graham4anything 2,859 Posted October 2, 2018 @@missdelreyxo @@slang "Books are in their boxesManuscripts are packedA dealer expressed interestSo paintings were dispatched The world before the warExquisite in your dreamsStill bore the angry childrenWho only saw extremesYou never saw it comingWhat was it they lacked?The civilised rejectedModernity attacked" ©NT &CL 1 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annedauphine 35,924 Posted October 2, 2018 Can you believe we live in a world where a tweet discussing (in a positive way) Lana's caption on Instagram makes 400k+ retweets. 2012 outsold. She's popular 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildMustang 14,760 Posted October 2, 2018 Can you believe we live in a world where a tweet discussing (in a positive way) Lana's caption on Instagram makes 400k+ retweets. 2012 outsold. She's popularQueen of relevance 1 Quote ...just you and me feeling the heat even when the sun goes down... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lustforlife 19,008 Posted October 2, 2018 We love a girl that dont nothing to be popular but is.. Almost 300k likes on her coment on Instagram.. Kanye publication have 500k 0 Quote Lust For Dead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry 5,951 Posted October 2, 2018 I can't help thinking that the "loss for the culture" statement is ego-stroking in that she regrets his being on the Trump side while being as influential as he is/was for "the culture". Anyway this isn't a political response, it's sort of an interpersonal response to his rant, centering on personality problems and that is a mistake. I mean Kanye is Kanye and that's that. It's perfectly alright for Kanye to wear a MAGA hat while he performs and his rant was off the show, so no one should really care. However, Lana needs to step up her fact game a bit. It is not Trump's fault that the "pussy-grabber" line got him elected; the American people did that. She needs to remind people of the raping of mother nature more (e.g. walking away from the Paris accords, when bad weather is on the news every night) and countless other issues (e.g. immigration concentration camps for kids). Also the most pertinent question: where the hell are the blue MADA hats (Make America Decent Again)? I agree with you, im Scottish so its nothing to do with me but I feel like nobody ever addresses politicians about things that are actually being done and matter. Especially Trump, people always bring up nonsense things like the wall, him mocking disabled people and just things he says but never things he actually has done that really have affected people. People should bring up things he has done and point out how they are wrong and shouldn't have been done rather than "he said grab them by the pussy" if they are going to come out against him. I also don't like how people come for certain politicians but not others just cause they are "on their side". Hillary Clinton is absolute scum as well, even worse than Trump but people kind of ignored her. Politics is madness to me though, I don't like any politicans and will never be voting for any of them. I think the people should vote on everything by ourselves, not appoint people we don't even know who are time and again proven to be power hungry and liars who if we knew personally we would never tolerate, they also do hundreds of things we would never do and only get to do it because we vote for them but are never held accountable. The USA also is the most fucked up, the amount of countries they have ruined especially just in recent decades that they should never have got involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. It's shameful but nothing ever gets done about it. Obama is basically seen as a cheery fun likable guy but he's as bad as anyone else, he's authorised the killings of hundreds of innocent people with drones in countries they shouldn't even be in - he would never do that to his own people. bomb random buildings and hospitals and schools because 1 guy he wants dead is in it. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted October 3, 2018 I agree with you, im Scottish so its nothing to do with me but I feel like nobody ever addresses politicians about things that are actually being done and matter. Especially Trump, people always bring up nonsense things like the wall, him mocking disabled people and just things he says but never things he actually has done that really have affected people. People should bring up things he has done and point out how they are wrong and shouldn't have been done rather than "he said grab them by the pussy" if they are going to come out against him. I also don't like how people come for certain politicians but not others just cause they are "on their side". Hillary Clinton is absolute scum as well, even worse than Trump but people kind of ignored her. Politics is madness to me though, I don't like any politicans and will never be voting for any of them. I think the people should vote on everything by ourselves, not appoint people we don't even know who are time and again proven to be power hungry and liars who if we knew personally we would never tolerate, they also do hundreds of things we would never do and only get to do it because we vote for them but are never held accountable. The USA also is the most fucked up, the amount of countries they have ruined especially just in recent decades that they should never have got involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. It's shameful but nothing ever gets done about it. Obama is basically seen as a cheery fun likable guy but he's as bad as anyone else, he's authorised the killings of hundreds of innocent people with drones in countries they shouldn't even be in - he would never do that to his own people. bomb random buildings and hospitals and schools because 1 guy he wants dead is in it. One thing is correct in that it has NOTHING to do with you as this issue is a USA one, that being the war against women, and as you don't seem by your own words like any politician, and you seem to seethe with hate to America and all so it really is none of your business. Obvious hatred for women and women's rights as trump& his Nazi & Neo-Nazi associates are doing everything they can to force women into slavery in the US and to have no recourse. trump & the boys are arsonists( as are the other ultra rightwing white nationalists that cropped up and are propped up by Putin and the boys (in Russia there are no rights for women, for Jews, for Gays, for anyone except Putin & Putin gets rid of all people against anyone. Thankfully Trudeau in Canada stood up to trump and showed trump for the fool he is. No wonder the entire UN laughed at trump. Not to mention today a big exposing of how his father evaded millions in taxes and how much money was passed along to the abject failure that trump is. All a bunch of mobsters. (but I guess Al Capone and more current mobsters must have had fans too.) Thank all who are against trump, just as some tried to warn people about Hitler, to no avail of course. But the fight is also women vs. men, as trump is 100% anti-women. May the best woman win. after all, without a woman, there would be no man. that is my opinion. (as is the opinion that 3000 plus people died in Puerto Rico, there is still no electricity in parts, major weather changes are happening world wide, trump don't give two shits about any of that, mocked the people, threw paper towels at them, is responsible for more deaths, and devestation that the supposed one person they blame on Hillary (which probably was a friendly flag done in tandem with a protest, where it seemed the slimeball Mitt Romney knew it would happen and complained prior to the event itself. Ever wonder how???) trump isn't even in control, he ceded all his power to the VP(and didn't even want Pence the Insignificant, but his billionaire backers and to add-for Lana and the others to remain silent while these fundamentalist Christian Men want to roll back theworld to a time that was horrible for 85% of today's demographics would be a crime. (now about that Brexit sham vote (aka Nigel/Boris/and Steve Bannon) 1 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slang 1,532 Posted October 3, 2018 I agree with you, im Scottish so its nothing to do with me but I feel like nobody ever addresses politicians about things that are actually being done and matter. Especially Trump, people always bring up nonsense things like the wall, him mocking disabled people and just things he says but never things he actually has done that really have affected people. People should bring up things he has done and point out how they are wrong and shouldn't have been done rather than "he said grab them by the pussy" if they are going to come out against him. I also don't like how people come for certain politicians but not others just cause they are "on their side". Hillary Clinton is absolute scum as well, even worse than Trump but people kind of ignored her. Politics is madness to me though, I don't like any politicans and will never be voting for any of them. I think the people should vote on everything by ourselves, not appoint people we don't even know who are time and again proven to be power hungry and liars who if we knew personally we would never tolerate, they also do hundreds of things we would never do and only get to do it because we vote for them but are never held accountable. The USA also is the most fucked up, the amount of countries they have ruined especially just in recent decades that they should never have got involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. It's shameful but nothing ever gets done about it. Obama is basically seen as a cheery fun likable guy but he's as bad as anyone else, he's authorised the killings of hundreds of innocent people with drones in countries they shouldn't even be in - he would never do that to his own people. bomb random buildings and hospitals and schools because 1 guy he wants dead is in it. Civilization is an infrastructure for people living peaceably and sharing and increasing resources (which implies a fair amount of socialism, even if you happen to be a western capitalist country). I think civilization mostly works. Also, while I cannot guarantee someone going back in time and "fixing it" so Hilary would have won in 2016 *wouldn't* have immediately caused WWIII (like that Twilight Zone episode where Kennedy's assassination was prevented), I do not think her track record for being "scum" is nearly as visible and/or self-evident as Trump's, whose record is uniformly distributed *before* and after his election (imo, but this is not a forum for discussing that). Kanye's personality isn't the problem; the problems are the problems. So saying that Trump raised Kanye's taxes (by making his state and property taxes essentially non-deductable for him) might have penetrated his dim "I am a god" skull a bit more; whereas saying he's a narcissist and needs an intervention just empowers him ("being bipolar is his superpower", afterall). 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I Come In Peace 3,478 Posted October 3, 2018 Tbh before Lana got into politics I thought she'd release a song about Trump being her daddy 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry 5,951 Posted October 3, 2018 Civilization is an infrastructure for people living peaceably and sharing and increasing resources (which implies a fair amount of socialism, even if you happen to be a western capitalist country). I think civilization mostly works. Also, while I cannot guarantee someone going back in time and "fixing it" so Hilary would have won in 2016 *wouldn't* have immediately caused WWIII (like that Twilight Zone episode where Kennedy's assassination was prevented), I do not think her track record for being "scum" is nearly as visible and/or self-evident as Trump's, whose record is uniformly distributed *before* and after his election (imo, but this is not a forum for discussing that). Kanye's personality isn't the problem; the problems are the problems. So saying that Trump raised Kanye's taxes (by making his state and property taxes essentially non-deductable for him) might have penetrated his dim "I am a god" skull a bit more; whereas saying he's a narcissist and needs an intervention just empowers him ("being bipolar is his superpower", afterall). Clinton's done far worse stuff than Trump tbh, that we know of anyway. Hillary Clinton as a Lawyer got a guy off with raping like an 9 year old girl even though she knew he was guilty of it. You can listen to her talking about it on Youtube from a phone call she made, I think she even laughs at how she got him away with it. I also don't like how she dealt with Gaddafi after America got him caught and murdered, im pretty sure again there is video of her laughing while watching him being tortured and killed saying "we came, we saw, he died". A lot of people don't like Gaddafi but in reality he was one of the smartest and best leaders Africa ever had and getting him killed off fucked Libya and Africa as a whole, it was a disgrace. Just to say also I don't like Trump at all, nothing about him incase people think i've got any interest in him either. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valerie 1,379 Posted October 3, 2018 Clinton's done far worse stuff than Trump tbh, that we know of anyway. Hillary Clinton as a Lawyer got a guy off with raping like an 9 year old girl even though she knew he was guilty of it. You can listen to her talking about it on Youtube from a phone call she made, I think she even laughs at how she got him away with it. This. The Clintons have committed far worse atrocities. Trump is a saint compared to Hillary. She deserves to be jailed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amadeus 11,334 Posted October 3, 2018 This. The Clintons have committed far worse atrocities. Trump is a saint compared to Hillary. She deserves to be jailed don't u ever disrespect monicker like this again 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valerie 1,379 Posted October 3, 2018 don't u ever disrespect monicker like this again monicker is fine 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry 5,951 Posted October 3, 2018 This. The Clintons have committed far worse atrocities. Trump is a saint compared to Hillary. She deserves to be jailed Trump is also still up there with the worst of them though as well, along with Bush, Obama and all the rest. They are liars and are destroying countries and people without a care and pretending it's all good. To me none of them do anything right to the benefit of the people which is what they are supposed to do. They do things to the benefit of the rich, so they can keep them rich and become rich themselves and thats how it's always been done and always will be done as thats how that things need to be done in the way everything is set up. For things to run as they do there needs to be Billionaries hoarding money, so that creates people at the other end with nothing and those people at the bottom need to be used like slaves so that people in the middle can have phones and laptops etc to keep them happy and working to keep themselves off the bottom. To me it doesn't need to be like that, I think we could all live fairly equally to each other but it will never happen. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serene Queen 4,786 Posted October 3, 2018 Can we **not** be political 1 Quote Hell, I Suppose if You Stick Around Long Enough, They Have to Say Something Nice About You Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delreyfreak 5,342 Posted October 3, 2018 Queen of psychology! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missdelreyxo 3,786 Posted October 3, 2018 Tbh before Lana got into politics I thought she'd release a song about Trump being her daddy yeah considering harvey was in the sky with diamonds and it made her so crazy all politicians are EVILLLLLLLL 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missdelreyxo 3,786 Posted October 3, 2018 We love a girl that dont nothing to be popular but is.. Almost 300k likes on her coment on Instagram.. Kanye publication have 500k I wish she got that much attention for her music and she can actually chart for once 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graham4anything 2,859 Posted October 3, 2018 Clinton's done far worse stuff than Trump tbh, that we know of anyway. Hillary Clinton as a Lawyer got a guy off with raping like an 9 year old girl even though she knew he was guilty of it. You can listen to her talking about it on Youtube from a phone call she made, I think she even laughs at how she got him away with it. I also don't like how she dealt with Gaddafi after America got him caught and murdered, im pretty sure again there is video of her laughing while watching him being tortured and killed saying "we came, we saw, he died". A lot of people don't like Gaddafi but in reality he was one of the smartest and best leaders Africa ever had and getting him killed off fucked Libya and Africa as a whole, it was a disgrace. Just to say also I don't like Trump at all, nothing about him incase people think i've got any interest in him either. Ever hear of Pan Am Flight 103 which terrorist style Gaddafi took full blame for? Good riddance to rubbish when I heard he died. I suppose some also would blame women for the death of Saddam and his kids Uday and Qusay too??? After all, they were just kids having fun Are you aware that Republican Kavanaugh was a dirty operative whowas a major part of the impeachment of Clinton's (as Republican prosecutor Ken Starr has now said, there was nothing there until the blue dress showed up). Something has always bothered me, and that is, she came from good stock. Bullshit that she kept the dress dirty. More likely some dna was found and planted on the dress (cue in that republican operative woman who pretended to be her friend and used her.) (Bush41 always said never pee or cum in the shower because who knows who else can be in the house that can then use it.) And so Bill got impeached for a consentual BJ (btw- BJ's are illegal in Pence's world. That is a form of abortion, isn't it? After all, sperm is for having babies only, and trump/pence want to outlaw ALL forms of any other type (just like those groups trump hates in other backward nations where women have no rights, and women are stoned to death if the husband is caught.) Again, Ken Starr (Republican operative/and the Impeach Bill judge said there was NOTHING to prosecute or impeach. . So interesting though that you blame a spouse for a husbands cheating. Do you also blame Kavanaugh's wife and kids for the atrocities he has done? Is Putin married? If so do you blame his wife? Do you blame Melonia for Donald? (after all he has cheated 100s of times (regardless that he can't get it up, and neither it seems can Kavanaugh. And why is that if one is white, like Kavanaugh he is called a kid, when an actual kid Mr. Trayvon Martin was brutally assassinated for being black and talking to his girl friend on the phone? btw- President Obama is today's Abe Lincoln and Dr King. (But then there were actually people who hated all 3 of them) here is the info on Gaddafi the terrorist leader & Flight 103 bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103 I wish she got that much attention for her music and she can actually chart for once Even though quite possibly Venice Bitch might be the #1 song of all time of anyone (it is that great), do you really think America will allow a woman to use the word Bitch, and the word FUCK in the lyrics in America on whatever passes for what mainstream radio plays 0 Quote Lana is our modern day Edith Piaf. Totally unique. a mixture of Brian WIlson Roy Orbison, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Elton & Bernie. Born to Die/Paradise is comparable to Elton's Captain Fantastic. All the records need to be listened whole. Waiting for a box set vinyl of all 400 songs not on any lp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missdelreyxo 3,786 Posted October 3, 2018 Ever hear of Pan Am Flight 103 which terrorist style Gaddafi took full blame for? Good riddance to rubbish when I heard he died. I suppose some also would blame women for the death of Saddam and his kids Uday and Qusay too??? After all, they were just kids having fun Are you aware that Republican Kavanaugh was a dirty operative whowas a major part of the impeachment of Clinton's (as Republican prosecutor Ken Starr has now said, there was nothing there until the blue dress showed up). Something has always bothered me, and that is, she came from good stock. Bullshit that she kept the dress dirty. More likely some dna was found and planted on the dress (cue in that republican operative woman who pretended to be her friend and used her.) (Bush41 always said never pee or cum in the shower because who knows who else can be in the house that can then use it.) And so Bill got impeached for a consentual BJ (btw- BJ's are illegal in Pence's world. That is a form of abortion, isn't it? After all, sperm is for having babies only, and trump/pence want to outlaw ALL forms of any other type (just like those groups trump hates in other backward nations where women have no rights, and women are stoned to death if the husband is caught.) Again, Ken Starr (Republican operative/and the Impeach Bill judge said there was NOTHING to prosecute or impeach. . So interesting though that you blame a spouse for a husbands cheating. Do you also blame Kavanaugh's wife and kids for the atrocities he has done? Is Putin married? If so do you blame his wife? Do you blame Melonia for Donald? (after all he has cheated 100s of times (regardless that he can't get it up, and neither it seems can Kavanaugh. And why is that if one is white, like Kavanaugh he is called a kid, when an actual kid Mr. Trayvon Martin was brutally assassinated for being black and talking to his girl friend on the phone? btw- President Obama is today's Abe Lincoln and Dr King. (But then there were actually people who hated all 3 of them) here is the info on Gaddafi the terrorist leader & Flight 103 bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103 Even though quite possibly Venice Bitch might be the #1 song of all time of anyone (it is that great), do you really think America will allow a woman to use the word Bitch, and the word FUCK in the lyrics in America on whatever passes for what mainstream radio plays Graham we all know venice bitch is THAT song but im just saying she gets more attention for this over the music which is sad 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slang 1,532 Posted October 3, 2018 ... To me none of them do anything right to the benefit of the people which is what they are supposed to do. They do things to the benefit of the rich, so they can keep them rich and become rich themselves and thats how it's always been done and always will be done as thats how that things need to be done in the way everything is set up. ... Well if civilization is the brawn, then politics is supposed to be the brain. If the quoted part of your post is in fact how you could view evil politics vs. less evil (i.e., less evil politics are those that works against what you're describing), then Clinton and Trump can be assessed in those terms. I won't argue it, but I think people could argue that Hilary was your man in terms of closing the rich/poor gap. As far as weighting her particular transgressions go, that's up to you, but what you described did not terrifically offend me. In fact, it made her seem more like she was the typical political man, at least with regard to lawyering and deposing govt-labeled "tyrants". She could have been a better candidate if she ran with Saunders, but if the country is too scared to elect a woman, a woman and a socialist doesn't seem very likely, imo (although many do hypothesize she would have won with Bernie as VP). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites