HEARTCORE 18,971 Posted February 9, 2023 some of you guys are sooooo boring omg...not everything has to be so serious, it's a fun, meaningless pop record and that's okay! 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,616 Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, cj1995 said: I absolutely loved D&D, any news on the deluxe? besides her confirming it a while ago, nothing new. I guess it'll come out in a few months? it's apparently set to feature 6 outtakes from the sessions! iirc some insider (can't remember who) said the deluxe is real and the bonus tracks are really good. 2 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hundred Dollar Bill 21,809 Posted February 9, 2023 LAST NIGHT ON EARTH… OKAY LET ME STAN 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anonymcomenter 4,675 Posted February 10, 2023 Okay so I have listened to the album, and It has Its good points yet nothing revolucionary. I wasnt expecting that from Ava anyways, not in a bad way, she just makes big productions and pop music, without being pretencious. The thing is… other artist are like that (for example Bonnie Mckee or Katy Perry) yet you can tell they have a signature way of songwritting… Ava’s music lacks any king of personality (you can hear Bonnie Mckee in Naked or MNK in Ghost) and that makes her unrecognisable and bland… I don’t hate her, she definetly has the looks and vocals to hold stage presence and some of her songs are catchy as hell, she still has to find something unique to her, yet she already has 2 albums… I Don’t know, feels like she has been trying to replicate Sweet But Psycho And I think thats holding her from going forward. If she stepped out of that It would be more interesting (Salt was promising), maybe find another songwritting team or choose different demos, not always the same. Some artists dont write their own stuff yet you can recognize them like Christina, Britney, Miley, Selena,… Even in the image, the hair thing and all feels forced, same as Christina in the benning when she was being pushed by her label. Waiting for Ava to have more freedom maybe? I Don’t know if thats the case… The album is not bad by any means if you just wanna have something to bop to, I mostly listen to It in the gym but seems unidimensional (All songs sound alike with same estructure and tempo). For me the instant bangers are Ghost, In the Dark and Dancings Done. Weapons is the worst for me, cringey lyrics and awful start. I think the tracklist is a little too long for not having that much variety, I would cut it down to 11-12 songs maybe and It would be much better… but thats just my opinion. Don’t know yet if I like It more or less than Heaven & Hell still… the overuse of samples there throws me off, but sometimes is done Well like in My Brain & My Heart… Rumours, Salt And Naked are Great too. I despise So Am I though… ughh cant get over that 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,616 Posted February 10, 2023 I've been repeating the album very often despite being listening to it since it leaked in shitty quality. Whew, it's just so fun While my least favourite remains Get Outta My Heart (sample is tacky), I think my top 3 remains Turn Off the Lights, Diamonds & Dancefloors and Last Night on Earth 5 minutes ago, Anonymcomenter said: I despise So Am I though… ughh cant get over that This is so true. So Am I is the only song I really hate from her. Anything else she's released I either like or genuinely enjoy 1 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lana Del Dufrene 11,285 Posted February 15, 2023 spinning around by ava max is a gem 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hundred Dollar Bill 21,809 Posted February 15, 2023 I had to fix the tracklist... Diamonds & Dancefloors Sleepwalker Maybe You're the Problem Ghost Million Dollar Baby Hold Up (Wait A Minute) In the Dark Turn Off the Lights One Of Us Get Outta My Heart Cold As Ice Last Night On Earth Dancing's Done That's the way to do it! This is seriously a perfect pop album... I really hope there is a deluxe. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,616 Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Hundred Dollar Bill said: I had to fix the tracklist... Diamonds & Dancefloors Sleepwalker Maybe You're the Problem Ghost Million Dollar Baby Hold Up (Wait A Minute) In the Dark Turn Off the Lights One Of Us Get Outta My Heart Cold As Ice Last Night On Earth Dancing's Done That's the way to do it! This is seriously a perfect pop album... I really hope there is a deluxe. Not the Weapons erasure While the official tracklist does feel somewhat wonky at times, I tried rearranging it but it feels less enjoyable than the original. Well, she confirmed the deluxe more than once and iirc some insider said the deluxe actually exists and the 6 songs are really good. Hopefully it comes out soon! 1 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hundred Dollar Bill 21,809 Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Glitter Boy said: Not the Weapons erasure While the official tracklist does feel somewhat wonky at times, I tried rearranging it but it feels less enjoyable than the original. Well, she confirmed the deluxe more than once and iirc some insider said the deluxe actually exists and the 6 songs are really good. Hopefully it comes out soon! the weapons chorus lyric is that riff from uhh fall out boy or panic song… thanks for the memories…… it’s all i hear and i hate it otherwise a fine song in the verses. but tbh the subject matter doesn’t fit the album thematically anyway. Title track is the only thing that makes sense to open the album!! weapons for me is like the so am i of this album 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj1995 331 Posted February 17, 2023 Does anyone have a list of just H&H outtakes? I hope more of them leak 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,616 Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, cj1995 said: Does anyone have a list of just H&H outtakes? I hope more of them leak Whew, I'm not entirely sure. I'm completely certain these have been confirmed: Me, You & the Night (feat. MNEK) Wild Thing Emotions No Angel (potentially) iirc, all of the other leaks are from before the album was H&H per se. So, indirectly that would make Dolla Baby, Love Me Bad, My Love's Enough and the other similar demos not actual outtakes from H&H, but rather songs she was making when trying to figure out the album? idk. No Déjà Vu has also been said to be pre-H&H iirc (aka the Ava era 2016-17, along with Anyone but You, Try Again, Spinning Around, Come Home etc.) ooh and maybe the droplets from 2018-19 that didn't make it to H&H, aka Freaking Me Out Blood, Sweat & Tears On Somebody My Way Slippin' (feat. Gashi) - SoundCloud exclusive Not Your Barbie Girl - it ended up as a Japanese bonus track so idk I wonder if Silhouette and Stop the Talking are H&H outtakes or pre-H&H. 1 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloringbooks 14,115 Posted February 17, 2023 These are all Heaven & Hell era (2017-20). Anything I Want Dolla Baby Emotions (scrapped deluxe) Love Me Bad Me U & the Night (might've been MNEK ft. Ava) My Love's Enough Never Forget You* No Angel Silhouette Wild Thing 14 minutes ago, Glitter Boy said: Freaking Me Out Blood, Sweat & Tears On Somebody My Way Slippin' (feat. Gashi) - SoundCloud exclusive Not Your Barbie Girl - it ended up as a Japanese bonus track so idk These were also intended for the album, although I wouldn't consider NYBG as an outtake since it's an official bonus track as you said. BS&T was the original follow-up single to Sweet but Psycho, before it got delayed and replaced by So Am I 2 Quote i want my blood to rush, i'm crushing for your touch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaeManifestum 8,331 Posted February 17, 2023 I need a masterpost ❤️❤️ 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj1995 331 Posted February 18, 2023 Unpopular opinion: So Am I is a bop and I love it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FkaTwinks 3,135 Posted February 18, 2023 5 hours ago, cj1995 said: Unpopular opinion: So Am I is a bop and I love it. guillotine 2 Quote 12 hours ago, Tana Mongeau said: eating pure vagina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yosemite 23,788 Posted February 23, 2023 Guess I'll be seeing Ms. Ava live on May 18th And when I tell her to sing Emotions, then what? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,616 Posted February 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Yosemite said: Guess I'll be seeing Ms. Ava live on May 18th And when I tell her to sing Emotions, then what? Amazing! She's not coming to my country for now so I'll wait - but if you ask her to sing Emotions, when she sings it then what 1 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yosemite 23,788 Posted February 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Glitter Boy said: Amazing! She's not coming to my country for now so I'll wait - but if you ask her to sing Emotions, when she sings it then what Then she has to! I don’t make the rules… or do I? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj1995 331 Posted February 23, 2023 I need the deluxe so bad! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HEARTCORE 18,971 Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 9:50 PM, Coloringbooks said: These are all Heaven & Hell era (2017-20). Anything I Want Dolla Baby Emotions (scrapped deluxe) Love Me Bad Me U & the Night (might've been MNEK ft. Ava) My Love's Enough Never Forget You* No Angel Silhouette Wild Thing These were also intended for the album, although I wouldn't consider NYBG as an outtake since it's an official bonus track as you said. BS&T was the original follow-up single to Sweet but Psycho, before it got delayed and replaced by So Am I I thought Emotions was going to be from the new record, not the first one? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites