to sit at home and spend a bit of time on Youtube. 
 
Just because decent journalism is rare doesn't mean we should give terrible writing a pass.

She got her OWN network.  

Oh, I never said this article was good or even close to accurate. I completely agree with you that it's shoddy and they get her wrong. I just don't think it's all that negative.  

I think this is jumping to conclusions. Maybe this is why, maybe not. But if we're going to read that much into tweets, then Daddy Grant apparently didn't have a problem with it. The Robster tweeted a link to it and hasn't deleted it.

you're Jesus, right   thank you so much for this ! 

Remember how frustrated and bemused you used to be when every article about her got her date of birth wrong? That's the same feeling a lot of us have when article after article, year after year, presents her career as this 90 degree sharp turn from airheaded blonde pop starlet Lizzy Grant to dark enchanting creation of back room managers Lana Del Rey, without even bothering to look at what she was doing when she had a different hair colour. It's not even like they need to go out and buy a record - they just have to sit at home and spend a bit of time on Youtube. 
 
Just because decent journalism is rare doesn't mean we should give terrible writing a pass.

Remember how frustrated and bemused you used to be when every article about her got her date of birth wrong? That's the same feeling a lot of us have when article after article, year after year, presents her career as this 90 degree sharp turn from airheaded blonde pop starlet Lizzy Grant to dark enchanting creation of back room managers Lana Del Rey, without even bothering to look at what she was doing when she had a different hair colour. It's not even like they need to go out and buy a record - they just have to sit at home and spend a bit of time on Youtube. 
 
Just because decent journalism is rare doesn't mean we should give terrible writing a pass.

Remember how frustrated and bemused you used to be when every article about her got her date of birth wrong? That's the same feeling a lot of us have when article after article, year after year, presents her career as this 90 degree sharp turn from airheaded blonde pop starlet Lizzy Grant to dark enchanting creation of back room managers Lana Del Rey, without even bothering to look at what she was doing when she had a different hair colour. It's not even like they need to go out and buy a record - they just have to sit at home and spend a bit of time on Youtube. 
 
Just because decent journalism is rare doesn't mean we should give terrible writing a pass.

The competitions all done, and I'd like to congratulate @@Rhubarb on winning it. Thanks to everyone who entered, and helped me to celebrate a year of Lana obsession with a fun contest.
 

This pretty much covers my feelings, and I'm enjoying the discussion here. I don't think the clip is inherently pro- or anti-rape, and I don't think any reaction to 'transgressive' art is wrong. It's meant to elicit strong reaction, but that doesn't mean people are being out of line by having those strong (negative) reactions. 

Remember how frustrated and bemused you used to be when every article about her got her date of birth wrong? That's the same feeling a lot of us have when article after article, year after year, presents her career as this 90 degree sharp turn from airheaded blonde pop starlet Lizzy Grant to dark enchanting creation of back room managers Lana Del Rey, without even bothering to look at what she was doing when she had a different hair colour. It's not even like they need to go out and buy a record - they just have to sit at home and spend a bit of time on Youtube. 
 
Just because decent journalism is rare doesn't mean we should give terrible writing a pass.

i think that's precisely where the sniping remarks come from. maxim doesn't care about what's inside. their angle is always sex; not brains / creativity / style (or music, even). all the other publications that interview her typically come from other angles. but the fact that lana has so much external beauty (the main focus of maxim) in addition to a massively complex internal world; well that will always be off putting to some people (particularly someone at maxim, i'd imagine)
 
this might make me sound like some feminazi dyke with a bra and a bic (or whatever politically warped cliche i'm about to perpetuate), but i think many men are terrified of beautiful women. now give said woman a brain and most would probably consider her to be a legitimate threat and/or danger to their well being (or ego, lord forbid) 
 

 
its not just women that 'hate' other women. men can be just as cruel, but for different reasons 

Remember how frustrated and bemused you used to be when every article about her got her date of birth wrong? That's the same feeling a lot of us have when article after article, year after year, presents her career as this 90 degree sharp turn from airheaded blonde pop starlet Lizzy Grant to dark enchanting creation of back room managers Lana Del Rey, without even bothering to look at what she was doing when she had a different hair colour. It's not even like they need to go out and buy a record - they just have to sit at home and spend a bit of time on Youtube. 
 
Just because decent journalism is rare doesn't mean we should give terrible writing a pass.

Very true. Any writer that can write something as bland and outright wrong as "That nastiness pervaded her new identity as well. Lizzy Grant was all about blond sweetness, but Lana Del Rey flaunted her obsessions with fatalism, death, seediness, and danger" can be ignored completely. It's not only that they've obviously never listened to a Lizzy Grant era song, it's that this is just the old authenticity/persona debate that we should be well and truly past be now.

You beautiful person @@longtimeman    thank you for the opportunity!

The competitions all done, and I'd like to congratulate @@Rhubarb on winning it. Thanks to everyone who entered, and helped me to celebrate a year of Lana obsession with a fun contest.
 

entering can't hurt this is awesome around the holiday season

I feel really bad for her, actually. She's tricked into thinking that she's in a safe place with a journalist and then they go and write a passive-aggressive article with the same kind of vitriol that she's been a victim of since her first taste of fame. That slander she constantly faces is also something that they took the time to point out in the article before contradicting themselves and producing their own version.

The Playground/Dum Dum single is like something out of a dream.

Very true. Any writer that can write something as bland and outright wrong as "That nastiness pervaded her new identity as well. Lizzy Grant was all about blond sweetness, but Lana Del Rey flaunted her obsessions with fatalism, death, seediness, and danger" can be ignored completely. It's not only that they've obviously never listened to a Lizzy Grant era song, it's that this is just the old authenticity/persona debate that we should be well and truly past be now.

Kind of shitty and insulting article. I thought the part where she says she lives in east los angeles and speaks spanish in all her songs, and the interviewer has an aside where he says neither of those are true -- was actually very indicative of the dynamic between LDR and the media. It seems she says things that are kind of hyperbolic not meaning them to be taken literally (she lives in koreatown, she speaks spanish in some of her songs) but then the media nitpicks what she says and accuses her of lying. I don't think lying is really what she is doing but I also don't think she cares much about telling the truth. Anyways I just thought that part was weird/kind of interesting.

Playground 7" Picture Disc.
Side A- Playground
Side B- Dum Dum
 

 

 
Thank you all for your feedback, please keep it coming and any critique x

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