[Poll] Renaming of Sirens/From The End/Quiet Now

[lflflflflflflflflflf 3,722]

Universally, I think we should agree on a new system so, here are our options!

 

OPTION 1, Keep new EPs and disassemble Sirens/or 3 x EP:

Orange = Old song from Sirens

 

From The End:

• Out With A Bang
• Peace
• Bad Disease
• For You
• Wait
• How Do You Know Me So Well?
• Try Tonight
• Dear Elliot
• Drive By
• Aviation

Quiet Now

• Blizzard
• You, Mister
• Junky Pride
• Move
• There's Nothing To Be Sorry About
• More Mountains
• In Wendy

Sirens (now as separate EP or as loose unreleased acoustic tracks):

• Next To Me
• A Star For Nick
• My Momma
• Pretty Baby
• Birds Of A Feather

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OPTION 2: Keep Sirens, disassemble and merge the new EPs:

Blue = from the new EPs

 

Sirens:

• Drive By
• Next To Me
• A Star For Nick
• My Momma
• Bad Disease
• Out With A Bang
• For Elliot
• Try Tonight
• Peace
• How Do You Know Me So Well?
• Pretty Baby
• Aviation
• Move
• Junky Pride
• Birds Of A Feather

From The End/Quiet Now:

• For You
• Wait
• Blizzard
• You, Mister
• There's Nothing To Be Sorry About
• More Mountains
• In Wendy

Discuss!

[lola 6,637]

I'm going to keep all albums/EPs seperate and not change track listings since I'm pretty sure they're all legit but I think I'm going to correct the Sirens track names.

[Rebel 3,176]

Was Sirens an actual album, or is it all in speculation? I like the idea of Option A.

[keanefar 1,007]

Wait nvm.

 

I'm going to keep all albums/EPs seperate and don't change track listings since I'm pretty sure they're all legit but I think I'm going to correct the Sirens track names.

 

I thought option two was this, so... this!

[lflflflflflflflflflf 3,722]

Keeping in mind that Sirens isn't even a real album, it's a fanmade compilation of unreleased songs that someone had at the time.

[teethclick 898]

Keeping in mind that Sirens isn't even a real album, it's a fanmade compilation of unreleased songs that they had at the time.

But wasn't there some guy with a CD or something, or am I going insane.

[lola 6,637]

Keeping in mind that Sirens isn't even a real album, it's a fanmade compilation of unreleased songs that they had at the time.

i don't think so http://teamhellions.com/2012/06/26/record-review-sirens-by-may-jailer/

[lflflflflflflflflflf 3,722]

i don't think so http://teamhellions.com/2012/06/26/record-review-sirens-by-may-jailer/

 

The article was written in June 2012 when everyone just treated it as an album without knowing if it was legit or not. From The End and Quiet Now (2005) definitely predate the idea of Sirens (2006?) anyway so I think it's where the tracks really belong since Lana would have released FTE and QN first.

 

Also, From The End and Quiet Now are registered as albums whereas Sirens isn't which I think implies that Sirens is fanmade. Either way, I actually don't know which tracklist setup I prefer :/

 

@@evilentity, your 2¢ on whether Sirens is real or not? I'm sure you've posted about it before.

[lola 6,637]

The article was written in June 2012 when everyone just treated it as an album without knowing if it was legit or not. From The End and Quiet Now (2005) definitely predate the idea of Sirens (2006?) anyway so I think it's where the tracks really belong since Lana would have released FTE and QN first.

 

Also, From The End and Quiet Now are registered as album whereas Sirens isn't which I think implies that Sirens is fanmade.

well he says he bought it in 2006 or 2007 here and he first mentioned it in january. it's not that unusual to re-use songs especially if she didn't release from the end and quiet now. or maybe she compiled some songs she had for some people who wanted to hear her music or something.

[silver starlet 1,376]

well if sirens is fanmade then I think I will go with option 1. im not sure though I'm bad at this

[Heaux 1,399]

cant we just leave Sirens as it is...

[lflflflflflflflflflf 3,722]

well he says he bought it in 2006 or 2007 here and he first mentioned it in january. it's not that unusual to re-use songs especially if she didn't release from the end and quiet now. or maybe she compiled some songs she had for some people who wanted to hear her music or something.

 

Oh right hmmm 

 

decisions!

[evilentity 13,341]

Where's the option for none of the above? I fucking hate both of these options. They're terrible. I'm mostly with @@lola on this: 

I'm going to keep all albums/EPs seperate and don't change track listings since I'm pretty sure they're all legit but I think I'm going to correct the Sirens track names.

Even though most of the existing titles are fanmade, I don't think we should completely discard the titles that everyone knows them by unless some decent receipts for these new titles being the real titles are put forward. (How do we know they're not made up?) However, I wouldn't be opposed to renaming the thread for "For K" to "For K/Drive By" and listing it as "For K" under Sirens and as "Drive By" under From the End in the "All Lyrics Thread".

 

But I see no reason to not treat these as three separate albums that just happen to have some overlap.

 

Keeping in mind that Sirens isn't even a real album, it's a fanmade compilation of unreleased songs that someone had at the time.

The idea of Sirens not being a real album is purely speculative. There's no evidence for this. There is pretty good provenance for it being real.

[Heaux 1,399]

Where's the option for none of the above? I fucking hate both of these options. They're terrible. I'm mostly with @@lola on this: 

Even though most of the existing titles are fanmade, I don't think we should completely discard the titles that everyone knows them by unless some decent receipts for these new titles being the real titles are put forward. (How do we know they're not made up?) I wouldn't be opposed to renaming the thread for this "For K/Drive By" and listing it as "For K" under Sirens and as "Drive By" under From the End in the "All Lyrics Thread".

 

But I see no reason to not treat these as three separate albums that just happen to have some overlap.

 

The idea of Sirens not being a real album is purely speculative. There's no evidence for this.

Daddy Evil speaking sense into the heathens

[drewby 9,245]

3 separate entities it is

 

What's to say the titles on Sirens weren't just renamed by her?

[Jord 3,481]

I'm gonna leave Sirens as it is and then have the EPs with just the songs that aren't from the album in them. Kind of pointless to change the song titles in my opinion, I could never start calling "Find My Own Way" as "Move" just because it leaked like that now...

[Baby V Alex 2,859]

I'm going to keep the three of them cause I agree with evit, those options are horrible. Also there wasn't a myspace blog from 2006 or something that a guy posted, naming Sirend one of his faves albums of that year?

[silver starlet 1,376]

idk i kind of don't want to do anything to sirens, cause we've had it for a long time and like i know it and I don't like drastically changing things around that i know so well. so yeah im torn on this someone please come up with a good option 

[Heaux 1,399]

can we not call them EPs too

[Trinity 1,224]

I agree with lola/evil, I think you should add that in as option 3.