Charli XCX

[Chorli Xbox 8,845]

21 hours ago, blameitonme said:

WHAT YOU WANT...I AIN’T GOT IT….

 

WHAT YOU WANT…I AIN’T GOT IT…

 

you just had to be there in 2021 when that snippet was played…a moment to live for

 

 

WOT YOU WANT LUV XX

[Heartmachine 9,989]

Oh now that’s what I call mother… 

 

 

[evalionisameme 13,889]

Not Chloe saying love on the nazi outfit 😭

Charli looks amazing though but I’m getting big pink Floyd vibes 

[Tana Mongeau 4,989]

Why the fuck was a baby named after her in eastenders

”she’s called charli”

”oh really after uncle charlie?”

”no. After charli xcx”

[AtomicMess 3,456]

11 minutes ago, evalionisameme said:

Not Chloe saying love on the nazi outfit 😭

Charli looks amazing though but I’m getting big pink Floyd vibes 

Okay glad I'm not the only one who had that thought in the back of their head on that promo photo. (Currently sensitized to the topic due to other drama happening on Twitter unrelated to pop-dom)

That being said, the shoot is a (nervous) serve.

[evalionisameme 13,889]

Just now, AtomicMess said:

Okay glad I'm not the only one who had that thought in the back of their head on that promo photo. (Currently sensitized to the topic due to other drama happening on Twitter unrelated to pop-dom)

That being said, the shoot is a (nervous) serve.

It wasn’t intentional?? 

I mean 

 

[Heartmachine 9,989]

25 minutes ago, Tana Mongeau said:

Why the fuck was a baby named after her in eastenders

”she’s called charli”

”oh really after uncle charlie?”

”no. After charli xcx”

  

[AtomicMess 3,456]

23 minutes ago, evalionisameme said:

Spoiler

 

It wasn’t intentional?? 

I mean 

 

 

 

 

 

So this debate is actually going on rn on kink twitter b/c some prominent porn people got outed for doing literal N*zi fetish play (symbols and armbands and all), but I digress....

It's hard, because 1940s Germany didn't and doesn't have a historical monopoly on trench coats, leather, or muir caps, but then you have photos like this, and the iconography and association is very hard to ignore - they definitely tainted it. It's doubly difficult because a lot of fashion brands and designers have their roots in and around that time period (Hugo Boss literally did design the outfits, Coco Chanel was a sympathizer....), so when those brands put out shit that calls back to anything around that era, it's....icky.

JW Anderson is a UK brand though, headed by an Irishman, and prior to starting the brand he worked for Loewe (Spanish house) - so it's not like it's a look coming from a person or place with direct historical ties to the era that I can see. Leather and muircaps are also associated with a lot of fetish stylings (Tom of Finland stands out), which came from reclamation and subversion of the aforementioned and was done by folks in an attempt to take the iconography and stylings of oppressors and make it their own. Those bits sort of pull me out and away a bit from criticizing that look harshly as squarely penning it as *that*.

 

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10 minutes ago, AtomicMess said:

 

 

So this debate is actually going on rn on kink twitter b/c some prominent porn people got outed for doing literal N*zi fetish play (symbols and armbands and all), but I digress....

It's hard, because 1940s Germany didn't and doesn't have a historical monopoly on trench coats, leather, or muir caps, but then you have photos like this, and the iconography and association is very hard to ignore - they definitely tainted it. It's doubly difficult because a lot of fashion brands and designers have their roots in and around that time period (Hugo Boss literally did design the outfits, Coco Chanel was a sympathizer....), so when those brands put out shit that calls back to anything around that era, it's....icky.

JW Anderson is a UK brand though, headed by an Irishman, and prior to starting the brand he worked for Loewe (Spanish house) - so it's not like it's a look coming from a person or place with direct historical ties to the era that I can see. Leather and muircaps are also associated with a lot of fetish stylings (Tom of Finland stands out), which came from reclamation and subversion of the aforementioned and was done by folks in an attempt to take the iconography and stylings of oppressors and make it their own. Those bits sort of pull me out and away a bit from criticizing that look harshly as squarely penning it as *that*.

 

I get what you mean entirely- I think If they were going to do leather men tribute though- there were probably better photos or ideas to showcase it 

[Adrift 4,813]

ik people like to jump to conclusions here but lets maybe be a little more careful before we come out with the nazi imagery speculation/accusations

 

 

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1 hour ago, AtomicMess said:

So this debate is actually going on rn on kink twitter b/c some prominent porn people got outed for doing literal N*zi fetish play (symbols and armbands and all), but I digress....

I shouldn't be surprised but WHAT………….…

[Chorli Xbox 8,845]

what the fuck is going on now 

[KillForLove 13,361]

3 hours ago, evalionisameme said:

Not Chloe saying love on the nazi outfit 😭

you guys are really so weird, jw anderson is literally known for doing a tom of finland print collection of course they're going to channel that style into their ready-to-wear.

[Veinsineon 76,904]

Another bored twitter twink induced controversy making ZERO noise  meanwhile charli is cooking up her best work 

[evalionisameme 13,889]

It’s not that srs, it’s just relatively amusing that nobody realised the resemblance. Either way the world isn’t burning down

[evalionisameme 13,889]

The Chloe reference was just in coincidental nature to her hitler salute 

[AtomicMess 3,456]

3 hours ago, KillForLove said:

you guys are really so weird, jw anderson is literally known for doing a tom of finland print collection of course they're going to channel that style into their ready-to-wear.

He is, and like I mentioned in my comment it kinda just goes full circle because ToF sourced his stylings in a subversive nature from police and military garb. I did do a little looking around after my post earlier though and I have a question mark on JW for a sweater from his collection that's a rather distinct shade of brown, with a police/military man printed right on it. It's....a choice, for sure. In the grand scheme of things I'd rather err on the side of cautious appreciation. I'm not calling for cancelling anyone, but at the same time, fashion has a history of flying too close to the sun, and I think it bears merit to point it out sometimes.
 

4 hours ago, Coloringbooks said:

I shouldn't be surprised but WHAT………….…

It's def not a LB conversation, but it's a whole debacle involving some prominent people in that community, and it's spurred conversations on what sort of attire and stylings are acceptable in the vein of fetishwear/Tom of Finland style, and where the line is on when it crosses over into 'dangerous resemblance' territory. It's why I personally looked at the JW campaign and had an eyebrow raise up, since it's in my current sphere of scrutiny.

That being said, fashion constantly recycles and redefines and repurposes silhouettes, shapes, materials, stylings - the meanings and history behind them often get mulched a bit whenever new subcultures and age groups pick it up.

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9 hours ago, AtomicMess said:

1940s Germany didn't and doesn't have a historical monopoly on trench coats, leather, or muir caps

 

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um anyways leak Barbie Girl!

[a wild one 2,235]

On 9/3/2023 at 7:58 PM, comeintomybedroom said:

A lot can be said about Baby Tate but this is not one of them..

im a bit late to this but yes it can. she dissed cupcakke (my mother) om twitter all because she didn't like billie eilish's debut (i also heard she made a diss song after that but idr)

 

i completely ignored her set when i went to see charli on tour, fuck ha!