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MTWBT lost me for a second but now it's among my favorites again. Lyrically it's so low key creepy cute

I hope that I got most of the things right... i LOVE the song so much! So beautiful! I wish there were more "simple" Lana songs like that. Just piano and vocals. That's enough.

I don't know if y'all realize but Adele worked with Emile Haynie for part of her album. 
In b4 we get Born to Die 2.0 - Adele style
At least it won't be trash like Copycat Swift.

It only means no tour for this album. Surely we'll get an album next year and she'll tour that one in 2017

Just imagine Lana Del Babies gonna come out with lip glossed lips, pig tails & crying for daddy

you are a toenail lined with yellow lights on a dark night

i think she is comparing herself a cult leader by saying "put your white tennis shoes on and follow me"
kinda being like if you follow me, you'll have a clean start

Sometimes I can't stand to listen this album and then all of sudden I'm addicted and completely blown away by it. 
 
off topic: I can't see my profile picture. Am I a tropico now? 

I just had an epiphany, I need to go to Tiffany's
 
Aaaaanyways, why doesn't she do a live set and puts it on YT performing songs from Hennymoon?
 
I mean, she could just rent a room, let her band come over, hire like two or three background singers since she wants to work with some in the future anyway and let Francesco hold the camera.
 
She could play like 6 songs from Honeymoon and upload it on Vevo.
 
If she doesn't want to perform on TV or TV shows simply don't wanna book her and a tour is prolly not happening anyway, she can at least do this.
 
She has all the resources she needs: money to pay the musicians, material to work with and a boyfriend who is a director.

That's EXACTLY what I hear too. EXACTLY. Thanks for speaking my mind sis..

God knows I try not to skip God Knows I Tried, but it's just so repetitive by the end, sometimes I can't deal with it 

I am feeling it and I ain't gonna stop feeling Honeymoon.
 
did anyone but me think that perhaps Ryan Murphy beg borrowed or stole Honeymoon and made it into Hotel?
 
not to mention Freak and Art Deco (and I have thought from the start Art Deco was about Stefani anyhow).
 
as the saying goes Lana please-, "Illegitmi Non carborundum".
 
and I just got back from my workout, where I swam to Freak and Deco in perfect timing. That is now 5 of the Honeymoon songs that (without a waterproof player) I perfectly have in my head and in perfect
time can swim along to.

guyssss could the title honeymoon come from the deep relationship she had with barrie and then as soon as she cut him out of her life she started seeing fransisco. doing stuff like that is very dream like. having a dark relationship and then moving into something fun and sweet. i think she's singing about her time with barrie and her new life with fransisco and how it feels like some kind of honeymoon? 

more inspired than Lana?

off topic but reading this interview i remembered when she said that
 
about aka: 
The singer recently bought back the rights to the record, and says: "I'm re-releasing it, maybe in late summer."
 
 
where is it bi*ch

i think she should slowly rerecord some old songs with a new producer, put out a small EP(4 or 5 songs) in a year or two, while working on an album with new material for a few years(like 3 years). that way she is working, learning (going back and studying older work can bring new perspective, she can weave her new thoughts into her new work), making money, and whatever.

I agree it's interesting to see how her guitar playing changes. Disco, Axl Rose Husband, OSCYS, those have a very simple pattern, it sounds like she's just playing octaves to my ear (though I'd need to check). On Sirens, her guitar playing is more advanced, with a more complicated plucking pattern. She doesn't strum much, except on Move. I bet you she practiced long and hard for Sirens, because none of her laptop stuff is like that. You can even hear her stumbling during "Bad Disease" and slowing down her vocals momentarily to make up for it. I think she said in an interview that she just "sucked" at playing guitar, and that's why she stopped. I think it helped her come up with cool sounds, though. Like the chorus of Drive-By is I i I i I VII I (in the key of C, it'd be C Cm C Cm C Bb C). I've never heard that before. And there are probably other cool things like that scattered through Sirens that happened because of her limitations as a guitar player. She said she only learned 4 chords, but it can't literally be true (we can just look at every chord played in Sirens to make sure  ), although I'm certain it was a very limited number. I think she said F or B was hard? Anyway, she managed to take the few chords she could play and come up with interesting sounds. That's creativity!
 
Also her acappella stuff shows her experimenting a lot with harmonies, like Bentley. Carmen is actually pretty interesting as a demo because you've got parallel fourths or fifths above the melody line during the chorus, and then a picardy third at the very end. She never studied music theory, so she came up with that stuff on her own. Off the top of my head, Lady Gaga is the only other pop music artist that I've heard picardy thirds (So happy I could die) (don't complain that Lana isn't pop, I'm using pop as a catch-all compared to folk or "art" music).
 
I don't know how she writes songs nowadays. There's supposed to be a Cola laptop demo, but we've never gotten that. I don't think we have demos for any of the UV songs except maybe the "radio mix" of West Coast. We know a segment was cut from Cruel World. But if she doesn't use her guitar or create acappellas... how is she writing nowadays? Acappellas are what people who don't play an instrument use to write music (see: Michael Jackson's demo for Beat It). She's said she sits down to write at the same time every day "because your muse will know where to find you," but her process is still shrouded in mystery. If only interviewers asked about this stuff instead of the tired "feminism? depression? fashion?" questions.
 
Be honest with me... are you talking about James Franco? Or is there someone else we should know about?

come on Delicious is fuckin hilarious, that's genius in its most bare form.
 
I don't think I ever saw anyone talk about it, but her guitar playing style is actually interesting, espacially after the Sirens stuff. Songs from the pre-AKA/AKA era like Disco, Oh Say Can You See, Yayo, For K P2... Have an unusual yet simple and original style of chords, very Cat power-like (which makes sense since she's a fan), minimalistic but also dark and folky, which suited her music. Mostly fingerpicking 2 fingers chords, which she probably came up with naturally from the way she used to play major chords in the Sirens era. I wonder if she's still writing on the guitar tho, the Joshy & I leak was recorded around 2010-2011 and if she's the one playing in the recording, it's possible she's playing the bass ( ) or most likely a guitar in an alternate tuning, which would be a very interesting development in her guitar style. Can't wait for her to be 45 and do an accoustic tour, Graham4everything tea.
 
Also about her decline in quality as a writer, apart from the fact that she doesn't seek inspiration somewhere else etc... I think the biggest issue is the shift in her writing process. She's always improvised songs lyrics, but from the AKA/BTD interviews it's clear that she also spent a lot of time writing, correcting, assembling the lyrics and her ideas... Crafting the whole thing in maybe a more pragmatic fashion. Since UV I think she doesn't really talk about writing lyrics or working on songs that way, it seems like it's mostly improvisation/figuring out lyrics rather than maybe sitting down afterwards to work on them, examples being PWYC or HBTB. We can't really know, but now she just looks easily satisfied by her writing while she's spending months on the mixing, when obviously there's some issues on the songwriting.
 
She just needs to put new perspective in her work and also to change her environment, which is composed in parts, of people sucking her ass 24/7 (her composers like Rick, her team, some random "artists" that stick around her), people being really harmful to her work and her personally (I think HM is the first record where she doesn't have any of the plain stupid pressures she got from Interscope) and also her working with people that aren't suited for her craft/aren't that competent just because she likes them (her sister etc).

guyssss could the title honeymoon come from the deep relationship she had with barrie and then as soon as she cut him out of her life she started seeing fransisco. doing stuff like that is very dream like. having a dark relationship and then moving into something fun and sweet. i think she's singing about her time with barrie and her new life with fransisco and how it feels like some kind of honeymoon? 

praying for honeymoon: dark blue edition with a rerecorded serial killer, you can be the boss, us against the world, and whatever else(maybe life is beautiful)

praying for honeymoon: dark blue edition with a rerecorded serial killer, you can be the boss, us against the world, and whatever else(maybe life is beautiful)

I honestly wish that Music To Watch Boys to was actually the unreleased song Driving In Cars With Boys like most of us assumed it would be 

This pretty much sums up how I feel about the record. I feel like all of the songs are beautiful melodically and are rather interesting production-wise (excluding a few tracks), and she sounds so ethereal and angelic throughout most of the album, albeit, I don't feel any sort of connection this album like I have her previous works. It's not that it's emotionless, because I think at certain moments she sounds extremely emotional, but I just personally am struggling to relate or empathise with the album as a whole. Like, the songs are amazing, but I just don't feel much of anything when I listen to the album, like I do with songs like Bel Air, Video Games, Born to Die, Ultraviolence, West Coast, Shades of Cool, Gods & Monsters, and so on. Honeymoon is almost too relaxed.
 
Also, the lyrics are a huge step-down compared to all of her last albums, in my opinion. What happened to the elaborate descriptions of Off to the Races, or the poetic nature of songs like Bel Air and West Coast, or the intelligent lyricism behind songs like Gods & Monsters or Dark Paradise? I miss those days. Honeymoon has pretty mediocre lyrics compared to the past, and I think Lana even knows that herself, considering she mentioned in a couple of interviews this era that she wasn't very focused on the lyrics, but more on creating interesting soundscapes. Apart from the bridge and the "dreaming away your life" lines in the title track, the lyrics are overly-simplistic and rather cliche. God Knows I Tried, Swan Song and Honeymoon all suffer from Sad Girl Chorus syndrome, where the choruses contain some of the laziest lyrics in Lana's history. Even one of my favourite tracks on the album, Salvatore, has some odd lyrics that are overly quirky ("soft ice cream", "cacciatore" anyone?) 24 is perhaps the biggest lyrical disappointment on the album.
 
Overall, it's a lovely album that I really do admire, but I feel like it's even more of a mood record than Ultraviolence. It's a record I'm sure I'll put on to calm myself down or when I'm feeling relaxed, but it's not an album you can play whenever, if that makes sense. Still really appreciate that Lana is putting out new material so quickly and very beautiful music as well, but I can't deny the fact that in some ways, Lana did get worse this era.

I really wish Lana would stop covering Nina Simone tracks.She's tried her best covering TOW and DLMBM but it always feels lackluster somehow. IDK those type of songs don't suit her voice at all IMO. I'm also massively put off by the production on both of them aswell....

It's actually The Blackes Day, not The Darkest Day.