wilting daisy

maybe the surprise is there is no surprise... i mean look how surprised we all were! job well done boz

maybe the real surprise was the friends enemies we made along the way

you're a family man but... but... do you think about heaven? do you think about me?

ok be as rude as you want! is that what you want me to say? i don't care! you seem very adamant about your right to be a jerk so just do it and stop caring that some of us don't approve of that kind of behaviour

actually this is what i'm talking about as what not to do. we should be civil and respectful even about things we don't like. i know this is the internet so its asking a lot for people to be respectful but we should at least try. if someone is calling something a piece of ****, they know they're being rude. there are kinder ways of saying you don't like something. i find it especially disingenuous when people say blatantly rude things about lana or her songs or fans who like those songs then act surprised when thwy get pushback. but i know people will be rude to each other regardless of what i say so i'm just gonna leave it at that and just hope we can all learn to be nice and understanding of each other.

why don't we all agree that we all like different aspects of lana's music and that we don't have to all like the same things. some of us like her upbeat songs, some her slow songs. some like her long songs, others her short songs. some like her deep songs, some like her fun songs. some prefer her new music, some her old. and then some of us like all her music and some of us hate all her music. but its important we don't insult each other over different preferences or insult lana or the music. we can be civilized with our differing opinions. no "snoozefest" this, no "locals" that. at the end of the day, we're all lana fans and lana's gonna make whateverkind of music she wanta regardless of what any of us want from her.

we just keep on living. not much else to do

the album is coming out next week and you'll be able to listen to the upbeat songs as much as you want. if lana wanted us listening to an upbeat song today, she'd release one. we just need some patience. and i don't think she's too concerned about gaining new fans by releasing a song that doesn't represent her album sonically, thus leaving them disappointed with the album as a whole. i think she's at a "take me as i am or leave me" point in her career

it doesn't matter what anyone thinks is or isn't a good single choice. the aongs lana releases as singles aren't the ones she thinks will top the charts or bring in flocks of new fans. she releases the songs she wants to be known for by the general public. the people who don't listen to her albums will only know the songs she releases as singles so she seems most focused on the songs that will show off her writing skills and values and even the energy she wanta to put out into the world. like i love taylor swift but i find it disappointing that she usually releases the songs that will become major earworms as singles bc yeah she tops the charts and everyone gets her songs stuck in their heads but so many people don't know how great of a songwriter she is bc she doesn't release those types of songs as singles. but then lana releases stuff like hope is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have but i have it as singles despite songs like that clearly not being designed to top charts or bring in new fans. so the grants will be a good single choice in the way that it will be the type of song that lana wants to be known for and that's why she's releasing it as a single

idk about him actively lying but he does seem to frequently speak too soon so i wouldn't be surprised if something about the surprise changed recently after he spilled the beans

surprise is aka rerelease confirmed!!!

but if its a local release we'll all get the album at different times anyway so we're actually more able to have meltdowns altogether if its a worldwide release. but either way people will be freaking out all day so even if some of us aren't in here for the first few hours of the drop, i don't think we'll miss anything. if anything, its a leak that would prevent us all from having our meltdowns together bc some of us will still be waiting til release day so once the last batch of us hear it, most people will already be way over the initial reaction to it.

i feel like most people including it in their album rankings are gonna end up putting it in a completely different place after listening to it. either they'll like it more than they thought or will have hyped it so much they'll be disappointed. better not to jinx it and wait to hear it to rank it imo

when thw album comes out, i'm just gonna listen to it all day with my babies bc i'm boring. it'll be so hard not to listen to it when i get up in the middle of the night with them but i won't have enough time to listen to the whole album at that time plus it could be too stimulating for them so i'll have to wait til morning but at least i can listen to it on repeat for the whole day

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i wasn't saying protestantism is vaguely biblical or made up interpretations but that that's as religious as the pastor's interlude will get. i was trying to be reassuring that the interlude probably wouldn't be uncomfortably religious

literally any time i say anything on here people twist my words and try to start drama with me and i don't get it. i'm a nice person and i'm just trying to join in discussions about the album. i've never tried to hurt anybody on here. we're all lana fans here, i don't see why we have to needlessly be at each other's throats all the time...

i'm not trying to be shady and i'm not comparing religions! i already said i was just pointing out that the pastor's interlude wouldn't be implicitly catholic since he isn't catholic. this isn't anti-anything and it wasn't supposed to cause drama. i was trying to be genuinely informative to someone who asked a question.

i'm literally not. someone asked if the pastor's interlude was implicitly catholic so i said he wasn't catholic and explained the difference. and again, its not "comparing religions" since its literally all the same religion!

i'm not? i'm pointing out the difference between catholicism and protestantism (which are both apart of the same religion) while also defending catholicism.

doubtful. he's protestant not catholic and protestants usually hate catholics and think we're satanic pagans. it'll more likely be like a philosophical ted talk that might reference somwthing vaguely biblical with his own made up interpretation at most bc that's pretty much what protestantism is.

sometimes i wonder if i spend too much time reading this thread bc i already know so many random lyrics from the album and what lots of songs are about and like at least people who listened to the leaks got to learn those things firsthand but like i'm also so excited for the album that i can't help but read this thread all day everyday. i kind of wish nothing leaked so we could all be in a state of wonder still but it is what it is. at least the whole album hasn't leaked tho so everyone still has something to look forward to even if some of us are waiting on more than others.

did you know that there's a kitty in the tunnel under ocean blvd?

i have nightmares about this