Marius 12,802 Posted May 25, 2020 https://twitter.com/theajayii/status/1264974473851215873?s=21 Maybe this time she can stand by her words and won’t delete it because of some stans pressure 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertimus 9,547 Posted May 25, 2020 LDR doesn't seem to understand that a lot of her critics, and critics, period, today don't necessarily want to see 'female empowerment,' but their specific version and vision of what 'female empowerment' is, and while NFR moved closer to their version of it, they still see her as not embodying their feminist ideology completely enough. And they do see her as easily goaded and weak, and so attack, because they're bullies. Personally, the 'fuck off' at the end made her look immature and weak, in my opinion, all over again, and practically canceled out the entire point. Also, people who claim to be feminists, especially female feminists, should support all women, including female non-feminists and even women who are anti-feminist, at least as fellow women if not ideologically. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovetati 15,297 Posted May 25, 2020 https://twitter.com/theajayii/status/1264974473851215873?s=21 Maybe this time she can stand by her words and won’t delete it because of some stans pressure She better not delete. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturalbornloser 434 Posted May 25, 2020 She just messesp up again by naming Twigs in her new statement, like, she was aware of the problem of namedropping but she did it anyway, she's got valid points tho 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtown Baby Doll 5,310 Posted May 25, 2020 Of the 8 years I’ve been stanning her, that video is without a doubt the most vulnerable I’ve ever seen her. No persona, no styling, no makeup, just 6 minutes of straight up realness. I hate the circumstances that led to it, but I’m so grateful for that post and I hope she gives us more of that in the future. 19 Quote ♡ ♡ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
softcore babyface 4,376 Posted May 25, 2020 Lana name drop the alt singers girl you’re already in hot water baby I wanna know 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poetic jess 2,340 Posted May 25, 2020 So does a persons technical ability determine whether they should be slut shamed for pole dancing? The hypocrisy is real. You’re now trying to say Lana’s comments about Twigs weren’t justified because Twigs is a trained dancer - thus implying that the fact Lana was deemed a whore for doing it is somewhat justifiable? These are the same people that will say sex work and pole dancing shouldn’t be slut shamed and it should be seen as an empowering thing - but obviously only when the person that does it is someone you support right? The point Lana has been making is extremely clear and it’s about the way people perceive her music/art compared to how her contemporaries art is viewed by FEMINIST WRITERS/FEMALE ALT SINGERS. Obviously each of these artists face their own criticisms but what Lana is talking about is how their songs about feeling sexually empowered are received differently to how Lana’s are by female writers. It’s really not that hard to understand. I really don’t understand how you can make this about race when Lana has not criticised any of the music of the artists she mentioned and rather how it is perceived by the media. Lana has been making songs about the same topics (sex, taking off clothes and cheating) for longer than most of the artists she mentioned in that list. The only issue I can understand people taking issue with is the fact Lana seemed to not have an appreciation for the plight they go through as WOC, and maybe that is a sidenote she should have mentioned, but she was talking about one specific aspect of how their music is perceived compared to hers, not about the criticism they face as a whole. I seriously can’t recall Lana being slut-shamed for her performance in Tropico. Only the cultural appropriation accusations come to mind. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArtDecoDelRey 15,283 Posted May 25, 2020 twigs is trending on twitter, could she not have left that one 5 second comment out of the video? god damn lana whyyyyy 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PARADIXO 32,931 Posted May 25, 2020 Of the 8 years I’ve been stanning her, that video is without a doubt the most vulnerable I’ve ever seen her. No persona, no styling, no makeup, just 6 minutes of straight up realness. I hate the circumstances that led to it, but I’m so grateful for that post and I hope she gives us more of that in the future. This. I'm extremely proud of her and this only proves why I'm still here for her. I'm so sad, though, that Ariana got it the wrong way. Ariana is another vulnerable and very emotional artist, I legit thought she would relate to her post. Twigs is another "fragile" woman, emotionally speaking. I hope she takes this the right way. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mer 61,594 Posted May 25, 2020 did anyone catch Megan Fox's apparent diss...? 0 Quote ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ 𓊔 I took the miracle move on drug 𓊔 ⚕️ The effects were temporary ⚕️ ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mafiosa 1,089 Posted May 25, 2020 To me, her point is pretty clear: when female artists sing about their sexuality in a way that's deemed positive or empowering, critics love it. But the moment Lana tries to weave a narrative where she makes mistakes sexually/romantically, and surrenders power to a man (who perhaps doesn't treat her well), she's crucified for it. She wants everyone to be able to sing about their experiences without being told they're "glamorizing abuse." That's all she's saying. It's not an artist's job to be an example. exactly. she needs you on her team lmao this is so much more to-the-point than this 3-day mess she's created! did anyone catch Megan Fox's apparent diss...? it was hardly a diss, she said something to the effect of "i understand where you are coming from, i've been there, but i would never put down other women like that, we're all in this together" etc. etc. etc. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatTimes 140 Posted May 25, 2020 I can see where the anger is coming from. The hate she received in the beginning was truly bizarre. People investigating her past, hating her for her appearance, calling her stupid, fake blablabla. And writing thinkpieces about how morally superior they are to this weird bimbo. And this didn’t come from conservative middle age folk but from cool indie kids. They really hated her and wanted her destroyed before she even got started Maybe this is common with new artists and I don’t notice because I only stan Lana, but i can’t think of a similar case The comparison to the other women made little sense, but her not being able to take “constructive criticism” (dislike that phrase, she is not our naughty student) might be because she gets frustrated when people think she’s had it easy 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mer 61,594 Posted May 25, 2020 it was hardly a diss, she said something to the effect of "i understand where you are coming from, i've been there, but i would never put down other women like that, we're all in this together" etc. etc. etc. i found it kinda ironic tbh...if she truly believes "we're all in this together" she shouldn't have said anything. Also I think she missed Lana's point entirely... 1 Quote ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ 𓊔 I took the miracle move on drug 𓊔 ⚕️ The effects were temporary ⚕️ ⊹ (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅) ⊹ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mafiosa 1,089 Posted May 25, 2020 i found it kinda ironic tbh...if she truly believes "we're all in this together" she shouldn't have said anything. Also I think she missed Lana's point entirely... yeah she clearly misunderstood what lana was trying to say. megan's been vilified in the media and i think she identified with that aspect of her statement. but obviously didn't read it closely or critically. i doubt she's too familiar with lana's art and career anyways. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marius 12,802 Posted May 25, 2020 did anyone catch Megan Fox's apparent diss...? Yes but idgaf. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amadeus 11,333 Posted May 25, 2020 I'm so sad, though, that Ariana got it the wrong way. Ariana is another vulnerable and very emotional artist, I legit thought she would relate to her post. there is still no indication Lana and Ari had any sort of fallout or otherwise someone please let me know as i've said here before 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PARADIXO 32,931 Posted May 25, 2020 there is still no indication Lana and Ari had any sort of fallout or otherwise someone please let me know as i've said here before I say this because Lana said (something along the lines of...) she lost her relationship with a few of the women she mentioned because of her post. My first and only thought was Ariana. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
partymonster 4,722 Posted May 25, 2020 there is still no indication Lana and Ari had any sort of fallout or otherwise someone please let me know as i've said here before In her post a couple of days ago she mentioned that Doja & Ariana gave her “feedback” and in today’s video she said something about how they disagreed with her point? Wait i can’t really remember but it was something along those lines 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArtDecoDelRey 15,283 Posted May 25, 2020 did anyone catch Megan Fox's apparent diss...? it was kind of a diss, but it also wasn't. i agree with some of what she said 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mafiosa 1,089 Posted May 25, 2020 idc if lana never thinks about ar*ana again. they come from different universes. her whole career and aesthetic is founded upon looking and acting like a little girl. she's a recording artist - her abilities begin and end there. with the help of heavy vocal editing 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites