Yes To Heaven 3,707 Posted May 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, One with the Gods said: Songs like Bubble Boy and Bike Ride were obligated in a troll message what are then the real songs in this list: Valerie Sophomore Headphones Zippers Memories Croquet 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,558 Posted May 27, 2021 We're so used to fake titles, but also to trolls and scams. If I'm not mistaken, I think I read somewhere long ago that I Scream and Jump Rope were thought to be fake 2 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desert lamp 1,789 Posted May 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Yes To Heaven said: what are then the real songs in this list: Valerie Sophomore Headphones Zippers Memories Croquet I wouldn't know. I mean these all are could be totally real still, I just have doubts so take everything I say with a grain of salt 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yes To Heaven 3,707 Posted May 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Glitter Boy said: We're so used to fake titles, but also to trolls and scams. If I'm not mistaken, I think I read somewhere long ago that I Scream and Jump Rope were thought to be fake no jr and i scream were always real as they were registered since 2014/2015 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salem 872 Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Yellow said: I think songs like Arts & Crafts and Unhappy Meal, Maybe even Schizo and Trophy Wife were used on other album concepts like Toy Chest and Animal Crackers. Unhappy Meal isn't really a crybaby track, but it's not a k-12 track either. Crybaby had already released when it was recorded. If anything, I'd consider it her hiatus era like Piggyback. Also, a lot of k-12 was recorded at the same time as crybaby tracks and especially extra clutter tracks so recording dates don't really mean much. (Examples: Strawberry Shortcake & Class Fight's original version being recorded around the same time as Gingerbread Man & Seesaw) Then we have examples like Show & Tell and Notebook being written around the same time. Most of these tracks we've been placing with Crybaby honestly could've been K-12 scraps, like Arts & Crafts which was recorded far closer to Strawberry Shortcake than anything on crybaby. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
untilsunrise 526 Posted May 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Salem said: Most of these tracks we've been placing with Crybaby honestly could've been K-12 scraps, like Arts & Crafts which was recorded far closer to Strawberry Shortcake than anything on crybaby. wait so should I put Arts & Crafts with my K-12 era outtakes instead of my CB ones??? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanaismamom 11,544 Posted May 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Salem said: Unhappy Meal isn't really a crybaby track it was recorded in 2014 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TayIor 225 Posted May 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, untilsunrise said: wait so should I put Arts & Crafts with my K-12 era outtakes instead of my CB ones??? no. Arts & Crafts is crybaby its p much thought to be teddy bears prequel 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salem 872 Posted May 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, lanaismamom said: it was recorded in 2014 wiki says 2015, placing it with k-12 4 minutes ago, untilsunrise said: wait so should I put Arts & Crafts with my K-12 era outtakes instead of my CB ones??? You can put it in either, but honestly a lot of crybaby outtakes can go in either since they were recorded around the same time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitter Boy 16,558 Posted May 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, untilsunrise said: wait so should I put Arts & Crafts with my K-12 era outtakes instead of my CB ones??? As far as I knew, Arts & Crafts is from the CB sessions.Recorded in August 2014. 2 minutes ago, Salem said: wiki says 2015, placing it with k-12 You can put it in either, but honestly a lot of crybaby outtakes can go in either since they were recorded around the same time. What wiki are you reading? It says 2014 and I think it was confirmed. In the other hand, Wiki is not that reliable as it comes from what users put on it. Not every single thing from the wiki is real. 6 Quote "I'm wild, I'm free, no man can handle me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanaismamom 11,544 Posted May 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Salem said: wiki says 2015, placing it with k-12 You can put it in either, but honestly a lot of crybaby outtakes can go in either since they were recorded around the same time. whatssss.... what a mess like Mercury confirmed it was in 2014 and Arts and Crafts was recorded 2014 august 3d like....? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoochieSwirlC 2,065 Posted May 27, 2021 For the last time.. Unhappy Meal most likely was recorded during the Cry Baby sessions. If anyone says otherwise it’s literally just pure speculation Also do not trust that wiki for information when it comes to certain things either. There was false information put there plenty of times by her fans for things that are unconfirmed 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
untilsunrise 526 Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Mermaid Hotel said: For the last time.. Unhappy Meal most likely was recorded during the Cry Baby sessions. If anyone says otherwise it’s literally just pure speculation Also do not trust that wiki for information when it comes to certain things either. There was false information put there plenty of times by her fans for things that are unconfirmed yeah, the whole "unhappy meal was part of early K-12" started from speculations that turned into rumors people spread as facts. People started saying it was recorded in 2018/16/17 bc of how Mel said that MM2 would be in the pov of other characters alot and the song seems to be in the pov of molly mcdolly (even tho im pretty sure shes not even real just a metaphor lmao) and people thought MM2 would be about Crybaby's town (which was never even true because since the beginning mel said it was gonna be about a SPECIFIC PLACE in CB's town but for some reason people never got the memo even tho she said it like a million times) and then when K-12 happened ppl switched it up to it being part of early MM2 where it was ab crybabys town even tho it was obviously gonna be about crybabys school since she hinted at it since the beginning But also I wanna say that supposing Unhappy Meal had been recorded after Cry Baby's release it wouldnt rlly have changed the fact that MM2 was always gonna be ab school. Its not impossible for Melanie to have worked on songs for K-12 that took place in the setting and story but didnt have school references in the title and lyrics, which would also be a possible reason for her having scrapped it. This happened alot with songs she made for CB. I mean Unhappy Meal couldve easily taken place at lunchtime in K-12. Maybe some characters in the movie get their lunch from Molly Mcdolly's Burger Shack.. A commercial playing on a tv in the cafeteria (kinda like Mrs Potato Heads starting scene), just Crybaby's (or whatever character the songs POV wouldve been in in the movie's) imagination. The song is obviously some sort of metaphor. Most likely about someone using someone in a relationship and playing with their feelings. It couldve been in K-12 in alot of ways. But bottom line is... it was a Cry Baby era outtake. Edited May 27, 2021 by untilsunrise didnt realize how long this was... sorry for the overanalysis/explanation 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsTied 256 Posted May 27, 2021 I honestly wish this fan base would stop referencing a fan wiki that anyone can edit as fact. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TayIor 225 Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, HandsTied said: I honestly wish this fan base would stop referencing a fan wiki that anyone can edit as fact. thats like saying wikipedia isnt reliable... yes it can be edited but everything needs receipts or itll be changed back 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoochieSwirlC 2,065 Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, noah TD said: thats like saying wikipedia isnt reliable... yes it can be edited but everything needs receipts or itll be changed back There was a lot of false information left there for the longest time and was never even changed until years later 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
untilsunrise 526 Posted May 27, 2021 just saw someone saying papercut was mels best unreleased and people replying in agreement... disturbing 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonofmoonshine 344 Posted May 27, 2021 31 minutes ago, Mermaid Hotel said: There was a lot of false information left there for the longest time and was never even changed until years later Like ... "According to Melanie, Beth Anne was the reason why nobody showed up to Cry Baby's party as their party was on the same day." No one has ever provided actual facts to that claim but people run with it till this day. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cool3dworld 2,367 Posted May 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, untilsunrise said: just saw someone saying papercut was mels best unreleased and people replying in agreement... disturbing Her best song released or not is Bombs on Monday Morning... x 3 Quote https://www.last.fm/user/cool3dworld Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voignamir 4,265 Posted May 27, 2021 can't get over how good coloring book is, her power also the fact that cry baby scraps eat up whole k12 + after school, truly a timeless album 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
