"Lust for Life" Album Recording/Writing Timeline and Creative Process Discussion

[That Venice Bitch 28,150]

On 6/24/2023 at 1:17 PM, cherryblossoms said:

Tbh this hurts more than the Patrick Warren situation with FC/YTH/YG 

Anyways thank you king/queen 

May I ask which version they were talking about? The YouTube channel doesn’t exist anymore.

[Ethel Cain 9,016]

18 minutes ago, That Venice Bitch said:

May I ask which version they were talking about? The YouTube channel doesn’t exist anymore.

the 3rd demo

 

the one that starts with "one foot in the door"

[That Venice Bitch 28,150]

4 minutes ago, Break Me Down said:

the 3rd demo

 

the one that starts with "one foot in the door"

I see. So does that mean it was made with stems? I don’t understand  

[Ethel Cain 9,016]

1 minute ago, That Venice Bitch said:

I see. So does that mean it was made with stems? I don’t understand  

 

[That Venice Bitch 28,150]

1 minute ago, Break Me Down said:

 

The response I didn’t know I needed

[Ethel Cain 9,016]

Just now, That Venice Bitch said:

The response I didn’t know I needed

lol but in all seriousness it was probably made from a different vocal take in one of the sessions, but i know nothing about that so im just guessing. @Unknown any intel?

[blackenedrussianpoetry 2,440]

1 hour ago, ivory almond said:

LFL if A$AP and Playboy didn't put their grimy hands on it:

They made it better! Eclectic singer songwriter hip hop witch lady

[cherryblossoms 10,420]

1 hour ago, That Venice Bitch said:

May I ask which version they were talking about? The YouTube channel doesn’t exist anymore.

yup it’s the one foot in the door one

 

[Embach 42,406]

@Unknown @111 When was Yosemite recorded?

[Embach 42,406]

About the Serene Queen Village Demo, what the hell does the "Village" mean there, is Village a producer or what?

Spoiler

 

[lanaismamom 11,544]

4 minutes ago, Embach said:

About the Serene Queen Village Demo, what the hell does the "Village" mean there, is Village a producer or what?

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its name of the studio the song was recorded at

[Embach 42,406]

On 6/30/2023 at 9:12 PM, Embach said:

Maybe TNBAR is about Jonathan Wilson, not Barrie 

This made me really think that maybe TNBAR is really about Jonathan Wilson and maybe she really scrapped some of the 2016 songs because of him.

 

I feel like he was the one who affected maybe some of Lana's decisions on LFL.

 

But maybe I'm reaching, as always 

[Thunder Revenant 20,943]

While I understand the process of changing and re-doing stuff, the way she turned BPBP into a meaningless Frankenstein track to forcefully squeeze in a Stevie Nicks feature feels extremely off.

[Embach 42,406]

14 minutes ago, Thunder Revenant said:

While I understand the process of changing and re-doing stuff, the way she turned BPBP into a meaningless Frankenstein track to forcefully squeeze in a Stevie Nicks feature feels extremely off.

 

While BPBP is not one of my favorites from LFL because I find the melody too dull and I understand that some people don't like Nicks voice but in my opinion the lyrical change showed Lana in much more mature side and I actually really love the lyrics because they're really beautiful. I understand why someone might not like the song but calling it meaningless is a reach...

[Thunder Revenant 20,943]

34 minutes ago, Embach said:

 

While BPBP is not one of my favorites from LFL because I find the melody too dull and I understand that some people don't like Nicks voice but in my opinion the lyrical change showed Lana in much more mature side and I actually really love the lyrics because they're really beautiful. I understand why someone might not like the song but calling it meaningless is a reach...

I think the lyrics are pretty forced amd it's obvious that this collab does not stem from an "organic" writing process between Nicks and Lana

[Unidentified Major Tom 2,136]

6 hours ago, Embach said:

This made me really think that maybe TNBAR is really about Jonathan Wilson and maybe she really scrapped some of the 2016 songs because of him.

 

I feel like he was the one who affected maybe some of Lana's decisions on LFL.

 

But maybe I'm reaching, as always 

 

That's what I think too.

 

My theory is that BAR is about Jonathan Wilson.

 

The lyrics are tough. She blames him for spending too much time producing music and not caring enough for her. The WM music video fits this description.

But the song is scraped. Maybe at his request, or maybe it was an on and off relationship and she just tried to save her couple.

 

In 2018-2019, as they were separated, she put things in perspective and decide not to be too mean to him and change lyrics to more positive ones.

 

But I am just speculating and maybe reaching too.

[lanaismamom 11,544]

7 hours ago, Embach said:

This made me really think that maybe TNBAR is really about Jonathan Wilson and maybe she really scrapped some of the 2016 songs because of him.

 

I feel like he was the one who affected maybe some of Lana's decisions on LFL.

 

But maybe I'm reaching, as always 

i think its about barrie only in terms that she later changed her mind about him (but i cant prove that) and so changed lyrics 
and im hearing about jonathan wilson the first time tbh😭

[lanaismamom 11,544]

 

[Embach 42,406]

@Unknown no pressure but do you know anything about Gucci?

[lemonadetan 5,086]

@Unknownno pressure but can you tell us what is the "i can see stars" song? tell us or this cat is going in the trash