Lana songs with poor mastering/engineering?

[American Whore 51,649]

46 minutes ago, Ultra Violet said:

I will never think HTD has good or interesting production. Even Jack telling us that he thought it made it interesting to play with sound levels doesn't make me like it. It just sounds like an error in the song and I hate it.

I also think Wildflower Wildfire is very scratchy from the second verse onwards. I love what they were going for but it badly needed some polishing because why does it have to hurt my ears?

i still want the version of HTD that we heard in that live

[motel six 4,165]

9 minutes ago, blackenedrussianpoetry said:

Shades of cool brotha

oh?

[UltraviolentJack 2,825]

i love chemtrails as an album but so many of the instruments sound “muted” to me, like they compressed the fuck out of each individual track and turned them all down (sorry if idk what i’m talking about) like the songs would be SO much better if they were allowed to “flow” more freely, like they feel like they’re being choked to me idk how to explain it.

 

[blackenedrussianpoetry 2,517]

5 minutes ago, White Hot 4Ever said:

See… if you hear SOC acapella when Lana almost ends the bridge ) You’re crumbling suddenly) and transition to the chorus again (You are … ) you can clearly tell it’s a different vocal take and it sounds messy… I fucking love SOC though. The leaker Honeymounz noticed this too actually! Here’s what I am talking bout:

also, on the song’s instrumental - you can hear random guitar clicks… that bothers me a little but i guess it was intentional. Here:

 

honestly, uv album mixing was messy… lana herself also said that. She had to mixed the album all over again bc of the messiness from dan’s rework…

[PoetryInMotion 16]

 

18 minutes ago, blackenedrussianpoetry said:

Shades of cool brotha

 

wat 

[Super Movie 51,840]

1 hour ago, Waimea Bay said:

The first three or so minutes of Wildflower is one of the best songs on Blue Banisters....and it would've been the best if they just used like normal drums.... It's so unnecessary it dosent add anything to the song...I don't see the vision....when I first listened to the album I thought my headphones were broken...and then I thought it was a production error that would get fixed....I Guess Not

This is my exact view of it. I think it's lyrically one of her strongest ever, and if it had just been a slightly more simplistic ballad like we hear initially, it would have been stronger. I'm always listening to music in headphones, so listening to those drums is an experience to say the least

[Dark Angel 203,396]

13 minutes ago, blackenedrussianpoetry said:

See… if you hear SOC acapella when Lana almost ends the bridge ) You’re crumbling suddenly) and transition to the chorus again (You are … ) you can clearly tell it’s a different vocal take and it sounds messy… I fucking love SOC though. The leaker Honeymounz noticed this too actually! Here’s what I am talking bout:

also, on the song’s instrumental - you can hear random guitar clicks… that bothers me a little but i guess it was intentional. Here:

 

honestly, uv album mixing was messy… lana herself also said that. She had to mixed the album all over again bc of the messiness from dan’s rework…

 

i've always noticed that the take after the bridge was different, but i like it, and it makes sense to me that after the explosive, amazing bridge, they would use a slightly different take, if that makes any sense at all? but i don't think UV has bad mixing/production at all, it really is her best album in that department, it's just simply wonderful, so atmospheric, so layered, so dark...

[Bluelake 2,908]

If her older music were to be remastered or released in  Dolby Atmos would the sound team have the ability to tweak details like voice filters if they felt the need to? Or is that part of the production that can’t be changed

 

I know nothing about music engineering so I’m very curious 

[Coriander 227]

I notice no one has mentioned any song from Honeymoon so far.

 

Interesting.

[Slutto 51]

1 hour ago, Lana Del Dufrene said:

Get free sounds kinda messy in the last chorus.

i always get jumpscared by the last few OUT OF THE BLACKs

[Dark Angel 203,396]

20 minutes ago, Coriander said:

I notice no one has mentioned any song from Honeymoon so far.

 

Interesting.

 

because it's objectively wrong

[PARADIXO 33,064]

This is such a great thread!!

 

As for what others said--

 

She does sound fried in American (the whole song could use some bass) but the song is just so good...

Wildflower Wildfire is one of her worst songs in terms of production, and I can't believe some people still want her to work with that Mike dude again. The outro in particular is horrible.

Fishtail is meant to sound muffled due to the swamp/humid imagery, but as a Jack apologizer I do have to admit the real demon is Laura. Which leads me to Kintsugi, one of the very best songs from Ocean Blvd, if only it wasn't such a terrible recording/mixing. The album actually features many of her best vocal recordings ever, but this one sticks out like a sore thumb.

 

Lust for Life is probably her worst mixing, mostly because of the vocals. And also Blue Banisters, although I do enjoy the roughness of some of the songs.

 

West Coast is her best ever in terms of engineering imo.

[Lindsay Lohan 10,760]

Fully regarding the mastering / engineering and not the production style itself, these are what I have issues with:

 

American - Like @Dark Angel said, the high pass filter they used on her vocals drives me INSANEEEE it's ear-wrenching... I still like the song I just can't listen to it

 

Every single Dan track on Ultraviolence is filled with glitches, clicks, mic leak, bad take injection, distortion, quality distortion, etc. I adore the album but it could have sounded 100x better if they had someone else engineering those tracks... there's an endless amount of errors on every track.

 

The Next Best American Record - Strange overly processed vocal mixing, same issue with American

 

California - Bad vocal mixing 

 

Tulsa Jesus Freak - This song has always sounded off to me, bad mixing from every angle, bad vocal mixing, guitar too loud it becomes distorted, very messy altogether

 

Dark But Just A Game - If Jack were to come out and say this was a demo they didn't touch after the first mix I'd believe it

 

Arcadia - HORRIBLE VOCAL MIXING, distorted vocals when it gets too loud, cracks through the song

 

Black Bathing Suit - A Mess. Her worst produced song ever. The obvious cuts from studio to voice memo are so awful it makes the song unlistenable to me, terrible drums, bad vocal mixing, disharmonious chorus, cracks, clicks, distortion, why was this released seriously... 

 

If you Lie Down With Me - Horrible vocal mixing, distortion, I do like this song though

 

Beautiful - Bad vocal mixing / distortion 

 

Violets For Roses - Worst vocal mixing ever, piano distortion, there's a lot that makes this song a production nightmare

 

Thunder - Some of the worst engineering of her career, instrumental leak from the demo, vocal and production distortion, bad vocal mixing, bad drums, bad instrumental, it's just not well done at all

 

Living Legend - Bad mixing and mastering, the leaked version sounds better

 

Cherry Blossom & Nectar - Bad mastering, leaked versions sound better.

 

Sweet Carolina - Terrible mastering work here, vocal distortion, bad vocal mixing.

 

Kintsugi - Vocal muffled to death

 

Fingertips - Vocal distortion, bad instrumental engineering

 

Margaret - Terrible vocal mixing, messy work on engineering throughout, muffled to death

 

Fishtail - MUFFLED TO DEATH

 

Peppers - MUFFLED TO DEATH and terrible mixing on chorus, bad vocal mixing, clicks, cracks, this is what you would expect an amateur soundcloud beat maker to create

 

Taco Truck - Vocals are so muffled its unlistenable, horrible vocal mixing, bad mastering almost ear piercing like American, sounds cheap honestly

 

Looking For America - Muffled, filled with clicks, bad mastering, obvious pitch correction in spots

 

I Can Fly - Messy engineering in the chorus, vocals slightly over processed 

[Nicolas377 161]

i thought my ears were crazy bc i always thinking about some weird mastered songs and never saw no one talking about. 

 

the bass in ride KILL my ears, maybe it's just me or not even a mastering issue but i hate hate hate how it sounds

and also there's to much noise in some tracks like heroin 

 

[Ultra Violet 19,026]

I also wish Dark But Just A Game's instrumental was made a bit stronger. I love it but its so quiet and nothing comes through well unless it's noise cancelling headphones or my better speaker at home.

[Party Favor 10,325]

tulsa jesus freak and dark but just a game. the instrumental just sounds way too compared to the vocals. the bass in dark but just a game barely makes any noise unless you want to blast your eardrums (and speakers) out with her vocals and the mixing on tulsa is just too....idk, sporadic? her vocals once again overpower the instrumental 

[motel six 4,165]

the way most of these are from chemtrails blue banisters and ocean blvd 

[Glitter Boy 16,608]

I'm glad we all can agree Born to Die and Honeymoon are her best engineered and mixed albums.

My top 3 remain Lust for Life, Chemtrails and Norman but some songs in them really slip away in terms of mixing  

 

[EstelsDream 742]

Arcadia... it always bothers me when she sings the highest notes and her voice starts distorting

[White Hot 4Ever 324]

4 minutes ago, Glitter Boy said:

I'm glad we all can agree Born to Die and Honeymoon are her best engineered and mixed albums.

My top 3 remain Lust for Life, Chemtrails and Norman but some songs in them really slip away in terms of mixing  

 

LFL is pretty well mixed imo, blue banisters is MUCH worse